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WINCESTER 1895 in 30-03

Discussion in 'Firearms Research' started by Eric H, Jul 18, 2011.

  1. Eric H

    Eric H New Member

    Apr 7, 2011
    Hi guys. long time lurker, great forum.

    so my uncle picked up a winchester 1895 in the 30-03 chambering. I have one in the 30-40. not to familar with the 30-03 cartridge. Is it the same as a 303 Brit. SER # 83792 I did some looking on line. but that is never as fun as hearing what you guys have to say. Im just glad I actualy have something to post.

    He picked it up at a yard sale. I havnt found out what he paid or any picts. or I would post them. All my dad told me was what the rifle had writin on it.

    any Info would be greatly appreciated thanks, Eric
  2. SDC

    SDC Senior Member

    Jan 8, 2003
    People's Republic of Canada
    The 30-03 was the immediate pre-cursor to the 30-06, and it's probably not interchangeable with any other available cartridge. You might be able to reload for it using 30-06 brass and a set of forming/reloading dies, but this is an oddball in any event. The rifle might be worth more as a collectible than as a shooter anyway.
  3. Chuck Dye

    Chuck Dye Active Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    Oregon-The wet side.
    The .30-03 became the .30-06 with a bullet weight and powder change and shortening the cartridge neck .007". It is my understanding that, as the dimensional change was only in the length of the neck, the .30-06 works fine in a .30-03 with the same caveat that goes with shooting .38spl in .357mag, .44spl in .44mag, etc.: you may want to keep an eye on the crud ring that forms when shooting shorter rounds in longer chambers. Should you ever acquire or make full spec .30-03 ammo, be extremely careful not to try to shoot it in a .30-06 rifle!

    Edit to add: There are apparently some accuracy issues with shooting .30-06 ammunition in .30-03 rifles, enough so that the government modified almost all of its .30-03 rifles to .30-06.
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2011
  4. natman

    natman Senior Member

    Feb 11, 2007
  5. Jim K

    Jim K Elder

    Dec 31, 2002
    .30-'03 was a pretty common caliber in the 1895 and in fact they made them in that caliber up into the mid-1920's. Some people swore that the .30'-'03, with its round nose 220-grain bullet, was superior to the .30-'06 which, with its "pointy" bullet, was supposed to be easily deflected by brush. (The .30-'06 was made with the heavy bullet for those folks, but some chose to ignore it and believed the .30-'03 and Krag were better.)

    The .30-'06 can be safely fired in a .30-'03 chamber, but I would stick to factory or equivalent handloads in that Winchester, and not "hot rod" it.

  6. 1KPerDay

    1KPerDay Elder

    Jan 19, 2006
    Happy Valley, UT
    Very cool rifle, post a pic if you can. :cool:
  7. Jim Watson

    Jim Watson Senior Elder

    Dec 24, 2002
    Ken Waters recommended holding .30-06 loads for an 1895 down about two grains of powder less than what you would put in a bolt action. I would apply the same to .30-06 being shot in a .30-03.

    You could use .270 brass necked up to load for .30-03. It is .046" longer than .30-06 and would take up most of the difference in neck length. Some people say from this that .270 was based on .30-03 instead of .30-06 because of that difference. But do be careful if you have .270 and .30-06 rifles around the house.

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