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Old April 20, 2010, 02:55 PM   #2401
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Thanks akhooters7 and JustsayMo. I have all that I need. It's not so much a specific model as it is it's capacity and handeling that I'm concerned about. I've found places where for like $120 they can shorten (and recrown) barrel and magazine tube and put in a new dove tail
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Old April 20, 2010, 03:01 PM   #2402
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Have any of you found someone who can sucessfully, safely, and reliably modify the loading gate on a 336?

I have fallen head over heals in the last six months with my 336C. I bought it a year or two ago and am finally getting around to using it. I put XS sights on it and my sweetie bought me a Leuopold 2.5X scout scope (my eyes seem to be having issues lately). I just love the thing and look forward to shooting more than just about anything I own.

The only thing I don't like is stuffing shells in it. I find that little feed gate stiff and getting the last shell in often pinches me a bit. I mean the little springy piece of metal on the side that needs to bend it. The sping tube spring is fine. I've shot about 500 rounds through it and I still find it to be a bit of a nuissance to load. I'm spoiled by my Mossberg 500 shotgun loading exerpience which I know is an apples and oragnes comparison. Has anyone had a gunsmith modify this so it's easier to load and it's still stone cold reliable? Can this be done reliably? I talked to the local gunsmith who I really trust and he didn't seem all that positive about making a modification.

Many thanks for your advice and feedback.
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Old April 20, 2010, 08:42 PM   #2403
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I have a Marlin 30TK (TK means it was made for K-Mart) with an 18" barrel and half magazine. It has a straight stock and the push through safety. It is the handiest 30-30 I've ever owned and shot.
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Old April 21, 2010, 01:17 AM   #2404
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The only thing I don't like is stuffing shells in it. I find that little feed gate stiff and getting the last shell in often pinches me a bit.
I know what you mean, Sheepdog; took me a while to figure out how to do that without pinching fingers.

I've finally practiced enough to know how to do it with no pinch, but I don't think I can describe it in words. Takes knowing how to push that cartridge in with just the right part of my finger on the very outside edge of the shell's rim - just barely touching it enough so that it doesn't slip - so that when the gate slams, there's no pinch.

Here's an interesting little 15 sec video on loading and unloading an 1895 that may help.

I'll confess, I still can't do the unloading part on my 336.
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Old April 21, 2010, 02:52 AM   #2405
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hello everbody

i have a marlin 336 rc letter g 1950 model waffle top what wood it be worth in excelent condition plus is there a scope i could use without drilling holes in the top
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Old April 21, 2010, 03:09 PM   #2406
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Thanks for the info Nematocyst. I did look at the video. Impressive. I didn't even know you could unload it that way. Do you know of anyone who's had there feedport modified? In general, the only thing I change on firearms are the sights. Otherwise I really try and keep them stock. I'm very reluctant to do so. Just curious if it's even possible. I will continue to practice loading like you described.
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Old April 22, 2010, 03:39 PM   #2407
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I have an opportunity to take a four day defensive rifle class in the a few months. I've done semi-auto at these in the past. In order to become more familiar with my 336 I was thinking of taking it to the class despite the cost of ammo.

We will shoot about 500 rounds over 4 days. I've never shot this much ammo in four days. Do you think the 336 will hold up?

Also, how about cleaning? It will be copper jacketed bullets. What's the most rounds you've gone through between cleanings? I'm not a fanatic when it comes to cleaning. I suspect it won't require much cleaning at night because all of the hot gases and "crud" is kept in the barrel.

Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated. This is certainly one way to get better at feeding the rifle.
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Old April 22, 2010, 03:48 PM   #2408
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Maybe this article will be of some help to you. BTW Ashley Emerson is the person who invented the XS sight system that is so popular on leverguns today.
http://www.leverguns.com/articles/thunder_ranch.htm
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Old April 22, 2010, 06:59 PM   #2409
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Sheepdog,
VERY cool, I hope you'll share a detailed report with us when you get back.

As for cleaning I'm guessing the 336 will do just fine. I doubt a majority of them get cleaned after hunting season and I've personally run over 200 through mine - both cast and jacketed - during a weekend of shooting without cleaning it.

The only failure I've ever had on a 336 was the first time I took a used 1960 vintage 336 to the range I had just purchased and it had a broken firing pin. I'm guessing the previous owner had some kids that dry-fired it to death. It was an easy fix - a couple of screwdrivers and some punches to drive out the pins.

Make sure all the screws are snug and I'm guessing the 336 will run fine the whole time.

Let us know the best way you found to carry extra ammo.

Best of luck to you. Show them AK dudes what a cowboy can do!
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Old April 22, 2010, 09:44 PM   #2410
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Thanks 336A for the article. It was very very cool. I do have XS sights on it as well as the Leupold 2.5X Scout scope on Leupold quick release rings. I've mostly been an iron sight shooter. I feel very confident with the lower power optic on it.

