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Who's seen or had a broken Mossberg 500?

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by Tropical Z, Oct 5, 2006.

  1. Tropical Z

    Tropical Z Well-Known Member

    Frequently,you hear on the web that the 500 is vastly inferior to a Remington 870 and your'e crazy to get the first over the latter.I've read in the past that a 500 can be purposely "broken" by fast stroking it (terminology :confused: ) and that this is the 500's achilles heal.What do you really think? Is a 500 a perfectly capable shotgun that can be used for a long time if taken reasonably good care of?
  2. Fred Fuller

    Fred Fuller Moderator Emeritus

    One should be careful not to pay too much attention to the Errornet.

    I have a couple of Mossberg 500s, have had for years now. They don't get used a lot simply because I prefer other makes/models, not because there is anything desperately wrong with either the design or Mossberg's execution of it. The plastic safety buttons tend to break, but there is a metal replacement. My perennial complaint with the Model 500 design is that the only way to clean out the magazine is to remove the magazine tube from the receiver- NOT a good plan IMO, since many problems with tubular magazine shotguns arise in the magazine itself. Note that Mossberg's decision to compete for a military contract with the Model 590 produced a change in this design to one offering through-and-through magazine tube access. I prefer that by far to the design of the 500.

    Still, the 500 is serviceable- IN THE HANDS OF A CAPABLE OPERATOR. It is the shooter who matters far more than the gun. Worry more about getting good at shooting a shotgun- any shotgun- and less about what's "the best" shotgun, and you will be far better off!

  3. rustymaggot

    rustymaggot Well-Known Member

    worst broken part ive seen on a mossberg 500 was a cracked trigger assembly due to the buttstock getting twisted and breaking the plastic of the trigger assembly. trigger assembly was still operable but was more dificult to reinstall after cleaning.

    it is quite possible the remington 870 is a better gun, but i just dont see it. mossbergs are reliable and durable. so are the remingtons. i see them as equals. only deciding factor for me is the location of the slide release. i prefer the mossberg for that reason alone.
  4. ribbonstone

    ribbonstone Well-Known Member

    Bought two over the years that were "broken". Both had been damaged by accident rather than wear and both were put back into service. From the look on the inside, neither had been cleaned for years.

    Think a lot of this is just net-crap, has no real basis, isn't from experience.
  5. Dave McCracken

    Dave McCracken Moderator In Memoriam

    Had a very used 500 with short barrel. I picked up for $65,IIRC.Old security beater. Had it for a year or so, No probs, and I used it hard. Sold it for a profit because I didn't like changing my chops.

    870s are great shotguns. Mossberg 500s are very good shotguns....
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2006
  6. dfaugh

    dfaugh Well-Known Member

    Having owned nothing BUT Mossberg 500 variants for 35 years of shooting, personally I would say they are certainly not overly prone to breakage. Some of mine were used alot, and used HARD (in the field) for many years, and I never had a problem with any of them. I cleaned 'em but NEVER completely stripped them down. One in particular (my 1st, a 20 gauge field gun, bought used, which I also practiced shooting clays (informal trap) with almost every weekend--at least 100 rounds), was also carryied around, dropped from trees (deer hunting) fell in the mud...Whatever. Never a malfunction if you kept it reasonable clean (well, never a malfunction as I DID keep it reasonably clean).

    Anyway, While I've never owned anything but Mossbergs, I've shot Remingtons and Winchesters, and know many people that have for years. And I would say theres essentially no real difference, from a quality/reliability standpoint, with any of them.
  7. Third_Rail

    Third_Rail Well-Known Member

    I bought a very well used pre-68 M500; it had a broken firing pin. It was replaced (with a new bolt, since the guy that sold it to me couldn't get the pin out of the bolt) and that was that.
  8. foghornl

    foghornl Well-Known Member

    While I like the great looks of a Classic Rem 870 Wingmaster, I prefer the Mossberg 500/Maverick 88 for my serious shotgun work.

    My only 'knock' on the Mossberg500's /Maverick 88's is that you need to unscrew the mag tube off the receiver to clean it out. . . . Like I had to once, after my Maverick & I got 'dunked in the drink' Never mind.. a long story about nothing, other than "Oh, yeah, right about there, the creek drops off to 6 feet deep."

    An even smaller caveat is the that the "M&M" shotguns use a very small 'skeleton' cartridge elevator, so don't even try to use those tiny Aguilla (brand??) mini-shells. They will fall through the loading port. Confirmed this for myself.
  9. Zero_DgZ

    Zero_DgZ Well-Known Member

    How does the 590 have a "through-and-through" magazine design?

    When I take the cap off of mine there's a plug in there that retains the spring and follower. To get the plug out I need to unscrew the mag tube anyway to take out the spring, get a dowel in there, and smack the plug out...
  10. foghornl

    foghornl Well-Known Member

    The 590 is supposed to be able to have the end pulled out by working it a bit at a time with a small screwdriver/pry bar. That way, the mag tube stays on the receiver, but it can be cleaned.

