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Your favored 7.62x51mm/308 defensive cartridge

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by fragout, Sep 18, 2013.

  1. fragout

    fragout Well-Known Member

    I seen a thread about 5.56mm, so I figured I would ask the same thing, but with 7.62x51mm/308 in mind.

    What load of the above caliber is your preferance for a defensive load?


    Only interested in 7.62x51mm/308 for the purpose of this thread. Please leave all others out, as my intention has not to do with comparisons of other calibers.
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2013
  2. HorseSoldier

    HorseSoldier Well-Known Member

    Any one that goes bang will get the job done.
  3. TexasPatriot.308

    TexasPatriot.308 Well-Known Member

    I cant see any .308 cartridge being considered a great defense round if you are talking close quarters unless you live out in the boondocks where it don't matter where the bullet goes after it penetrates two or three walls. as for defense in combat, fmj have always been used, but for me I would want a jhp.
  4. 303tom

    303tom member

    Same thing I use on White-tail or anything else a JHP.................
  5. splithoof

    splithoof Well-Known Member

    Remington 180 JSPC (as they used to say "the deadliest mushroom in the woods"). Well, bullet technology has come a ways since then, but it should still work very well, at about half the price of the premium offerings.
  6. 50 Shooter

    50 Shooter member

    Glaser blue, you did say defensive.
  7. back40

    back40 Well-Known Member

    defense from what?
  8. Reloadron

    Reloadron Well-Known Member

    While I never entertained the thought of using a 308 Winchester or for that matter a 223 Remington as a defensive (as in home defense) I guess if I did (for reasons I'll never understand) I would use any good hunting bullet like a PSP or JHP flavor in 160 to 180 grain weight class.

  9. yzguy87

    yzguy87 Well-Known Member

    7.62/308 packs some energy. Id say any decent hunting bullet would do the job (and do it very well too).
  10. AKElroy

    AKElroy Well-Known Member

    My .308 loves 150 gr. remmy corloked. It is cheap, and drops deer like Thor's hammer. Regularly shoots sub MOA out of my weather warrior.
  11. ACP

    ACP Well-Known Member

    For SHTF any 147-150 gr. surplus should do, for animals, what AKElroy said.
  12. Geno

    Geno Well-Known Member

    I like my 165 grain, hollow point, Sierra Game Kings, over 46 grains of Varget. They are 0.75" accurate at 100 yards in my m70s, and they feed reliably in my M1As.

  13. Robert101

    Robert101 Well-Known Member

    For self defense I favor the lighter 150 grain bullet in either FMJ or SP. I really don't mind the penetration of the FMJ for self defense. If someone pulls out a 308 for self defense then it is likely that penetration will be more of an asset than a problem. If not, then that little .224 just might do the trick at close ranges.
  14. Magnuumpwr

    Magnuumpwr Well-Known Member

    If I had to use my 308, my choice would be my Extreme Shock 160gr SW. FPS= 985 and Ft#'s= 344. Short range/CQ.
  15. fragout

    fragout Well-Known Member

    A list of my current favorite factory loads I have used.

    Fed XM80C 149gr
    Win Q3130 147gr
    Fed (AE) 168gr OTM
    Fed (Vital shock) 165gr SGK
    SSA 168gr OTM
    Win 168gr BST
    Black Hills (gold) 168gr TSX
    Fed XM118LR 175gr
    Fed 168gr GMM
  16. ZGunner

    ZGunner Well-Known Member

    I'd have to agree with this. Assuming this defensive shot will be within 20 ft, as long as you can hit something you'll have your desired effect.
  17. jonnyc

    jonnyc Well-Known Member

    Is this really a serious question? If you have the need of any rifle for a particular defense situation, the problem is now well beyond bullet choice.
  18. DeMilled

    DeMilled Well-Known Member

    I think about the best you are going to find are the Reduced Ricochet Limited Penetration, Winchester PDX1, or a Hornady TAP.





    Military type Ball Ammo will go through plenty of walls.

    Ammo designed for expansion will not.

    Buy the proper rounds and 308 for defense can be counted on to stop the
    threat very well and penetrate fewer walls than 45 ACP JHP.
  19. fragout

    fragout Well-Known Member

    After reading a similar 3 page thread regarding 5.56mm defensive ammo, I was impressed by the work put into it by the various members here that contributed to that thread. ( A good read by the way)

    I was simply hoping for similar results in regards to 7.62x51mm.

    Thanks to the folks that contributed here.
  20. Arizona_Mike

    Arizona_Mike Well-Known Member

    I would not use 7.62x51 as an intended home defense or even urban defense environment. Out in the wild, if you hit him you are pretty much going to do the job.

    I love 5.56 for home defense and police work since it performs so poorly on construction material. I keep a shotgun for home defense but if my house were more crowded (a goal of mine), I would probably use a 16" AR loaded with Winchester Ranger 64-grain Power-Points. They are excellent in flesh and won't even penetrate a single layer of 5/8 drywall.

    These drywall tests are very interesting: http://how-i-did-it.org/drywall/test-parameters.html

    I would not use a short barrel AR unless it was a 300 BLK using 22/30 cal sabots like the old Remington Accelerator loaded to .223 like velocities.

    If I absolutely had to use an AR-10 vs an AR-15 for home defense (like if I was in some God-forsaken place like Maryland), I'd load up some sabots with Power-Points. The faster the better.

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