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Worst myths you've heard about guns which are meant to scare the general public?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by BehindTheIronCurtain, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. BehindTheIronCurtain

    BehindTheIronCurtain Well-Known Member

    As I learn more about guns and own more and more of them, I realize that many of the myths I've heard as a kid are just BS.

    I remember when I was in the 7th grade and a uniformed nypd officer came to teach us about gun violence and how terrible guns are. The entire visit was put together by the people's republic to get us while we're young and teach us how dangerous guns are. Interestingly enough, we would also be visited by another cop to teach about drugs too.

    Anyway, after telling us how dangerous they were, he told us a story. A cop was in his basement dry firing at a wall for what reason, I don't know, apparently you have to do this in the nypd? His wife calls and while talking to her he loads a round into the chamber and forgets it's there. Hangs up, and continues his dry firing, but oh no, there is a live round in the chamber and he shoots the wall. The bullet ricochets off the basement wall, goes up into the ceiling, and into the baby's crip, killing him/her.

    After careful research, I dub this story BS, even myth busters shot 45 cals into iron only to see them shatter.

    Anyone else care to hare a BS story?
  2. MedWheeler

    MedWheeler Well-Known Member

    That having a gun for home defense is unsafe because one would be like 42 more times more likely to be killed by gunfire (or other criminal activity) than to kill a home intruder. This argument/myth fails because it does not take into account incidences in which a gun is used to successfully stop an intrusion without an intruder being killed.
    That teens carrying handguns are 40+ times more likely to die in gun violence than those not in possession. Duh.. the vast majority of teens carrying handguns are already in violation of law by doing so, and are doing so because they are already involved in high-risk behavior, such as gang activity or criminal activity.
    Those are two I hear over and over. There are more, but I can't stay online right now to type what would end up being a diatribe over it.
  3. chevyman097

    chevyman097 Well-Known Member

    45acp will take a mans arm clean off causing him to do flipping whirlwinds through the window behind him.....
  4. Carl N. Brown

    Carl N. Brown Well-Known Member

    Here's three

    The evil prototypical Saturday Night Special, the .22 short RG 10, fired a magical bullet that would enter the chest, tear about the body, ricochet off bones, and end up anywhere, even the leg. (.22 short from a revolver with a 2" barrel will often fail to penetrate the sternum or skull, and penetration in flesh is a few inches. A .22 short once penetrated a man's chest, entered a vein, got pumped through the heart, circulated down the aorta, and stuck in the femoral artery in the thigh. Mis-reporting of the autopsy results led to this urban legend. In a similar manner, birdshot with a penetration of just one inch, may enter the circulatory system and float in the blood flow and end up almost anywhere in the body.)

    Plus the evil RG10 was so poorly made it would explode like a hand grenade and kill the shooter as often as not. (The mass of gun powder in a .22 short equals a baby aspirin; a hand grenade contains several ounces of explosive. Even anti-gunner Robert Sherrill admitted that story was the bunk: in all his research he never found a single death or injury from an exploding RG10.)

    An anti-gun demonstration on the evils of the demon assault weapon, and the danger of allowing the ban to lapse, showed a pre-ban AK rifle blowing holes through a concrete block, then demonstrated a ban-compliant AK rifle fired with no effect. Even CNN had to admit the test was bogus: off camera, the ban-compliant rifle was shot into the dirt, not at the cinderblock. Both guns would shoot through a concrete block. Any common deer rifle will shoot through a cinder block.

    And on the subject of the Assault Weapon Ban, the news would talk about banning semi-automatic rifles, but show full-automatic machineguns blazing away at 600 rpm.

    Ooops, guess that's four.

    And the Kellerman/New England Journal of Medicine 47, er 42, er 2.7 times more likely figure got revised down to 40% more likely, or 1.4 times.
    Last edited: Apr 19, 2012
  5. highorder

    highorder Well-Known Member

    My favorite? Guns "go off" from handling or being dropped.

    Guns go off when you pull the trigger.
  6. MrDig

    MrDig Well-Known Member

    "It just went off"
    Probably the greatest gun myth told. Guns don't "go off" unless a booger hook hits the bang switch
  7. zxcvbob

    zxcvbob Well-Known Member

    Guns are racist. :rolleyes:
  8. Slamfire

    Slamfire Well-Known Member

    "A fifty caliber rifle will shoot through a tank a mile away."

    I think I first read it in the Chicago Tribune, this URL indicates it started with an AP article in an Indianopolis newspaper.

  9. Carl N. Brown

    Carl N. Brown Well-Known Member

    I wish I had saved my copy of an old alarmist skreed "Menace of the Sex Deviant". It contained the kind of scare stories used to promote gun control, prohibition of alcohol, reefer madness and bans on Vault of Horror comics. If you make out on lovers lane, an escaped lunatic will leave hanging on the door of your car ... a hook! Be afraid, be very afraid, but authority will save you.

    FIVETWOSEVEN Well-Known Member

    An AK 47 will fire both their rounds and our own rounds. (7.62 x 39 and 5.56 x 45 from the same gun)
  11. Skribs

    Skribs Well-Known Member

    Probably the worst, for me, is the belief that having a gun will make you more likely to commit a crime (or try to change the laws so you can commit violent acts while not breaking the law). This means that people associate guns with criminals, and don't want to associate with guns for belief that they will go down a dark path because of them.
  12. Bigdog57

    Bigdog57 Well-Known Member

    As reported by a CNN talking head during the search for the Beltway killers a few years back.....

    "The .223Rem from an AR-15 can make accurate headshots at 5,000 yards, and is so deadly because the bullet SPINS!"

    Yeah, that one deserved a major league face palm. :eek:
  13. JCinAK

    JCinAK Active Member

    Black guns are somehow more deadly than hunting rifles/shotguns.
  14. tomaz45

    tomaz45 Well-Known Member

    " A 50 cal BMG Sniper rifle can bring down an airliner"
    Hypotheticly, perhaps, but ask those greatest generation fighter pilots from WWII just how many rounds it took to get a "Kill". My answer to this statement of "fact" is "Show me the documention where this has happened" Statistics will also show that people who take a conceal carry certification course are 80% LESS LIKELY to be involved in a deadly force encounter than "average citizen". Why?? Look at the demograghics of who takes CCW classes (mid aged and seniors who want to obey the law).
  15. Murphy4570

    Murphy4570 Well-Known Member

    Wow. Guess we better introduce that guy to a little thing called barrel rifling. Been around since the 1860s?
  16. AntiSpin

    AntiSpin Well-Known Member

    I think there were rifled muskets in the Revolutionary War.
  17. Ragnar Danneskjold

    Ragnar Danneskjold Well-Known Member

    That gun owners are violent people just waiting for a chance to harm someone.
  18. Curator

    Curator Well-Known Member

    A woman with a handgun is more likely to have the gun taken from her by the Bad Guy and then have it used on her or her loved ones. That seems to be the principal scare tactic of the League of Women Voters' ( a supposedly "non-partisan" group) local la Presidente, along with "Stand your Ground" legislation causing vigilante mentality.
  19. 1911Tuner

    1911Tuner Moderator Emeritus

    Guy in a gun shop talking about the German MG-42 that fired so fast there were three bullets in the barrel at the same time. He became rather hostile when it was gently explained that having three bullets moving in the barrel at the same time was impossible.
  20. JohnKSa

    JohnKSa Well-Known Member

    120,000 rounds per minute IS a bit high, isn't it... :D

    Basically you'd be firing a round every half a millisecond. 2,000 of them in a second.

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