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"Your CCW Light" ???

Discussion in 'Shooting Gear and Storage' started by David, Mar 10, 2003.

  1. David

    David Well-Known Member

    Since I got my CCW permit, I have been thinking of getting a good quality mini flashlight to carry on my person.

    I saw this article on NewsMax about so-called "personal LED lights".

    Here is the link:


    Does anyone carry one of these new "high tech" LED lights with their CCW, and if so, which one do you like?:confused:

    Thanks for your opinions...
  2. Preacherman

    Preacherman Well-Known Member

    I carry one of the clip-on miniature units attached to my keyring at all times, whether or not I'm armed. Comes in useful at the oddest times... Also, I got the model that can be switched to "on" permanently, rather than just flashed while a button is held down. This means I can leave that hand/finger free for weapon or other use if I have to
  3. El Rojo

    El Rojo Well-Known Member

    I carry a Surefire 3P. (note: Surefire discontinued the 3P and now offers the E1E Executive light in its place.) in my pocket with my spare magazine. They are handy little lights. Small enough to be comfortable enough to carry around, and just bright enough to light up threats withing night time shooting distances. If I knew there was going to be trouble in my home or out in the yard, I would take the Streamlight Stinger. I love the Stinger. Rechargable, super bright, and not very big.

    I highly recommend you get a good flashlight. They are a bit expensive, but if you are serious enough to carry, you need to be serious enough to carry a light with you.

    An intersting side note. Has anyone ever gone out and shot with your flashlight at night? A friend and I shot at night once while being timed. For some reason, when there is no light, you have to focus on the front sight. With my Glock 27 in the day light I often would throw one round off the target. At night while holding a flashlight, my groups were all good! Only one or two rounds in the 6 ring, the rest all 9's and 10's!
  4. Will Fennell

    Will Fennell Well-Known Member

    Photons and Surefire's

    I have a blue PHOTON II on my keychain at all times, and I carry a SUREFIRE e2e in the car during the day, and clipped in my pocket[weak side] @ night. These of course compliment my CCW.

    Bedside handgun is a BERETTA VERTEC and I have a STREAMLIGHT M3 on it that I can either use as a weapons light, or detach and use as a handheld flashlight.
  5. Double Naught Spy

    Double Naught Spy Sus Venator

    Unless things have changed, I have yet to see an LED light that would be very good as a primary light to be used with a gun. I have two. One is an ANOVA that runs on 2 CR123 3v batteries and has 5 LEDs and one is a CMG Reactor light that has one LED and runs on two AAA batteries.

    The odd thing about LED light is that it does not seem to shine as far. I know that sounds odd and while the lights look really bright, they do a poor job of illuminating at distances greater than about 10 yards and even then the quality of the lumination is not good.

    What I have found LED lights good for is close-up work where you don't want to use a bright flashlight because of the amount of light reflected back at you from whatever you are working on. For example, LEDs are great for reading maps in the car at night. That are good navigation lights to light the path directly in front of you well enough. The are really good for use as a handy light should you have the power go out and need light for an extended amount of time. In other words, these are good when you don't need as much light and you don't need it for seeing off in the distance. The big benefit of LED lights is that they tend to drain batteries very slowly while in use, so they tend to be useful for a much greater amount of time before batteries need to be changed, plus the bulbs last for something like 100,000 hours and so you won't ever be changing one.
  6. jayhway

    jayhway Well-Known Member

    I don't have a CCW, but I do carry a light on me at all times. On my keychain I have an ARC AAA. This is a nifty LED, that is made of aluminum and has an anodized finish. Its a very bright light and the good part is that it uses AAA batteries, rather than a coin lithium battery.

    On my body I sometimes carry either my Streamlight Scorpion or my Brinkman Legend LXi. Both use 123 batteries and are very bright lights. The Scorpions sell for about $30 w/ batteries and the Legend is $19 w/batteries @ Walmart. Both are good lights, but the Brinkman's bezel is much larger than the Scorpions. I also have an Insight M3 tactical light that goes with my G19, but can also be carried alone.

    The next light on my list is a Surefire E2. Its smaller than the Scorpion or Legend and is brighter too.
  7. 45R

    45R Well-Known Member

    I recommend a Surefire 6P variant. Comes in several flavors 60 or 120 lumen light.

    You can also get the polymer version for around 30 bucks. I have four 6P Surefire variants. Bar none the best tactical light that you can buy!
  8. 10-Ring

    10-Ring Well-Known Member

    Surefire makes some nice lights!...and tough too :) Plus, they have really nice customer service.
  9. David

    David Well-Known Member

    I just ordered online a couple of those ASP lights mentioned in the NewsMax article.

