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With reluctance and an apology, I'm getting on the "stop the madness" bandwagon...

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Liberty1776, Jan 29, 2013.

  1. tarosean

    tarosean Well-Known Member

    ^ yeah I cannot tell you how many outright lies I've seen looking at the ads for guns and magazines...

    With that said thou..

    This little beauty could be yours for the low asking price..


  2. AlexanderA

    AlexanderA Well-Known Member

    This is exactly how I felt after the 1986 Hughes Amendment, when prices of machine guns started to rise to insane levels. Well, after all these years, the prices are many times more insane.

    If the current legislative attacks go nowhere, prices of AR's, AK's, etc., will fall back some, but not to the pre-Newtown levels. The masks of the antigunners are off, and it will be a long-term, ongoing struggle to keep these guns legal. Prices are going to be reflected in this. I say if you want one, buy at the first sign of a small dip in prices.

    I bought my first AR-15, new, in 1968, for less than $200. Times change.
  3. TIMC

    TIMC Well-Known Member

    They should; if it makes you feel better to know, I just got my Pmag order in from Midwayusa with no markup in price.
  4. Atbat82

    Atbat82 Well-Known Member

    In 2012 dollars that works out to a hair over $1,300. Don't forget to account for inflation.

    Granted you've also had 40+ years of fun with that AR. Can't put a price on that.

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  5. PGT

    PGT Well-Known Member

    I put three guns and their ammo and accessories up in two listings on GB and started them at 1/3 of what the final auction value was. I had the pleasure of owning them and shooting them for 3-4yrs and was able to "cash out". The buyers are very happy to have been able to buy them and they dictated the price paid.

    I'll buy them again if/when prices are back to "normal". In the meantime, the new owners are happy and I'm happy to have cash in hand. :)
  6. tarosean

    tarosean Well-Known Member

    Key word there.. A limited supply that dwindles as time passes will of course commend top dollar..
    Yet we don't actually have a federal ban on AR's or magazines... Nothing more than speculation, pandemonium and greed working together.
  7. jwh336

    jwh336 Active Member

    This is good for the economy, also think of all the tax dollars the state is getting. I wonder what they'll blow it on... LOL
  8. CoRoMo

    CoRoMo Well-Known Member

    Apology to whom? For what?
  9. RetiredUSNChief

    RetiredUSNChief Well-Known Member

    The buying mentality on an online auction site isn't soemthing that's necessarily described as "sane" sometimes.

    People tend to get caught up in the heat of the auction and even outbidding themselves, paying more than they intended. It's similar to gambling in that respect...people can get caught up in the action.

    I was attempting to bid on a Marlin 783 bolt action .22 WMR to replace the very first rifle I bought when I was 18. (Mine was stolen a number of years ago.)

    Marlin makes the modern equivalent (XT-22MTW), but it has a new trigger type that I'm not yet certain I want. The Pro-Fire Trigger has a built in safety that has me giving it the evil eye.

    For a Marlin 783 in excellent condition, I would be willing to pay a bit more money than for a new version, just for the sake of having the 783 again. I found one in said condition starting for about $250, figured I bid a while and see what happened.

    The price soon soared over $500. WAY in excess of what I was willing to spend.

    I love that particular gun, especially for the sentimental value. However, realistically speaking, paying more than half a grand for a rifle I can easily buy two of brand new kinda puts the kibosh on the sentimental value for me.

    Now, had this been at a gun show or a private deal person-to-person, I'm sure I could have gotten a better price because there wouldn't be any bidding to get caught up in.

    Perhaps I'm wrong...but whenever you buy something via online auction, I don't believe you're necessarily going to get something as what the regular market would do for you. This means you have to be more careful not to get caught up in the heat yourself and to practice some patience.

