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Which suppressor advice

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by TIMC, Sep 14, 2012.

  1. TIMC

    TIMC Well-Known Member

    I now have my trust completed and now it is time to move on to the buying part of my quest for suppressors. Looking to buy 3 suppressors and would like advice on which 3 would best fit my use in the parameters listed below.

    Parameters are:
    A. Good quality but would like to keep the price in the $700-$900 range.
    B. Needs to have ability to be taken apart and cleaned.
    C. Best noise reduction,
    D. Easiest to mount on different guns.

    1. .30 caliber, this will be used mainly on AR's.
    2. .556 also mainly used on AR's but also on bolt rifles and possibly a hand gun.
    3. .45 caliber, I have 2 rifles in .45 acp but mainly used on handguns.
  2. Zak Smith

    Zak Smith Moderator Staff Member

    I would strongly recommend against a take-apart centerfire rifle suppressor.

    For the .30 caliber suppressor, in that price range you are down a bit from the "best .30 cal suppressors on the market." However, the trade-off will most likely be a little more weight and maybe a little less suppression (depending on what model you choose).

    The next thing to decide on #1 and #2 is if you want direct thread attach (cheapest) or some sort of mount (need additional mounts per gun). The thread standard for .30 caliber is 5/8-24.

    For 5.56, the same question applies but the standard thread is 1/2-28.

    If the .45 caliber suppressor will be used on a tilt-barrel handgun, it will need to either use a linear decoupler (aka booster) or have one integral.

    hope this helps steer you in the right direction,
  3. BLAKEinTX

    BLAKEinTX Well-Known Member

    1) YHM 762Ti or Liberty Freedom QA or Victory, Thompson Machine Thirty

    2) YHM 556Ti, Liberty Torch Ti or Constitution, Huntertown Kestrel 556, Thompson Machine Sixteen

    3) Thompson Machine QMFII or Liberty Miranda

    A) cans range from 350-900 except Victory its like $1100 sorry but its a good can

    B) on centerfire calibers you really dont need to clean them because of the higher pressures at the muzzle and jacketed bullets, you will have to clean them out of carbon YHM says every 2500-3500rds and to use 2:1 solution of ATF and mineral spirits, if you plan on shooting 22LR and/or lead bullets get a take apart or dont shoot it through that can lol

    C) on centerfire rifle the normal reduction is 30-35dB but on SBRs and carbines itll be louder than a 24-26" bbl rifle, 45 is somewhat hard to suppress dry, unless its a large subgun volume or well engineered can, due to the large hole through the center

    D) QD is nice but can get expensive thread on does the same thing but is slower and thread adapters are about $35-55 and wont give you that tacticool look if youre goin for that

    what pistol you gonna put a 556 can on
  4. TIMC

    TIMC Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info guys!

    Ok since I am a total suppressor newb, please explain the reason for this?

    Not locked into the $700-$900 range but it would be nice, I will go higher for quality if needed.

    I have a Walther P-22 but to use a 556 can it would be pretty front heavy and I would not be able to see the sights, I don't know if I could get an adaptor for it. I am just trying to think how to cut down cost of extra suppressors but I don't really know if that will work out. I think it may just be easier to get a cheap can for the Walther.
  5. Zak Smith

    Zak Smith Moderator Staff Member

    There is no good reason to have it, and for the same weight/size, the take-apart one will be weaker and there is the possibility of additional problems due to clearances & tolerances.
  6. TIMC

