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Which pistol's light rails are compatible with others?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by akanotken, Apr 7, 2003.

  1. akanotken

    akanotken Member

    Jan 10, 2003

    After realizing that my p99 pistol has a "proprietary light rail" (double speak for "it won't fit anything else") I began to wonder how widespread this phenom is?

    I have a deal lined up on a streamlight M-6 unit. I'm hoping to get mounts for my AR,Saiga (I think it'd have to be a bbl mount), Remington. But my Walther will have to sit it out, or I'll have to break out the duct tape :( Should fit on the XD :)

    So, I'm wondering how many different kinds of light rails there are, and which pistols work in which?
  2. ajacobs

    ajacobs Active Member

    Dec 27, 2002
    VT, USA
    This is a whole weird thing. The point of the rail was standardization. In any case I believe sig and walther both had proprietary rails. Not all walthers or sigs have them I think walther is switching to them and sig is switching away from them. Glocks rails are different. And to top it all off surefires lights have to use the a special rail that they come with even on pistols that have rails like glocks.
  3. StressPuppy

    StressPuppy New Member

    Mar 17, 2003
    Richmond, VA
    Add my Steyr M9 to the guns with the proprietary rails and NO accessories. Makes one wonder why they were ever created!

    AKAnotKen, You know you just want more toys!! :p And you keep dragging me into it with you, so STOP IT! (No, no, don't throw me in that briar patch!) :evil:
  4. lunde

    lunde Member

    Jan 11, 2003
    San Jose, CA, USA, Earth
    The most universal accessory rails are clearly those based on the Picatinny 1913 Rail specification. See: http://www.biggerhammer.net/picatinny/

    The Glock accessory rail, found on their fullsize and compact models, is compatible. That of the Springfield Armory XD series is, too. The Sig P220ST now has a rail based on this specification, as do some standard P226s (called the P226R) and what seems to be all P226STs (except for the first batch).

    Sidearmor recently released a Picatinny 1913 Rail adapter for the HK P2000, and they have plans to make a similar adapter for the Walther P99 and Sig Pro. See: http://sidearmor.net/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/60/products_id/193

    J.P. Sauer & Son (Germany) introduced their own Picatinny 1913 Rail adapter at the 2003 IWA show. There is a rumor that the Sig Pro's frame will be redesigned later this year to replace its proprietary rail with a Picatinny 1913 one. (This sort of makes sense, if you follow what happened to the Sig P220ST.)
  5. Handy

    Handy Guest

    Boy, that Sidearmor adapter is nothing to write home about. It's as big as some of the lights!

    It's not surprising that there is little compatibility. It's not like scope mounts or holsters come in one-size-fits all. What I would like to see is a universal mag well.

    "What kind of mag do you need?"

    "9mm full size."

    "Here you go."
  6. akanotken

    akanotken Member

    Jan 10, 2003
    Good stuff guys

    Thanks for the help. Stressedkitty, err puppy. I'm collecting toys? Who ended up with a new knife, light AND hi caps in the last week? But neither of us can hold a light to Dr. Lunde, truly a nice collection.

    Thanks for chiming in Dr. I appreciate all you do to further education and oppurtunities (group purchases and all).

    In looking this up before I posted, seems the Firestar's have the same issue.

    I like the idea of a one size fits all mag (I'm guessing we might force grip angles to make this work). So, which mag should we build around? Beretta? High power? Maybe your onto something :)

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