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Would someone please explain this to me???

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Preacherman, Apr 30, 2005.

  1. Preacherman

    Preacherman Elder

    Dec 20, 2002
    Louisiana, USA
    So, why not just let him jump again (for the third time, no less!)??? :confused:

    From SeattlePI (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/222228_bridge29ww.html):

    Friday, April 29, 2005

    Distraught man shot by Seattle police


    Police who went to the aid of a distraught man jumping off a bridge in Seattle ended up shooting him early this morning.

    It happened about 4:15 a.m. at the First Avenue South Bridge over the Duwamish River. The man's mother had reportedly called police to say he was suicidal.

    Officers were trying to calm the man when they struggled and shots were fired, police spokeswoman Debra Brown said.

    His wife and child were reportedly in a car on the bridge at the time.

    The man, in his 20s, was taken to Harborview Medical Center with life-threatening injuries.

    Brown says the man jumped off the bridge twice from a low height. After surviving the first jump, he went back and jumped again before police arrived.
  2. Randy in Arizona

    Randy in Arizona Member

    Sep 10, 2003
    East of the Democratic People's Republic of Tucson

    It's all about control, do as we say, come along peacefully now fella.

    Don't comply, yo a$$ be grass, they the mower. :rolleyes:

    Rather obvious that they need training to handle distraught, suicidal folks.

  3. P95Carry

    P95Carry Moderator Emeritus

    Jan 3, 2003
    South PA, and a bit West of center!
    If a jump won't cut it - then suicide by cop will do just as well! :rolleyes:
  4. mrhuckins

    mrhuckins Guest

    Need more details

    Hard to say why the guy was shot. Perhaps the cops tried to grab him in order to prevent him from jumping, and the guy made a grab for their weapons..... :confused:
  5. Vernal45

    Vernal45 member

    Feb 28, 2005
    USA, I travel alot.
    MORE info needed.

    Man shot dead by Seattle police early this morning

    By Seattle Times staff

    A distraught man in his mid-20s was fatally shot by a Seattle police officer early this morning.

    Around 3:30 a.m., police received several 911 calls from witnesses who reported seeing a man on the First Avenue South bridge in West Seattle, said police spokeswoman Debra Brown.

    The man apparently jumped off the bridge, but the fall was not that far, Brown said. He then climbed back onto the bridge and jumped again.

    When officers arrived, the man apparently hid in a brushy area. A police dog honed in on a particular spot and officers began calling for the man, Brown said.

    "It's still not clear how the contact happened, but at some point, there was a struggle and he was shot," she said. The man was taken to Harborview Medical Center where he died.

    The patrol officer who fired at least one shot is assigned to the department's southwest precinct, Brown said. She said officers are still trying to clarify the sequence of events, adding more information will be available later today.

    There was a woman and a child in the vicinity of the incident, but police aren't sure what their relationship is to the man.

    A death investigator with the King County Medical Examiner's Office said an autopsy on the man's body is scheduled for today.

    Police officer fatally shoots distraught man after struggle


    Associated Press

    A distraught man who twice jumped off a low bridge early Friday was fatally shot by a Seattle police officer after a struggle over the officer's gun, police said.

    The King County medical examiner's office identified the man as Dennie Trujillo, 35. No hometown was immediately known. He was shot in the neck and trunk.

    Police had responded to a 911 call about 3:30 a.m. about a man jumping off the First Avenue South Bridge over the Duwamish River.

    The man had jumped twice — each time landing in some bushes a short distance below the bridge, police spokeswoman Debra Brown said.

    According to an account given by police, when officers arrived, they chased the man into some brush, where he lunged at one officer and began struggling with him over his gun. The gun discharged, wounding the man.

    Then "in rapid succession, the officer was able to gain some control of the gun, even though they were still wrestling over it," Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske said later. "He fired, intentionally fired. A round did strike the suspect."

    The man was taken to Harborview Medical Center, where he died. The man apparently was unarmed, police said.

    The man's mother had called police to report that he had told her he wanted to be shot by police.

    The events began when the man left the scene of a hit-and-run accident involving two parked cars in the Fremont neighborhood, and called a female friend to pick him up.

    The woman and her child were sitting in her car on the bridge when the shooting occurred.

