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Why Solid Democrat Gun Owners Should Vote For Someone Else

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Bartholomew Roberts, Apr 21, 2004.

  1. Bartholomew Roberts

    Bartholomew Roberts Moderator Emeritus

    For some time now, the Democratic party has been putting out news articles about how they are "moderate" on guns and how they are changing their platform.

    There have even been strong voices in the Democratic party arguing that supporting gun control legislation has continually cost the Democrats at the polls.

    The Democrats ARE starting to come around on this issue, albeit with such glacial speed that firearms are likely to be obsolete before they complete their policy change. For example, in 2000 the debate within the Democratic party was over how much firearms registration we should have and whether handguns could be banned entirely. In 2004, Democrats had learned to at least keep their mouth shut on the issue.

    However, the Democrats still have one big flaw. They think that if they pay lip service to the Second Amendment, they won't need to follow through on action. They think so little of gun owners that their Presidential nominee skipped hundreds of votes to avoid offending any small interest group during his primary; but took Super Tuesday off to come to Washington and vote for more gun control.

    During this vote, he voted in support of a ban on centerfire rifle ammo, a ban of semi-auto rifles, background checks for private sales, gutting lawsuit preemption for gun manufacturers, and a host of other issues. This same candidate claims to "support the Second Amendment as it has been interpreted in our country" (for those who miss his "nuanced" views of things, he is saying he supports a collective rights interpretation of the Second Amendment)

    The Democratic Presidential nominee had his picture taken with Feinstein, Schumer, and Kennedy following the defeat of S.1805 - the pro-gun bill he helped defeat on Super Tuesday. This nominee was proud to come out during the primary and attack Howard Dean for even suggesting that the Dems firearms policy stance was out of tune with America. He is proud to stand with the troika of gun control. He is proud to vote for a ban on centerfire rifle ammunition DURING AN ELECTION YEAR.

    A Kerry win in 2004 will completely erase whatever small gains the pro-gun faction in the Democratic party has made over the past four years and convince the Democrats that they can continue to carry out whatever actions they want.

    Let's put it this way - it took the Democrats losing practically every gun rights related vote from 1994-2000 to get even the tiny changes in platform we see today. If Kerry, who took an unabashedly pro-gun control stance and is rated 100% by the Brady Campaign over the past 20 years, gets elected it will be seen as proof that the gun vote is useless to the Dems.

    Gun owners who support the Democratic party and want to see it respect gun rights owe it to themselves to show some tough love and vote for someone else this election.
  2. N3rday

    N3rday Well-Known Member

  3. Boats

    Boats member

    One small correction: The pictures of the "Four Horsemen of the 2A apocalypse" were taken after the successful AWB vote, not the final defeat of the bill. That later picture would have been one of bewilderment about what had happened to their grand strategy to pass the AWB in exchange for manufacturer immunity as reflected in the quote in my signature.
  4. Nightfall

    Nightfall Well-Known Member

    We may disagree back and forth on voting Bush or not voting Bush, but even the mildest of RKBA advocates can agree that Kerry doesn't even come close to being the right choice.
  5. jnojr

    jnojr Well-Known Member

    All the Democrats have to do is assuage their union constituents. The hundreds of thousands of unionized steelworkers, autoworkers, etc. vote Democratic to protect their unions... these people have guaranteed-secure lives, and are willing to trade a lot for that security. If the Democratic candidate at least makes the right mough noises about letting them keep their deer rifles and duck guns, they're fine. Even if said candidate never actually delivers... between a choice of never having to worry about living in a gutter and the ability to hunt deer once a year, the choice is clear.
  6. moa

    moa Well-Known Member

    Just how does the Democratic Party protect the unions and their members anyway? I am not clear at all on this.
  7. thefitzvh

    thefitzvh Well-Known Member

    the Dem party keeps socialism alive, a prerequisite for a successful union

  8. Mulliga

    Mulliga Well-Known Member

    Meh...when did Democrats start becoming so obsessed with gun control? Didn't JFK have a lifetime NRA membership? Why is this even an issue?

  9. Shooter 2.5

    Shooter 2.5 Well-Known Member

    They became the anti-gun dem party when the 1968 gun law was passed. That led to the handgun bans during the 1970's.
    The war cry from the dems was no one needed a Saturday Night Special and the import ban was created. Fortunately, the Republican Party discovered CCW laws. Suddenly, a small handgun had a use.
    Since it was still so hard for the gangbangers to buy a .25 auto in most cities, they moved up to rifles. That led to the drive-by's.
    Now we have the Assault Weapons ban which hopefully will be sunsetted by the Republican Congress.

    Lesson learned, get rid of the dems and get rid of gun control.

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