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Why is there an ammo shortage?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by radiotom, Jan 4, 2013.

  1. radiotom

    radiotom Well-Known Member

    If people pay for $100 pmags at CTD when they are less than half that price on gunbroker then they deserve to be parted with their money. That is how capitalism works.
  2. Warp

    Warp Well-Known Member

    Bunbroker prices vary. They have been near/at $100 at times.

    But, yes...capitalism/free market
  3. DJW

    DJW Well-Known Member

    Fortunately the federal government has plenty of hollow point ammo with which to attack the public while forcibly taking our firearms. The national socialist party is alive and well in America. Good luck comrades.
  4. Warp

    Warp Well-Known Member

    I don't think they actually have all that much. When you do the math on how many enforcement officers they have, how much ammo is used for training, how many rounds it takes to qualify, how often they probably or do qualify...somebody did the match on another forum and it put things into perspective.
  5. Batty67

    Batty67 Well-Known Member

    Even if internet sale bans go nowhere, ticked off Dems and anti 2nd amendment folks could push for massive tax increases on ammo. That and given ammo prices, like pretty much everything, only go up over time and might take a LONG time to come down, and will likely never go back to pre-Newtown massacre prices, folks are trying to buy whatever they can. And they are willing to pay (sometimes much) more than they would have mid-December, because they fear paying 50% more for ammo now is a lot better than paying 100% more a few months down the line.

    I have to admit, I'm buying a lot of ammo (45, 9mm, and 22LR) when I can find it for close (up to 25% more or) to pre-2013 prices. My logic is: if I buy $1k in ammo in a year, why not up to to 1.5k and get it all now or in the near future? Worst case: I keep it for many years, or I can always sell it, likely for a profit. But that said, I refuse to buy it for crazy prices, but the price of crazy keeps going up...

    At the rate I shoot, I have about a 1 year supply of 45acp, 2 years of 9mm and 30 carbine, and 3 years of 22LR.
  6. Patrice

    Patrice member

    Hhmmm....Why is there an ammo shortage?

    Why are some folks attributing the ammunition shortage to private citizens buying/hoarding ammunition? Supply & demand determines price, suffice to say. One is a capitalist & believes in a free-market or not. I'm not certain that anything else need be said about the prices of any goods/

    Citizens hoarding ammunition and causing a retail shortage....I don't think so. In the past year agencies/departments of the Federal government purchased over 1.5 billion rounds of ammunition in various flavors, and this over-&-above their usual purchase amounts. Homeland Security, the EPA, and even the Social Security Administration were among the many Federal agencies & departments that purchased ammunition far in excess of their usual needs.

    Your guess is as good as mine why the Federal government would be stockpiling to such a degree. Some nation states' standing military don't buy-up/hoard ammunition in such quantities.

    I'm thinking it's a serious error in judgement to blame one's neighbor for the ammunition shortage, much less the price of ammunition.--Patrice

    351 WINCHESTER Well-Known Member

    The Feds have pleanty of ammo. Back in the 70's 80's and 90's Customs used to take their excess ammo (what was left after they pilfered (stole) what they wanted) by the carload to the local dump where it was "destroyed". This was in a medium size port and much of that time only the special agents were armed. The inspectors were issued revolvers in the mid 80's, but the agents had the ammo, and qualified with wadcutters and saved the hollow points for the bad guys.
  8. Blueduck

    Blueduck Well-Known Member

    At least some of those stories are overblown. When people heard of the big homeland security order they imagine black trucks backing up to factories and driving off in the night with 1.5 billion rounds of ammo.

    If you look over it closely the order is for over for 5 years, (12 months for phase one only) and the 1.5 Billion figure is just a MAXIMUM (a minimum of 1,000 rounds to awardees). In certain government contracts they tend to put huge numbers down in this area just in case other agencies ever need to piggy back on the contracts. For example when the Parole agency I worked for went to Glock 40's, they did not go create a new ammo contract, but simply piggy backed on the Highway Patrol Contract. That was 100,000 rounds they did not expect to order, but because they had written in huge possible numbers, it was no problem ans saved money for everyone.

    What you are seeing no doubt is some panic buying by large and small agencies, affraid that qualifications scheduals could be disrupted by supply shortages, which is kind of a big deal to them of course. They panic buy, so we panic buy, so they panic buy.... geez I'm gonna take up golf for 18 months :banghead:
  9. majortoo

    majortoo Well-Known Member

    Local WalMart here in Virginia still had some ammo in stock at reasonable prices; (45 ACP 230 gr. FMJ for under $21 for 50 rounds, Federal or Remington). Limit of three boxes per day to hold down the hoarders.... Fancy JHP was a lot more expensive....

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