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Yeee ha.... finally got a Walker.

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Ferret, Aug 10, 2006.

  1. Ferret

    Ferret Well-Known Member

    Well. Its mine when I go pick it up. A smidge over $200 out of the door and its Uberti.

    I cant wait to stoke the fire on this one and let it rip. The neighbours already think I shoot 'hand cannons', wonder what they will think when I let it rip with DOUBLE my usual 30gr charge!!

    Whats the max charge this will take, with wad and ball? and does anyone know what the average speed at say 5ft from muzzle will be with maximum charge? I dont want to get near the SASS pistol cut off (1000fps)
  2. hillbilly

    hillbilly Well-Known Member

    With a BP revolver, especially one like the Walker, the "maximum" charge is only limited by the amount of space in the cylinder.

    If you can squeeze the ball in atop, and effectively seal the chamber, whatever you've got in there is the "maximum charge."


  3. sundance44s

    sundance44s Well-Known Member


    Boy thats one that`ll make ya grin every time ya cock the hammer back .:D
  4. mec

    mec Well-Known Member

    it'll hold 60 grains under a ball.
    The lever will drop down but it doesn't matter. Tape or rubber band it in place.
  5. Ferret

    Ferret Well-Known Member

    Thanks Mec... a pic is worth 1000 words... especially when you put the load data on it... grin

    Finally read your latest in Guns mag... excellent. Educating people that there were in fact some very good guns before auto loaders and half moon clips!
  6. mec

    mec Well-Known Member

    the GUNs that came today has one about Patersons in it.
  7. dwave

    dwave Well-Known Member

    Man, I want to get a walker too, but I think I am going to get a dragoon first. I want one of all of them anyways! :) Have fun with it.
  8. Peter M. Eick

    Peter M. Eick Well-Known Member


    They are a heck of a lot of fun to shoot also! Here is 60 grns of pyrodex. A lot more accurate then I would have expected and more of a push then recoil.
  9. Duncaninfrance

    Duncaninfrance Well-Known Member


    The lever will drop down but it doesn't matter. Tape or rubber band it in place.
    Why is that Mec? Seems to me like a flawed design in the original or was it supposed to do that and if so, why?

    I always ask the questions others want the answers to :confused:
  10. Plink

    Plink Well-Known Member

    Duncan, the originals did it too. It's a design flaw that has carried on. It shows that the modern guns are pretty close to the originals. Personally, I'd like to see a solution to it, but then again, it is historically accurate.
  11. mec

    mec Well-Known Member

    exactly. they used the same depending springy peg as on the Patersons. that set up works on the low recoil small bores but not on the walker. Ive read posts by one guy who cut a deeper notch to make it stick better but don't know how long such a fix would work. It also required extra manipulaton to unlatch the lever. The entire run of Walkers consisted of 1100 units made under time constraints. The "transition" or Whitneyville dragoons were the first post walker revolvers and they had front latches on the lever.
  12. Dave P

    Dave P Well-Known Member

    I want one too!!

    $200 sounds like a great price.
  13. Third_Rail

    Third_Rail Well-Known Member

    FWIW, we have them for $270 in the group buy. Don't know how you got one for $200, though!
  14. mec

    mec Well-Known Member

    More Walker Loads

    Results will vary but seem consistent between our two Walkers. The traditional Picket bullet worked surprisingly well but I had to cone the loading stem and bevel the base of the bullet.
    140 Grain Ball Charge Velocity Extreme Spread {5}
    55 Goex FFFg 1001 fps 54
    60 Goex FFFg 1115 fps 46
    60 Gr./Vol. Pyrodex P 1221 44
    60 Gr./Vol. A Pioneer 974 80
    60 Gr/Vol Swiss FFF 1278 53
    55 FFg 956 46
    60 Gr./Vol. PyrodexRS 1045 35
    37 Gr./Vol. H 777 1201 72

    200 Grain Lee Bullet
    40 FFFg 927 40
    45 Swiss FFFg 1074 33
    45Gr/Vol Pyrodex P 1087 47

    170Grain Original Pattern Picket Bullet
    40 Grains Swiss FFFg 1031 36
    Energy 402 ft/lbs
    45 Grains Goex FFFg 1026 84
    45 Grains Swiss FFFg 1158 35
    506 ft/lbs
    45 Gr/vol. Pyrodex P 1035 57
    Bullets include original form picket bullet from dixie mould and some Civil war surplus bullets in the 240-246 grain range. These were for the later dragoons.
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2010
  15. Yankee John

    Yankee John Well-Known Member

    Here is a pic of how I slightly modified the latch spring on my ASM Walker to keep the lever from dropping (The latch spring is a Dixie Gunworks replacement for the ASM part that broke).

    The lever now stays up with 50 gr. Pyrodex P loads!

    Hope this helps,
    Last edited: Apr 11, 2013
  16. mec

    mec Well-Known Member

    a neat job
  17. Peter M. Eick

    Peter M. Eick Well-Known Member

    I agree. Neat solution. If I shot mine more often I would fix it up, but right now, I consider the lever drop to be part of the history of the gun.

    By the way, does anyone know what the "style" of shooting was back then? IE: did folks one hand them or use 2 hand holds like I did in the shot above?
  18. TexasRifleman

    TexasRifleman Moderator Emeritus

    It absolutely is a piece of the history of the gun.

    If you want to be authentic, but still not have to fool with the lever, then tie it in the up position with a piece of leather shoestring. Don't tie it too tight, then just slide it forward and backward on the barrel. Slide it forward when you are shooting, slide it back and the lever will drop.
  19. mec

    mec Well-Known Member

    It varied from something that looks like NRA bullseye. to the awful crooked elbow stance you see in the fredrick remington pictures. I've even heard some fairly recent loudmouths proclaim that the only way to shoot a pistol is to bend your elbow so as to bring the gun up about a foot from your face.
    I call this one the "Poodle Taking a Dump" presentation. It looks a little like a dowager hoisting a martini at a coctail party and is about as steady.

    Some representations of Hickock shooting Dave Tutt have him resting the revolver across his left wrist instead of holding it in two hands. People usually learned to shoot with one hand because the other hand was busy doing something with a horse or other 19th century bric a brac. John taffin made an educated guess that the Walker might have inspired some two handed shooting down around Matamoros and Mexico city.
  20. Peter M. Eick

    Peter M. Eick Well-Known Member

    I was thinking that shooting a Walker one handed you would have to be a lot stronger then I am. I guess life was a lot harder then, so you probably naturally developed a lot more muscle mass then we have today?

    Thanks for the information. I loved the mental picture of your "poodle stance".

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