    I going to clip one to my keychain and keep the extra one in my vehicle.:D
  10. ruger357

    ruger357 Well-Known Member

    Streamlight Scorpion but I am thinking about a Surefire 6p.
  11. TarpleyG

    TarpleyG Well-Known Member

    Scorpion is an excellent light but the rubber "boot" makes pocket carry a little starnge at times so it stays in the safe. I like the Surefire 6p but it doesn't have a clip. I settled on a E2. It is small and has a clip. If I had it to do again, I would buy the E2e because the clip allows for you to clip the light farther into something with less chance to fall out.


    QKRTHNU Well-Known Member

    Streamlight Scorpion.

    I don't wear tight pants so the rubber sleeve doesn't cause a problem.

    I've had it for a few months now and haven't replaced the batteries yet since I just use it briefly when needed. CR123As can be found for $1-$2ea so it's not terrible expensive. Still I think I'm going to get a Photon LED to use when I don't need a whole lot of light. I find the Scorpion is too bright alot of times if I'm trying to look at something really close up.
  13. VaughnT

    VaughnT Well-Known Member

    I'm looking to get a Surefire 6P or their Nitrolon G2Z for work use, but the daily carry light that has recently caught my eye is from Streamlight.

    They've just come out with an LED keychain like similar in looks to ASP's OC keychain. Basically, it's a five-inch aluminum housing with a keychain on one end and some bulbs on the other. This would work as a light source for pre-tripping a vehicle before route or as a defensive kubotan in CQC situations. Like other's have already said, the LED isn't super bright like a surefire, but the long battery life and medium illumination is great for other applications. And being able to use it defensively is a good thing.

    edited to add ( www.streamlight.com/batonlite.htm )
  14. El Tejon

    El Tejon Well-Known Member

    Like Preacherman, I carry a "bug" (aka Photon II) on my keychain and have a bug attached to a Fenwick fly fishing clippers (I took the clippers off and attached the bug) that can be worn inside a jacket or pocket. But, I suspect, Preacher and I have similar influences.

    Very handy things to have. Even useful for finding young & nubile ear ring at cozy French restaurant downtown.:p She either thought I was cool, or a geek (remember "ultimate belt" of Comic Book Guy's). Yeah, I know, a geek.
  15. Kentucky Rifle

    Kentucky Rifle Member In Memoriam

    I keep a Photon 2 on the key ring of my Leatherman "Squirt". It's always with me. But sometimes I carry a Palight. The Pal has four settings. The Palight is perfect for a carry on bag. (ALWAYS take a small carry on bag with your meds and a change of socks and drawers. You'll realize the importance of a carry on bag when [not "IF"] the airline loses your luggage!) On the "off" setting, the Pal's LED always slightly glows. I can always find it. It provides enough light to read my watch or get the correct pill out of a medicine bottle. Once your eyes get used to the dark, the soft glow of the Pal even will let you find the light switch or light your way to the rest room without disturbing anyone else. The medium setting is actually pretty bright and the bright setting is REALLY bright. The Pal has a lens so the beam reaches out quite far.
    The Palight is powered by one 9 volt radio battery and is supposed to glow for two years on the "off" setting. 200 hours on the medium setting and 20 hours on the high setting. It even has a strobe setting. (Only runs eight hours on that one.) The body of the Pal is rubber and dropping it is no problem. My Palights are about all I use any more. The LED is supposed to be good for 100,000 hours and the battery is commonly found and inexpensive and lasts a long time. For a "normal" flashlight, it's about all I need. Incredibly, the Pal costs less than $20.00!

  16. shadow 1

    shadow 1 Well-Known Member

    Surefire just came out with new lights for 03, a model the same size as an E2E, which houses the regular tungsten lamp and three LED's called the Digital Plus model, it's quite cool, plus they also have introduced a model called Digital Lumamax, an all LED light. I believe they are now available from the website, may have to look under new products. I may have mixed up the two so check it out a www.surefire.com

    By the way, I carry on a daily basis an E2E with an TID attachment in a kydez carrier I got from www.tadgear.com, along with my G23
  17. MoonMan

    MoonMan Member

    It's the Surefire e2e for me.

    Very bright, but still small enough to carry conveniently. I'd like to see one of the e1's for comparison.
  18. Serpico

    Serpico Well-Known Member

    I recently learned quite a bit about LEDs from the candlepowerforum....I have a photon II on my key chain andi t is almost as bright as my 3 LED attitude light that takes four AAA batteries....LED bulbs vary in quality and the photon is about the best out of the key chain lights...tactically, LEDs are not as practical because they flood but don't throw a blinding beam like a good high output lamp...but the upside is battery life.....so for every day tasks the LEDs shine but for your weapon, stick to the surefire or scorpion......
  19. gbelleh

    gbelleh Well-Known Member

    I have a little Princeton Tec LED squeeze light on my keychain. It works well for finding keyholes, things dropped on the ground at night, etc. I have several other flashlights that I sometimes carry. I pretty much always carry a Surefire E2e.
  20. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

    Surefire E2e-HA. I just convinced my brother to get one and he couldn't be happier. I'm still using my old 6Z because I'm too broke to pick up an e2e to replace it with.


    - Gabe

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