Worst Rifle Ever?

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We all love to debate and argue which rifle of whatever style is the best. It's one of my favorite subjects in fact. But what about the opposite end of that question? What's the WORST rifle, in your own mind? Personal experience, historical evidence, etc. Whatever you think, I'm interested to know.

EDIT: Almost forgot, please keep it civil boys and girls. It's just the internet, and just your opinion.
 
I don' t have any good ideas right now, I'll be interested to see what comes up.
 
I've heard that the rifles from the first gun company to call itself Kimber were pretty bad. I've never seen one in person though.
 
I've heard the carcano was pretty poor (and part of the jfk conspiracy theory). And the french chauchat. Don't think the marines had the greatest luck with the reising.
I don't have personal experience with any of these but in my quest for firearms knowledge those are a few that pop to mind.
 
Personal experience; Remington 522 Viper .22LR
I think they only made it for a couple of years. I had one and can understand why.
 
DoubleTapDrew said:
I've heard the carcano was pretty poor (and part of the jfk conspiracy theory). And the french chauchat. Don't think the marines had the greatest luck with the reising.
I don't have personal experience with any of these but in my quest for firearms knowledge those are a few that pop to mind.
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I've never fired one, but my uncle has one I won't trust as a club. I did have a Mosin that was a POS. It wasn't the rifles fault. It was worn out. Everything has a shelf life.

I did have a WASR that was a piece. I couldn't hit fish in a barrel and NO it wasn't because I couldn't shoot it.
 
In terms of consistent inaccuracy...Mini-14...great rifles otherwise, but gawd aweful inaccurate.
 
I have no love for my mini 14, heck I havn't even shot it for a few years.

IMHO its a big clunky thing compared to the M1 carbine, kind of like a half a** attempt to make the M14 fire the .223 IMHO. Mine is damn near brand new and not very accurite, not very reliable, and not that great to shoot.

I'd sell it if it wasn't a gift.
 
Another vote for the Chauchat.

The original L85, before H&K re-engineered them, would get an honorable mention.
 
I have one to beat you all. The Garcia Bronco skeleton stock .22 long rifle. only 22 i have ever heard of being unpleasant to fire, and the 410 version is reported to be downright painful. The 22's barrel has thinner walls than my mossbergs slug barrel. Also: the mondragon rifle, because the chachat is really an lmg.
edit: Gewehr 41 was pretty awful too.
 
I love savage bolt rifles, but my brother bought a savage, don't know what model, and it's a .22LR semi-auto budget rifle (it was like 100 bucks) and it won't even get through a 10 round mag without at least 2 malfunctions.
 
DRM said:
In terms of consistent inaccuracy...Mini-14...great rifles otherwise, but gawd aweful inaccurate.
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Plenty of people would argue with you on that. The M1 Magazine that came out last month described a well known shooter who said that his would shoot MOA all day long. I don't own one, but it sounds more like one may be good, another garbage. I'd like one, but I can't believe that the cost more than a mid level AR these days!

Personally, I don't have a vote. But I'm interested in where this goes.
 
Individual examples of a bad gun are easy to hear of, a line of guns so badly done that all are worthless takes angry myopic beavers!
 
By reputation I would say Canadian Ross Rifle of WWI or UK L85. Worst I've personally shot was an AR-7 (not made by Armalite) that would double-fire if you rested the magazine in your support hand. It was inaccurate and unreliable as well. An inaccurate, unreliable survival rifle? Dunno if it really did float, but maybe that would have been a mixed blessing in a survival situation. . .
 
The worst one I ever had was howa 1500 then remington 597, both couldn't shoot any reasonable groups.
 
"I'd say the AR-15. $1000 jam-o-matic that I can't even think about working on myself."

Really? Seriously?
I don't even know what to say to that...
 
Really? Seriously?
I don't even know what to say to that...
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Lol. I'm guessing you're saying you disagree. I will say that there are an awful lot of manufacturers out there making a lot of AR-15 models. Some of them are certainly junk, others are solid rifles.

I will lament the ARs enormous shadow eclipsing nearly all other autorifle development. I'd really like to see more different models of autos. Nothing against the AR, I own one, but it sure would be nice to be able to pick up a "conventional" autorifle in classic calibers. My AR is a something of a safe queen. I'm much more likely to throw my M1 Carbine behind the truck seat than my AR. It would be really sweet if I could pick up a M1 / Mini 14 size carbine in something like 250/3000 or 300 Savage or maybe one in the new .30 TC, but the AR has overwhelmed all competition.

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I would vote for the Canadian Ross since it had a nasty habit of ejecting its bolt straight back into the shooter's face.

Since Ruger changed the barrel profile on the Mini 14s a few years back, accuracy has improved greatly on them. Mine isn't a MOA rifle by any means, but neither were any of the M16A1s or M16A2s I shot in the Army. Oh, yeah, mine cost $607.00 at Walmart with a 5 round magazine. My children bought me three 20 round mags and three 30 round mags, and they all function perfectly. YMMV.

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Kenrifleman-
Just a really broad brushstroke, you know?
There's lots of good AR manufacturers out there too. It's also one of the most popular rifles to self-build with allot of people assembling them from parts kits on their kitchen tables.
I will admit that i own 3 and might be a bit biased. as for safe queens...not all. one of mine is my designated beater. It gets pulled out for coyote duty when the weathers bad (to spare some of my nicer bolt guns) along with getting left out of the safe and not getting cleaned as often as it should...guess what though?!? It shoots minute of coyote with cheap ammo without jamming and i just swapped it from an A1 receiver to an A4 all by myself!!! :neener:

As for the AR-overdose issue...i understand, but as you know, it's all about supply and demand. And "Tacticool" is whats been selling. It'll slow down, demand will fizzle (it already has to an extent) and then maybe Rem/Brow/Benelli will come out with a new semi-auto 'hunting" firearm, who knows?
 
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