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Join Date: December 23, 2002
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Mousegun Photo / Discussion Thread
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Serious discussion of Mouseguns and the role they play as being a viable tool in the toolbox. Rule 1. Have a Gun. The reality of life is - Life is Life. One never knows the where or when of next encounter - CRSam While we all know to dress around a gun, sometimes "comforting" means a mousegun due to limits on attire, or setting. While we all know to "have a plan, a backup plan" these plans may include a mousegun. While we train, and practice retention drills, if matters are such, and have gone South, the mousegun is just another tool in the toolbox. Pictures are always nice, some of these mouseguns are just neat little buggers and I am even going to say some are just downright cute. Lately I have messing with the NAA Mini-Revolver, in .22 lr, with 1 1/8" barrel with the factory lanyard ring. Over the years I have aquainted myself with this gun quite a bit, and have lots of trigger time. Semi-Autos, I like the Beretta Jetfire, with its smooth trigger, being reliable, easy to maintain, inspect, load, makes safe, and this little bugger is accurate. I will stop now, and wait for pictures and input from others. I don't want any cheese, I just want out of the trap - anon. Steve
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Join Date: December 20, 2002
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Rule one... have a gun.
I have a few... lets start with the old ones: Baby Browning: ![]() ![]() Compared to a 1911: ![]() What can I say... it's a Browning design... even has a "loaded chamber indicator" "empty" ![]() ready to rock ![]() Doing the paperwork on one of these guns a guy walked in, looked down, and asked me deadpan: "you play cards?"
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Join Date: December 20, 2002
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I'm going to get some better pictures and will do a mini range report for you, sm.
My favorite "answer the door" gun is the Keltec P32. Lightweight, better caliber than the 25ACP, and IMO reliable. But again, I just think the old guns are pretty and represent a bygone era... I mean, check out the case hardening on the Colt Vest Pocket: ![]() I'll be back.
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Nice!
Sven, Thanks! Great Pics! You are so correct in regard to the attention to detail, craftsmanship, metallurgy and features these guns of a bygone era have. Steve
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Join Date: August 28, 2006
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Another mousegun lover signing in. CZ-70 in .32. A little large for a modern mousegun, but a lot of fun to shoot. Easy to disassemble for cleaning - mash in takedown button, pull back of slide up and back. Off it goes.
Sights aren't fiber-optic or adjustable - but the notch and post are pretty quick to acquire for me. Not the prettiest gun. Not the smallest. Not the most powerful by any means. Still, a fun and cheap gun that works. Also love the safety/decocker setup. Taurus has got it on their Beretta 92 copy... must buy one of those some day. Come to appreciate DA/SA pistols, too. Really like to buy one of those old, tiny .25s - Baby Browning or Colt. Must save up for one. Nice size, old gun. Then I'd like to get a .38 snubby. Maybe a bodyguard model. I find that it's an extremely easy gun to haul around in the pocket. Great for the Texas outdoors - you don't want to carry a heavy gun around when you're chopping wood, mowing, etc - and it's nice to have something to use from a distance when a snake comes around (two footed or no-footed variety). |
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Grandmother's Galesi model 9 .25acp mfg 1947(sorry theres nothing for size comparasin in the pic, but it's essentially the size of Sven's Browning) Fun too shoot, but I never carry it.The safety is REAL easy to switch off, so I'm just not comfortable with it for carry, but plinking, its fine.
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Join Date: April 19, 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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My only mousegun is the P3AT. Its the gun I carry when I can't carry anything larger :
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Last edited by 230RN; December 3, 2007 at 03:20 AM. |
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Join Date: December 17, 2005
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These are my two. I've taken to use the term "minigun". Sounds more impressive, don't you think?
Anyway, the top one is the Seecamp I carry often and the bottom one the Walther TPH which I've never actually carried, although I have two holsters for it. The twenty dollar bill serves two purposes: it shows the scale of the two guns and represents the cost of a box of ammo these days.
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Holy crap. Sven, is your wallet actually... bigger than that Baby Browning? Dang, you must need a kickstand when you sit down..
