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Winchester .22 magazine tube ID

Discussion in 'Firearms Research' started by biggyfries, Mar 2, 2013.

  1. biggyfries

    biggyfries Active Member

    I have aquired a bunch of gun stuff from a relative who passed away and I am trying to identify a magazine tube, apparently from a Winchester, I'm guessing its a M-1906 because I have a couple of other parts for the same model. Here's the question: the follower doesn't protrude out of the end of the tube but an 1/8" or so. All others I have seen protrude a half an inch or more. Could this be for a .22 short gun only? Or BB-cap only? Gallery gun only?
    The tube is brass and measures 19 7/8ths, not including the knurled steel knob.
    If anyone can ID this mag tube I'd appreciate it. If someone can refer me to an expert who might have the answer I'd appreciate that too.

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  2. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

    Except for the knurled steel cap?
    It doesn't look at all Winchesterish to me.

    An 1890/06 tube is 17.5" from the bottom of the cap to the end of the tube.
    18 1/8" OAL + about a .412" steel follower protrusion.
    Or about 18 1/2" OAL.
    It measures .358" - .360 Dia.

    I have never seen a brass factory tube in an 1890 or 06, or 62, or 62A in 50 years of messing with them.

    If it is for a Winchester Pump?
    Somebody repaired it with a brass tube and a different follower at some point.
    Or crimped the end so tight the factory follower can't get out!

    In which case, it is screaming:
    Help me!
    HELP ME!

    It would not matter whether it was a .22 LR, .22 Long, .22 Short, or anything else.
    The follower is not long enough to push the last round through the receiver fully into the lifter and the rifle would jam on the last round.

    Last edited: Mar 2, 2013
  3. Jim K

    Jim K Well-Known Member

    Even if it were working properly, I doubt anyone could tell which gun it came from as all of those magazine tubes, inner and outer, look pretty much alike. If one had hundreds of guns to try, maybe it could be identified, but as it is, I think the tube will just be another of those unidentifiable parts we see so often.

  4. Sav .250

    Sav .250 Well-Known Member

    Could it be the plastic tip on the receiver end of the tube is missing? As you said, it won`t push the last round in far enough for the loading process
    to happen.
  5. biggyfries

    biggyfries Active Member

    I can address one thing: I peered down the end near the tip of the follower. it is just an extremely short follower--it looks just like those on elderly .22's, its steel, I doubt it ever had a plastic part on it. Other followers are around 5/8's to as long as an inch. This one is just very short, but it fits in the end of the brass tube perfectly.

    I'm scratching my head over this.
  6. biggyfries

    biggyfries Active Member

    If this tube is not a Winchester part what would it be? Stevens? Rem? JC Higgins?
  7. StrawHat

    StrawHat Well-Known Member

    Add Marlin to the list of possibilities.
  8. 788Ham

    788Ham Well-Known Member

    By chance, put some Kroil down the end of it, maybe its stuck over time with gunk, might free it up. With Kroil down the end, see if you can manipulate it a little, see if it can be freed. Does it have a spring inside of the brass tube? Worth a try!
  9. dagger dog

    dagger dog Well-Known Member

    I checked my 1929 Remington Mdl.12 22 pump rifle, it's not like the one you show, and my Revelation ,(Marlin 60), has a plastic follower.
  10. biggyfries

    biggyfries Active Member

    I have used solvent in the tube, it is clean for certain, and I used a dental pick (carefully), and I am convinced the follower is extending fully to the end of the crimp in the tube. Its just very very short. It moves easily and freely.
    Thanks for the suggestions, any others are welcome.

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