  10. Liberty1776

    Liberty1776 Well-Known Member

    CoRoMo - for the crap I've given others for expressing the same thing. Except I still feel it's crazy on the buyer's part, and just good sense on the seller's. If someone offers you three times what something is worth, more power to you, but I just think it's plumb crazy to pay this much for stuff that three months ago was so much cheaper...
  11. NMPOPS

    NMPOPS Well-Known Member

    Gotta agree prices are out of this world. I have enough guns for now and refuse to pay those kind of prices. As I need to reload and must buy supplies, I will pay the price necessary for that but nothing more for now.
  12. blkbrd666

    blkbrd666 Well-Known Member

    There's several AR's out there over $2000.00 and getting bids. Even an LE6920 that just sold for $2200.00. My buddy bought a new LE6920 in Dec for just over $900.00.

    I was going to make a joke about really wanting to hang on to my Colt but jumping on the bandwagon as soon as they hit $5000.00. That may not even qualify as a joke in 30 days.
  13. karlsgunbunker

    karlsgunbunker Well-Known Member

    I believe the high prices have helped increase the supply of firearms available.
    Lots of guns are being pulled out of the back of the safe or closet and hitting the open market.
    I know I sold my fair share and then used the proceeds to buy more guns.

    Personally, I don't need to buy any guns or ammo because I've been putting both away for years.

    IMHO The Unprepared deserve to pay a premium, why didn't they buy one 4 years ago when they elected a commie gun grabber.
  14. threefeathers

    threefeathers Well-Known Member

    I agree with this. I have plenty of guns, ammo, and reloading equipment so I can still be picky but if I decide to sell it will be at a profit. :cool:
  15. BP44

    BP44 Well-Known Member

    At least the there are uppers to sell, I have a few uppers and it would take at the very least $1K to sell them. I'm partial to the platform and I bought mine when the buying was good:neener:

    On the other hand I have been selling off several glock and 10/22 mags to the less fortunate.
  16. gym

    gym member

    I find anything offensive when you price out the average guy, who has been shooting all his life. Free enterprise the changes to an elitest economy. Guns should remain affordable to the average man, and paying over a thousand dollars for a basic rifle is no longer affordable. You need to add in the other options like scopes, mags, ammo, pretty soon you are over two thousand dollars which IMO, limits the amount of sportsmen from being active in shooting anymore.
    Now they are selling AR's for 3-5000 dolars, that is no good for any of us, even if we can afford it.
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2013
  17. RetiredUSNChief

    RetiredUSNChief Well-Known Member

    Though I agree with the sentiment behind your posting, I wonder what your definition of "a basic rifle" is.

    Over a grand for "a basic rifle" does not seem to be a realistic statement to me. I don't know where you're getting your rifles, but I can find plenty of "basic rifles" at any store like Dicks, Academy, and Walmart that are several hundred BELOW a grand.

  18. mikechandler

    mikechandler Well-Known Member

    Price Gouger? Guilty as charged!


    So I had this brand new LE 6920, and I got this urge to take this new rifle and convert it to a Gas Piston system.. .which I did, which also required a fancy Daniel Defense quad rail that would work with the piston system... and I did, which also lost my regular BUIS, which I then replaced with samson flips... End Result: one VERY HEAVY carbine. LOL.

    So I shot it a few times - boy did it run clean. But man, was that too much weight.

    Then, along comes the pricing swell... and here I am with this AR15/bastardization that I never shoot sitting in the safe...



    That being said, I added it all up in my gun ledger afterward... including the cabelas bulletproof safe, magpul furniture, wilson trigger group, pro mags, crate of XM855 and...

    I made $127 on the deal.


    Oh well, even when I tries to get on boards, I fails.


    Tell you what though - it was a learning experience. Heavy AR = no fun, and I'm just happy I sold it without losing my shirt. Which brings me to the second part of this story - the real lesson: The ducats add up quickly on AR builds, so what often looks like an overpriced AR is not.

    The obligatory picture:
  19. mljdeckard

    mljdeckard Well-Known Member

    Don't like it.....don't bid.
  20. tarosean

    tarosean Well-Known Member

    It's only been the last 5 years or so that they dropped In price to where they are affordable to the masses, hence the huge surge in popularity

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