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Yay San Francisco!!! And it begins...

Discussion in 'Legal' started by sharpie613, Dec 15, 2004.

  1. sharpie613

    sharpie613 Well-Known Member

  2. Graystar

    Graystar Well-Known Member

    I was upset at this until I realized it would boost the murder rate.
  3. R.H. Lee

    R.H. Lee Well-Known Member

    Yeah, well good luck with that. pffft.
  4. hartzpad

    hartzpad Well-Known Member

    I grew up in the East Bay and I currently go to school in Utah (where everything is legal). I love everything about CA except the cost of living and the politics. If I can't find a decent job in UT, there are plenty in CA and if I ever have to move back to CA, I will pledge to do all I can to raise hell with the anti-gun liberals there. News stories like this just make my blood boil! Why do they think that criminals will follow such a ban? Look at DC! Then again, this is the city whose District Attorney would not seek the death penalty against the guy that murdered a cop with an illegal AK47 and the same city which elected Gavin "Gayboy" Newsom. I swear, they better hope that I don't ever have to move back there because I will try to be the biggest thorn in their side. I would try and band all the "real" Californians from their honest homes outside of the coastal areas and fight for the rights that they should have. Kudos to guys like Jim March for doing all they do.
  5. hartzpad

    hartzpad Well-Known Member

    "How many residents would be affected by the ban is unclear, since California does not require residents to register handguns that are kept in a private residence of business."

    CA doesn't require residents to register handguns?

    What is this from the CA DOJ website?

    Any person who moves into California and who brings any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person is considered to be a "Personal Handgun Importer" and is required to do one of the following within 60 days:

    Complete and submit a NEW RESIDENT HANDGUN OWNERSHIP REPORT form along with $19.00 to the Department of Justice. A separate report form and $19.00 fee is required for each handgun reported. NEW RESIDENT HANDGUN OWNERSHIP REPORT forms can be obtained from California Department of Motor Vehicles' offices, licensed firearms dealers, local police and sheriff's departments, the California Department of Justice Firearms Division at (916) 263-4887, and from the Online Forms Page at this site.

    Sell or transfer the handgun(s) to a California licensed firearms dealer or to another individual using a California licensed firearms dealer to conduct the transaction.

    Sell or transfer the handgun(s) to a California police or sheriff's department. Persons choosing this option should contact the law enforcement agency for instructions prior to transporting the handgun(s) to the agency.
  6. gbran

    gbran Well-Known Member

    My ccw invalid in SF?

    I don't live in SF, but go there often. My ccw is unrestricted, and while my home county issued it, this permit is a state permit. I assume this means SF will trump the state (and the constitution) and won't allow anybody to posess or carry in their fine city.
  7. 50 Freak

    50 Freak Well-Known Member

    It won't happen, imagine SF having to compensate all of us gun owners in SF for their weapons. They cannot force everyone to give up their guns without compensating them. It will bankrupt the freaking city even more than it already is. FRUCKING STUPID POLITICIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Getting close to the point where I will start doing my voting from the rooftops.

    Note to self...stockpile more ammo. Buy more guns!!!!!!!!!!!!
  8. tyme

    tyme Well-Known Member

    hartzpad, new purchases are recorded/registered, and people moving into California (technically) have to register their handguns, but there might be a loophole where guns that were in CA before the registration scheme began never had to be registered.
  9. R.H. Lee

    R.H. Lee Well-Known Member

    There is. ;)

    Compliance is the issue. The more restrictive the law the lower the rate of compliance. They won't get a majority to 'turn in' their handguns. Ain't gonna happen. They can pass all the blissninny laws they want. There still will be crimes committed with handguns. Some of those 'crimes' will be the 'unlawful' possession of a handgun by a citizen using it in defense of his life. :(
  10. Michigander

    Michigander Well-Known Member

    [SARCASM]Hey, as long as it never amounts to confiscation, what's the harm?[/SARCASM]

  11. R.H. Lee

    R.H. Lee Well-Known Member

  12. sharpie613

    sharpie613 Well-Known Member

    What's really scary is that despite all evidence to the contrary, the city still thinks this is a good idea. And, it opens up the door for Oakland and Richmond to enact their own bans, and from there, to spread like a cancer to the rest of the Bay, which is one third of the voters of the state.

    San Francisco is just dumb enough to vote for such a thing, too. :banghead:
  13. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Not only vote for it, but vote for it with great, loud pride.

  14. Jim Diver

    Jim Diver Well-Known Member

    SF tried this about 15-20 years ago under Fienswine. It was struck down by the courts as the city did not have the right to do such things.

    It's gonna go no where.
  15. Stickjockey

    Stickjockey Well-Known Member

    SW, is that link supposed to lead to the Budget Rent-a-truck site?
  16. Sindawe

    Sindawe Well-Known Member

    I suspect that the SF Supv. have been smoking those flowers instead of wearing them in their hair.
  17. wasrjoe

    wasrjoe Well-Known Member

    SW is kindly suggesting to the poster he quoted that he or she move.
  18. QuarterBoreGunner

    QuarterBoreGunner Well-Known Member

    Totally unnecessary dude. You want to make cheap shots, great, but it adds nothing to the overall conversation and cheapens whatever valid points you might have to make.

    Just saying.

    As for this... unpleasant idea being floated by our intrepid board of supes... well I've already voiced my opinion over on www.calguns.net. Legally it will never fly so I'm not over concerned by it, it's just a fuzzy feel good symbolic gesture. Which I will pointedly ingnore no matter what the outcome.
  19. hartzpad

    hartzpad Well-Known Member

    By "Gayboy" I was referring to how he never mentioned his intentions in his campaign, got elected and out of nowhere declares that gay marriage is now legal in S.F.
  20. sharpie613

    sharpie613 Well-Known Member


    As soon as the lady and I can save up enough money to move, we are headed to Seattle. The taxation rates here are atrocious, and I don't like the idea of being a criminal for what's in my safe.

    Seattle is just hippie enough for the lady and friendly enough to things that go bang for me, and the weather is amenable to both of us. I can't see raising a family and not be able to protect them.

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