The Baby Browning seems kind of like a "behind the ear" gun. Not that you'd actually have to put it behind someone's ear to do them injury, you could just carry the thing behind your ear and forget about it, like a pen. No mouseguns of my own, but y'all's is nice. ~GnSx
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Join Date: November 3, 2006
Location: The Land of Northern Hospitality and Southern Efficiency
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Mousegun Infestation
Here's what I have:
Left Column: East German Makarov (9X18), CZ 24 (9X17), Kel-Tec P3AT (9X17) Center Column: Charter Arms Undercover 32S&W Long, Taurus 94 (22 LR) Right Column: Bulgarian Makarov (9X18), Taurus PT22 (22 LR) Some are larger Mouseguns than others, but they still squeak. |
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Join Date: December 26, 2002
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No pic, but I have a Beretta Tomcat. The trigger pull in DA is long and heavy. It has jammed a couple of times, even with fmj. Also the firing pin in prone to breakage. I've been thinking about getting something else, but not sure what. Thinking about a Walther PPK in .380.
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Join Date: December 26, 2002
Location: Middle of the Mitten!, Michigan
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NAA Mini Black Widow .22 LR/.22 WMR here... (I also have a set of "mother of pearl" grips too!) LOL
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Join Date: February 12, 2004
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I have a Berretta 950 .25 that I carried in my front shirt pocket while working graveyard in the bad parts of town.
I depended on it for a couple of years to get me back to my truck where the real guns were kept It's in the back of the safe now with a broken ejector and faulty safety. Everytime I see one of these threads I think about having it repaired. But everytime I see one of these threads someone mentions a NAA .22 and I think I'd rather just buy one of those
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230RN
Your post made our day!!! That rascal's going up on the fridge...just too freakin' great!! Thanks!!
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Ah, nevermind.
Images won't size correctly.
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Join Date: January 11, 2006
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So, 230RN, does that mouse carry in Condition 3 or is it clearing a malfunction?
What does a decent-condition Baby Browning or Colt Vest Pocket go for these days, on average? It would be almost completely useless to me, but I must admit, I think they're kind of neat. |
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Neat pics and discussion!
Responsible Firearm Owner - Reminder.
Pretty much aimed at the New Folks. 1. We are not advocating mouseguns as so much discussing another tool in the toolbox. Just as we would not advocate using a .22 cal for deer hunting. Applicable laws, regulations, and just good old Common Sense says to use the right tool for the task. 2. Example: I priced a NIB NAA .22 mini-revolver for $174 the other night. Good used Police Trade-In Model 10s can be found for just a tad more money. Internally pristine with exterior wear. If YOUR environment, attire, tasks and the like allows you to use a bigger gun, of a larger caliber do it! 3. Aw Phooey. Sentimental me. Darn Mouseguns have Collecting Appeal. I just feel some things need to be preserved, respected, and passed forward to future generations. Take a note of some these mouseguns, the metallurgy, attention to detail, features, craftsmanship and all. Neat huh? Fun is having two NAA mini-revolvers and folks not knowing you have the second one. Fire 10 rounds as quick as you can and when folks go "huh?" just casually mention you were using speed-loaders. Steve
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How to defend against Mice with Guns
Look below...
This is my answer to the mouse with a gun. |
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Join Date: December 29, 2002
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Bereta 950 Jetfire .25 ACP.
Just the sight of it has caused a couple of "poor, underprivileged victims of social oppression" to reconsider their plans.
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Join Date: December 26, 2002
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I have .32s. A hard chrome P-32, a pre-WWII H&R Premier that I found in my father's garage last week (he says I left it there - nope) and an ancient Iver Johnson .32 that might be a half-inch bigger or so than a P-32 due to the long barrel. It's a tiny little thing.
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Join Date: August 28, 2006
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"What does a decent-condition Baby Browning or Colt Vest Pocket go for these days, on average?"
Around $400 in stores, it seems. Sometimes more, sometimes less on the auction sites... expect to pay $300-400 for one, I reckon. |
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Join Date: December 9, 2005
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Mousegun? was-a mousegun?
This is my primary carry weapon. I practice with it often and I can put em' where I want em' with this gun.
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