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Winchester White Box VS Remington UMC

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by tntwatt, Apr 28, 2008.


Winchester White Box VS Remington UMC which is generally better?

  1. Winchester White Box

    103 vote(s)
  2. Remington UMC

    55 vote(s)
  1. tntwatt

    tntwatt Well-Known Member

  2. Atla

    Atla Well-Known Member

    Oh no I started this didn't I from the Walmart thread.

    Remington UMC is more -consistant-.

    Try taking winchester white box, any caliber, and sending them through a chrono and you'll see what I mean. ;)
  3. Winchester 73

    Winchester 73 member

  4. tntwatt

    tntwatt Well-Known Member

    Atla, yep.

    The WWB is slightly cheaper at wolly world but they almost never have .45 UMC in stock.
  5. Atla

    Atla Well-Known Member

    I should add that I also think Winchester White Box is more 'sketch'.

    I've heard and seen a lot of deformed rounds in WWB lately. Also heard of some Squibs and even some KaBoom's. (stands to figure guys, if the powder load is very low in some rounds - it is very high in others)

    I don't really like shooting it anymore.

    WSM MAGNUM Well-Known Member

    If I`m going to buy either one for just target shooting at the range, it makes no difference to me. I`ll buy whatever is cheaper. Inconsistant or not, makes no difference for just plinking or target shooting.
  7. Mike J

    Mike J Well-Known Member

    Didn't vote because I usually use Blazer Brass for target. I believe it is cheaper than either of your choices & the only thing my Ruger P-944 has ever failed to eject with was UMC.
  8. tntwatt

    tntwatt Well-Known Member

    mike j, haven't tried blazer brass. where do you normally buy?
  9. Lupinus

    Lupinus Well-Known Member

    wally world sells blazer brass. Good price and good stuff
  10. Ala Dan

    Ala Dan Member in memoriam

    Good Stuff

    dirty as all get out, but does the job! ;)
  11. Big Daddy K

    Big Daddy K Well-Known Member

    Have ya noticed that UMC 9 hps dont open up in wet newspaper?

    Then again I shot a couple of my friends high dollar ? hps and they didnt open either.

    WWB is 4 bucks cheaper per 100 but the UMCs look cooler.
  12. Winchester 73

    Winchester 73 member

    Still an excellent idea after 144 years

    OMGWTFBBQ Well-Known Member

    I've heard good things about Aguila's ammo, but I haven't tried any of their center fire ammo myself. CCI Blazer Brass is good stuff, Dirty, but more consistent than WWB, and my Sub 2000 likes it better than UMC. Out of a 100 of each, UMC gave me 2 FTEs, WWB had a squib and a couple rounds that sounded and felt a little light, CCI worked as well as I expected it to(relatively consistent, and reliable).
  14. retgarr

    retgarr Well-Known Member

    Hm, I dunno about aguila center fire, but I know that their .22lr smells like cat piss and isn't always liked by semi auto pistols.
    And blazer brass produces consistent pressure according to feel, but it sure makes my cz dirty, not the easiest gun to clean either. Although it will eat anything.
  15. UMC brass seems to be of a higher quality seems to me to be much better for reloading. Anyone else noticed it?

    -Sans Authoritas
  16. Auburn1992

    Auburn1992 Well-Known Member

    Just wondering, how does it look cooler?
  17. XD Fan

    XD Fan Well-Known Member

    I use the CCI Blazer Brass as it saves me a couple of bucks a box. I have only had one hiccup in several thousand rounds. But I do prefer UMC to WWB.
  18. peacenik

    peacenik Active Member

    glah glah

    I get better accuracy with the Remington. I have no idea why.
  19. 3 gun

    3 gun Well-Known Member

    Can't tell the difference between the two. I've used thousands of both. Both make the same power factor (129-131) when used for USPSA matches. I buy whatever is cheapest. WWB seems just a little cleaner shooting.
  20. Patrick Henry

    Patrick Henry Well-Known Member

    I think Remington has underloaded ammo, at least in the calibers I shoot, 9mm and .38 spl.

    No Remington 9mm comes even close to 115gr WWB. I've never had any failure in hundreds of rounds of the latter. Shot to shot it feels consistent to me.

    Judging from the holes in the paper, Remington 158gr LRN .38 special is tumbling through the air, at least from a 2-inch barrel. I wish somebody would chrono some of that, I bet it's going slow as hell. (even for .38) Don't seem to have that problem with their 130gr MC.

    Another issue with Remington is their primer caps are very hard. My friend's PPK would put a nice dent in the primer with no ignition. 2nd strike the round would fire if you manually cocked the hammer. He said other brands weren't a problem.

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