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Yes it is true CCW does work!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Eric F, Jul 9, 2008.

  1. Eric F

    Eric F Well-Known Member


    This is the third time in 2 weeks were citizens had guns in this area and defended themselves effectively!

  2. herr.baer

    herr.baer Active Member

    Problem is he didn't have a CCW. :banghead:

    Eley said the man who shot the teen did not have a permit to carry a concealed weapon. The gun has been seized, but no charges have been filed.
  3. Eric F

    Eric F Well-Known Member

    OOPS didnt make the whole Quote!

    I never said he was legal..........I just said ccw worked.
  4. jrfoxx

    jrfoxx Well-Known Member

    I know in some states that one can carry concealed with no permit on private property if they have the permission of the property/buisiness owner. Is that not the case in VA?

    Granted, even if it is, the guy may not have had that permission, as we dont know if he was at a friend or relatives home, or was just taking a shortcut thru a yard, etc, but I'm still crious if anyone knows if VA allows CCW W/out ap ermit in the case I mention.If so, and the guy was at the home of someone he knew, and was there for a legit reason, if he may not be ok. Always a shame when what would otherwise bee a clean SD shoot that helps prove what we all say about CCW/OC gets blown by something like this, and ends up as a Brady statistic as a "crime gun" and a "criminal shooting".
  5. bmitchell

    bmitchell Well-Known Member

    What evidence is there that he was carrying concealed?

    SHOOT1SAM Well-Known Member

    I don't understand something here:

    This took place in the backyard of a residence; since it was not in public, why would the absence of a CCW permit make any difference??

  7. Eric F

    Eric F Well-Known Member

    In Va as far as private property goes I am almost certian you either need to 1. be the property owner or 2. have permission of the property owner. to ccw. Let me look at the state police site
    kinda vague here but the local tv news said the gun was consealed also if he had open carried there would be no reason for the police to take the weapon and no charges could be filed, if he was legal to carry the gun.

    this is what I could find in the Va laws
    In this case I can only assume that he did not have permission from the owner.

    And this too
  8. romma

    romma Well-Known Member

    Um, I was Open Carrying officer! The suspect just didn't see my gun... :evil:
  9. skoro

    skoro Well-Known Member

    If the shooter was in his own back yard, why would he need a permit? The story doesn't mention whose back yard was the scene of the incident, though... :confused:
  10. jrfoxx

    jrfoxx Well-Known Member

    Well, based on the fact that VA law seems to allow the scenario I mentioned, there is hope that they just took the gun for evidence and/or to "hold" while they sort things out, and it will turn out that he is clear of the no permit thing, with the property owner backing him saying he was ok with the guy carrying. The fact they didn't charge him (yet) is a little encouraging that he may be ok for the reasons mentioned, and this will turn out to be a win for our side, and not a stat for sara brady. Hopefully we get a little more in this later, but I wont hold my breath, as a follow-up story about him being cleared in this is not really a "grabber" kinda story like a shooting, and the implied "bad shoot" with them mentioning he had no permit, and they took the gun.Not the kind of thing the MSM tends to follow upon, as it isn't "sensational" or fitting any agenda (for those who feel the media tends to have one, and I generally agree the evidence as a whole tends to point that way when it comes to guns)
  11. MakAttak

    MakAttak Well-Known Member

    For all those wondering why they took the gun:

    Because they can.

    I am no basher of the police, but the government in the Norfolk area is SERIOUSLY anti-gun.
  12. Eric F

    Eric F Well-Known Member

    Well I dont know about that but they sure can be rough.......in this casw guilty or not the shooter may be free of charges any way. It has happened before. I sit here daily and listed to the Newport News Fire Department run shooting after shooting in that area. If the shooter is other wisa a good boy I think he has a good chance to go free and have his gun returned with a stern warning to get his CCW. It has happened before.
  13. mbt2001

    mbt2001 Well-Known Member

    Just to keep with tradition on this board, in Texas there is a Defense of Necessity:


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