    The officer involved in the shooting was not immediately identified.
  6. Lord Grey Boots

    Lord Grey Boots Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Snohomish, WA
    What I heard on local radio was that the jumper managed to get a pistol away from an officer and fired a shot. In the ensuing hilarity, the idiot got shot.
  7. MaterDei

    MaterDei Senior Member

    Sep 23, 2003

    Dude, check you dictionary. Nothing about this story is anything but sad.
  8. c_yeager

    c_yeager Mentor

    Mar 14, 2003
    I don't know about that. In the end everyone seems to have gotten what they wanted. The idiot got himself dead, and the rest of us get to scratch one more loser off the membership roll. I feel sorry for the guy's family, and the poor dude that had to shoot him, and thats it.

    There are a few bridges that provide MUCH better suicide opportunities than the one that he chose within easy driving distance, i think that the city should provide a map.
  9. El Tejon

    El Tejon Elder

    Dec 24, 2002
    Lafayette, Indiana-the Ned Flanders neighbor to Il
    Preacherman, the government know one thing and only one thing--violence.
  10. strambo

    strambo Senior Member

    Feb 14, 2004
    The AP article above certainly fills in all the blanks...even called his mother saying he wanted to be shot by a cop, happy birthday you got your wish.

    I feel sorry for the guy's family and the officer he victimized through his death.
  11. BryanP

    BryanP Senior Member

    May 25, 2003
    Lavergne, TN
    I'm reminded of the Suicide song by Bobby Gaylor. "Not everyone wants to be saved. Not everyone should be saved." "'But suicide is against the law.' BS. It's only against the law if you do a crappy job."
  12. Firethorn

    Firethorn Participating Member

    Feb 27, 2004
    MaterDei and Hilarity.

    MaterDei, you have to realize that some of us have rather dry senses of humor. A situation like this is so intense that no word really describes it. Thus, we use a word that causes a disconnect by being used in the opposite meaning.

    Hilarity has been used in this manner before.
  13. Byron Quick

    Byron Quick Moderator In Memoriam

    Dec 21, 2002
    Waynesboro, Georgia
    Pretty good fit...we had to destroy the village to save it.
  14. Cool Hand Luke 22:36

    Cool Hand Luke 22:36 member

    Oct 19, 2003
    Arlington, VA
    I can recall the case about 5 years back where a jumper was on the Woodrow Wilson Bridge south of D.C. This is the most heavily travelled bridge in the United States, carrying about 1/3 of the Nation's interstate trucking, and the single busiest commuter artery in this city.

    The Police decided that they not only had to shut down the southern span where the jumper was standing, but the northern span as well. :banghead: They kept these bridges, and consequently Interstate 95, closed for about 5 hours. The closures resulted in the single worst traffic jam in recorded human history as Washington D.C. came to a literal standstill. It was estimated EMT's were called to assist around 3 people who suffered fatal heart attacks from stress while being stalled in traffic that day. As I recall the loser did eventually jump and was rescued from the Potomac by a Police launch.

    The situiation would have been much better handled by simply ignoring the loser, or taking him out with a sniper since he was thought to have had a handgun at first.
  15. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Dec 24, 2002
    Idahohoho, the jolliest state
    Some people apparently need to mess up their suicides as badly as they've messed up their lives.
  16. Preacherman

    Preacherman Elder

    Dec 20, 2002
    Louisiana, USA
    What I still can't figure out is that the guy's wife and kid were parked there, watching him!!! :what:

    Isn't that some kind of criminal offence, watching a guy (never mind your husband) trying to commit suicide, and not calling for help? Wouldn't any sane person try to stop him?

    :confused: :uhoh: :scrutiny:
  17. RevDisk

    RevDisk Participating Member

    Apr 27, 2004
    Not really. Good Samaritian laws pretty much state you are not obligated to save someone's life. I have some training as a medic. I won't go overboard in trying to save a person's life. I will call 911, I will explain how the person can apply a pressure bandage to themselves, I will talk to them and keep them calm, etc. However, I won't get their blood on me, nor will I improvise medical treatment if I don't have the proper kit on me. AIDS and lawsuits, Preacherman.

    Depends on the circumstances, but there are many circumstances where I would not try to stop a jumper or anyone else trying to commit suicide. I'd always call 911 and report it, though.
  18. Vodka7

    Vodka7 New Member

    Jun 15, 2004
    South Philly
    The guy was crazy, and it was a woman and her kid.

    I know if I was confronted by a man who was ready to kill himself, I sure wouldn't want to give him two more targets if I had a small child with me.
  19. Faithless

    Faithless New Member

    Feb 27, 2004
    I'm betting the man with the mop wanted a smaller mess to clear up.
  20. BlackCat

    BlackCat member

    Nov 19, 2004
    In The Zone

    That's so funny, man with a mop, heh. :)

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