    I don't have a 590/835 model, so I can't say for sure.
  11. 9mmMike

    9mmMike Well-Known Member

    Not sure it this qualifies as "broken" but I used to shoot with a guy who had a 500 that dumped shells on the ground all the time. It took a ton-o-patience to shoot clays with this guy and you can imagine how popular he was with the grumpy snob types.
    He now shoots an 1187 with a LC barrel. He (and everyone else on the field) is much happier.
  12. MCgunner

    MCgunner Well-Known Member

    I had an old Mossberg single action bar from the fifties or sixties sold as the "model 310 Revelation" through Western Auto. It had been used many, many seasons and the extractors were a little worn. Occasionally it had a failure to extract a case cleanly and I'd have to clear it. It'd been easy enough to fix, but I wanted a new camo one anyway, so I bought a new Mossy and sold that one cheap. I've used my "new one" now for about 15 waterfowl seasons. This thing has "seen the elephant" as they say. It's been through heck and is still workin' fine. Mossys are rugged and reliable and affordable, perfect for a waterfowl gun. It's killed many a duck and goose over those 15 years and has many more to dispatch.

    I prefer the Mossberg for a couple of reasons to the 870 for the purpose of waterfowl hunting. When I was a kid, I had an 870 Wingmaster. I did NOT like that loading gate/elevator blocking the magazine when loading. On a cold morning, that thing would pinch my cold numbed thumb and hurt like heck! If you didn't get the shell ALL the way in until the magazine clicked, it'd slide back under that gate and jam the gun. You had to get out a pocket knife and get it back into the magazine. It was a PITA. Also, I shoot left handed and really prefer the tang safety on the Mossberg. I'd LOVE a Browning BPS, but I don't want an expensive shotgun out in the salt marsh and, after all, the Mossberg has proven to work just fine.
  13. pete f

    pete f Well-Known Member

    I used to work at a gun shop that had a real gunsmith, a guy who could make you parts if no one had any. He taught me some about fixing guns and one of the first things I worked on was having to reattach action bars to the ring that the forearm would attach to. I bet I fixed 20 or more in the first year. They are spot welded and they seemed have issues, we also had several that came in with cracked stocks at the top of the end of the receiver where it attached. We had some spares and that was before the synthetic stocks were available. We had a few, less than ten, that had the trigger return spring get soft so they would not reset without help.
  14. Zeke Menuar

    Zeke Menuar Well-Known Member

    I inherited a Mossberg 500 aka Western Field 550A

    The safety switch on top of the reciever was missing. Call to Brownells for a metal replacement. Zillions of rounds later, no issues.

    No clue when this gun was made.

  15. Wannagohunting

    Wannagohunting Active Member

    I owned an 870 Express once. I currently own 3 Mossberg 500's.
    If you were to give me a choice I would take the Mossberg everytime.
  16. dfariswheel

    dfariswheel Well-Known Member

    The most common failures of the Mossberg 500 are:
    Broken safeties are fairly common.
    The plastic just doesn't seem to hold up well.

    Broken action bar welds.
    Not real common, but does happen.

    Shell stop problems.
    The Mossberg seems to have a problem with either double feeds into the receiver, or more common, a shell in the magazine being ejected out onto the ground.

    I saw a few cracks in plastic trigger groups that did not effect function and continued to be used for years with no problems.

    I saw a few cracked stocks in the area where the stock joins the receiver.
    Again, this didn't effect function, and the guns continued to be used.
  17. Thin Black Line

    Thin Black Line Well-Known Member

    When I was in Iraq with my M500 and would travel from FOB to FOB, I would
    meet up with other M500 carrying soldiers prior to convoys, standing in line
    for something, etc and no one had ever seen or heard of a problem
    with the M500s. Most of us had "stay-behind" M500s inherited from earlier
    units --most from the beginning in 03. By the time I left theater, mine
    had been there at least two years before we handed it off to an MP unit.

    Only thing to watch for if you're clearing more than firing is not to keep
    using the same shell over and over. And, that's more of a "just in case"
    so you don't wear the rim. But, again, never heard of a problem with
    that either. I just didn't want to be the first to find out!

    I have a 590 at home and have used it for deer hunting.
  18. Thin Black Line

    Thin Black Line Well-Known Member

    When? After an IED blows up under it?
  19. SIRVEYR666

    SIRVEYR666 Well-Known Member

    I've a 500. My father and brother, as well. Great guns for the money. They're sort of a family tradition. They kill rabbits just as dead as guns costing 4 times as much.:D We've never had any problems with them.
  20. rudolf

    rudolf Well-Known Member

    A friend of mine had a broken pin in the trigger assembly. It still shot, but it somehow felt wrong so we stripped it and saw the problem.

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