    TIMC Well-Known Member

    Thanks, I'm learning slowly but surely!
  7. a-sheepdog

    a-sheepdog Well-Known Member

    For a 45 can, I would go with the AAC Ti-Rant. I know first hand that they are nice.
  8. mtrmn

    mtrmn Well-Known Member

    I have no first hand knowledge of the 45 suppressor, but I can handle the first 2 and save you some money/PITA.
    Get a YHM 7.62 Titanium and just buy adapters for every gun you intend to use it on--5.56 included. Between all the members of my family authorized to use my ONE YHM suppressor, we use it on 9 different AR's. 2 of them are 308's. It does a super job of suppressing 223 regardless of being over-bored. 223 is actually quieter than 308 when firing full-power loads. And subsonic sounds like a BB gun. The QD makes it easy to change from gun to gun, and there's no wear/tear on your actual barrel threads. Lightweight and tough. Adapters can be found on the net for about $60.
  9. Crash_Test_Dhimmi

    Crash_Test_Dhimmi Well-Known Member

    I've had farts louder than my 45 osprey...I don't know, maybe I should see a doctor?
  10. a-sheepdog

    a-sheepdog Well-Known Member

    Hey Crash Test, you may want to be careful what you eat. I have heard nothing but positive reviews about the Osprey and it is also built so that it does not block the front sight.
  11. RhinoDefense

    RhinoDefense Well-Known Member

    User serviceable suppressors are nice for the shooters that want to shoot cast bullets and use suppressors too. The muzzle pressure of cast bullet ammunition is much lower than jacketed bullet ammunition in rifles.
  12. RyeDaddy

    RyeDaddy Well-Known Member

    The fact that Zak said so is enough for me on most things suppressor related. He's perhaps too modest to mention Thunder Beast suppressors, but if precision is important to you I would highly recommend checking out the 30P-1 for a 30 cal rifle. Quiet, light and maintains accuracy of the rifle. Some users report their rifles are more accurate withtheir can installed than without. Give them a look, find a dealer that carries them and get a price quote. I've fired 308's with the 30P-1 and it's fantastic. Worth the price of admission. If your goal for a 308 can is too use it in rapid fire drills till the barrel glows there are better choices than titanium suppressors but the weight savings is worth the trade off in price.

    If the Thunder Beast is out of your price range you should give the SAS Arbiter a look. Stainless steel and titanium versions are available, very quiet and accurate with multiple mounting options.
  13. TIMC

    TIMC Well-Known Member

    Thunderbeast is not out of my price range, I'm seriously considering it. Money is realy not the object I just don't want to spend what I don't have to.

    Right now it is looking like the thunderbeast for the .30 cal.
    Osprey for the .45
    Still up in the air for the .556 can and still looking for suggestions.

    NFA trust was cleared by my banks legal department so all is finished and the bank account for the trust is loaded up and ready to start spending.
  14. pmj341

    pmj341 Member

    I've noticed no one has mentioned Gemtech
    Can somebody that has one please voice your opinions.
  15. Captains1911

    Captains1911 Well-Known Member

    Because there are better options out there for the money. For the record, I own an OBII.
  16. Captains1911

    Captains1911 Well-Known Member

    You should really consider a Rimfire suppressor, especially if you plan to own multiple cans. Most people start with a rimfire can, and enjoy them the most as they are by far the quietest. Also, for the people recomending YHM Ti cans, just understand that they are currently running about 6 months behind on orders, so unless your dealer already has one in stock, expect a loooong wait prior to the Form 4 wait.
  17. pmj341

    pmj341 Member

    I live in a small town, Gunshops are hard to find.
    So our choices are somewhat limited.
  18. GoingQuiet

    GoingQuiet Well-Known Member

    GT does a fine job, I sell a lot of their product. However other manufacturers are offering features that GT products do not have.

    They do great work though!

    What does small town have to do with anything? Any FFL/SOT in the state can do a transaction by mail.
  19. pmj341

    pmj341 Member

    I guess I want to see and touch what I'm buying
    Once I find what I want then I can order it.
  20. Derek Zeanah

    Derek Zeanah System Administrator Staff Member

    I've watched some excellent shooters score first-round hits on targets more than 1 kilometer distant with Thunderbeast suppressors. That's the way I'm going once I get up off my butt and get up a checking account for my trust...

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