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I have owned a lot of pieces in my life, some good, some bad and some just off the charts in being either unreliable or practical. The below piece is the worse in function, reliability, usefulness and or being practical.
It is the Stinger Pen Gun in .22lr.
In bascis it is a legal Pen Gun in that it folds to resemble a firearm with a grip, barrel and a trigger. BATF considers pieces not to display a traditional outline to be an AOW, so llike converted flare pen launchers to shoot ammunition, those are considered to be an NFA weapon (assassination device) and if not registered, illegal with a max of 10 Years and $10,000 for each violation.
This stinger requires you to turn the barrel safety off, empty the round that was shot (if it ignited), load the new round, screw the barrel back on, seat the barrel after cocking and RE-COCKING per the instructions, then seat the barrel again until the firing pin breech TOUCHES the back of the rimfire round, there is a notch in the chamber area that supposidly kept the rim of the round snug against the breech with the firing pin, but just too much tolerance slop to be reliable, turn the safety (no positive safety, just a barrel that turns for on and off), then aim and fire..... most of the time the barrel is not seated correctly due to slop in the threads and you have to cock and RE-COCK it, re-seat the barrel and then take the safety off and try to fire again.
The .25 and the .32 acp were also unreliable in function. The pieces are made of excellent material, just a poorly excuted design, mostly due to machine tolerances allowed for ease of assembly. The ones made by American Derringer are no better.
I refuse to sell the two I have because I would never want anyone to depend on them in a bad situation.
Here are a few pics of both the standard model and the model built into a folding knife (the folding knife model was actually more reliable, plus the blade was excellent).
It is the Stinger Pen Gun in .22lr.
In bascis it is a legal Pen Gun in that it folds to resemble a firearm with a grip, barrel and a trigger. BATF considers pieces not to display a traditional outline to be an AOW, so llike converted flare pen launchers to shoot ammunition, those are considered to be an NFA weapon (assassination device) and if not registered, illegal with a max of 10 Years and $10,000 for each violation.
This stinger requires you to turn the barrel safety off, empty the round that was shot (if it ignited), load the new round, screw the barrel back on, seat the barrel after cocking and RE-COCKING per the instructions, then seat the barrel again until the firing pin breech TOUCHES the back of the rimfire round, there is a notch in the chamber area that supposidly kept the rim of the round snug against the breech with the firing pin, but just too much tolerance slop to be reliable, turn the safety (no positive safety, just a barrel that turns for on and off), then aim and fire..... most of the time the barrel is not seated correctly due to slop in the threads and you have to cock and RE-COCK it, re-seat the barrel and then take the safety off and try to fire again.
The .25 and the .32 acp were also unreliable in function. The pieces are made of excellent material, just a poorly excuted design, mostly due to machine tolerances allowed for ease of assembly. The ones made by American Derringer are no better.
I refuse to sell the two I have because I would never want anyone to depend on them in a bad situation.
Here are a few pics of both the standard model and the model built into a folding knife (the folding knife model was actually more reliable, plus the blade was excellent).