Thanks JustsayMo for the cleaning and robustness info. I've never been a big fan of dry firing. Yes, I know it provides extra trigger time and such. Yes, people say it doesn't hurt the firearms. Somehow, I am not convinced it is good for the firearm despite plenty of people having done it a bunch.

I will provide a range report after I take the class. I've got several different ways to feed it and I will let you know what works best.
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Old April 23, 2010, 04:22 AM   #2411
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Are lever action carbines really just for fun?

This boy, I say, this boy needs a little help.

(My response is #24.)
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Old April 23, 2010, 12:32 PM   #2412
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I know its way late to be joining in on this thread but here is a couple of pics of an early 336 out of a ranch sale.





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Old April 23, 2010, 02:56 PM   #2413
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Never too late to join the club, Loosenock. Welcome.

And you did it right with pics.

Wow, that's a beaut.

Trying to figure out that ... device tacked to the fore end. (?)
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Old April 23, 2010, 04:39 PM   #2414
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That is a crack repair.

This ol' rifle has a ballard barrel. I shoot cast bullets from it. Very accurate, mild and a hoot.

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Old April 23, 2010, 07:58 PM   #2415
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I have seen pics of that rifle before. Where??
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Old April 30, 2010, 03:27 AM   #2416
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I absolutely love my 336C. Its a little over a year old and it serves two purposes - social plinking and hunting. Its got a 20" barrel. I am seriously considering having it shortened to a 16.5" barrel. Given its role, the reduction in ammo capacity isn't a problem. I suspect accuracy won't suffer for hunting. Its not a collectable. If I don't like it, I can always buy a new barrel and convert it back.

What are your thoughts?

I'm thinking of using brockmansrifles. Have any of you had work done there?

Many thanks for your input.
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Old April 30, 2010, 03:33 AM   #2417
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I absolutely love my 336C. Its a little over a year old and it serves two purposes - social plinking and hunting. Its got a 20" barrel. I am seriously considering having it shortened to a 16.5" barrel. Given its role, the reduction in ammo capacity isn't a problem. I suspect accuracy won't suffer for hunting. Its not a collectable. If I don't like it, I can always buy a new barrel and convert it back.

What are your thoughts?

I'm thinking of using brockmansrifles. Have any of you had work done there?

Many thanks for your input.
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Old April 30, 2010, 03:40 AM   #2418
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I am seriously considering having it shortened to a 16.5" barrel.
If I've done my math right, shortening it to 17.5" will only lose 1 rnd and still be much more handle-able.

Going down to 16.5" will lose 2 rnds. It's a matter of taste, me thinks.
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Old April 30, 2010, 08:23 AM   #2419
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Nem, my 16.25" 336 SDT held 5 in the magazine.

Sheepdog, The Marauder length 336's are about as handy as a rifle can be. Packing it around in the field or use in tight quarters is where it shines. If my eyes were good enough, I'd still own one.
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Old April 30, 2010, 12:34 PM   #2420
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Just purchased a Marlin 336c .30 .30.

This is my second one. First one I received before I joined the Army. My Dad gave it to me for Christmas. I never got a chance to shoot it much and while I was in the service, my brother found it and sold it. I'm still ticked.

So, when I saw it, I had to buy it. Picks will be coming soon.
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Old April 30, 2010, 08:33 PM   #2421
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Nem, my 16.25" 336 SDT held 5 in the magazine.

Sheepdog, The Marauder length 336's are about as handy as a rifle can be. Packing it around in the field or use in tight quarters is where it shines. If my eyes were good enough, I'd still own one.
Nematocyst, Justsaymo, thanks for the feed back. This is good to hear. With the 20" barrel, I can get about a 3" group at 100 yards - good enough for hunting and social plinking. Do you think things will change much with a 16.5" barrel?

Also, any idea how much velocity I can expect to loose in going from a 20" to a 16.5" barrel? I'm shooting the Hornady LeverEvolution. I suspect for ethical hunting shots it will be a moot point but I'm curious.

Have a great weekend.
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Old April 30, 2010, 09:09 PM   #2422
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If you put the bullet where it supposed to go the critter won't know the difference in velocity. At reasonable and ethical hunting ranges within your skill level you have all the killing power you need with the shorter barrel.

Too many folks buy flat shooting calibers with the expectation to make them more lethal at range. I've witnessed far more misses with ubermagnum cartridges than I have with old standbys. Accuracy and penetration = meat. Energy, ballistic tables are meaningless unless you can put it where goes.
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Old May 2, 2010, 07:47 PM   #2423
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Sort of late to the party...but I just brought a new baby home; cleaned it, and put it to bed. 336C in 30-30 Win. My first lever gun, but I've been wanting one for some time. Will be keeping my eyes and ears open for pointers and tips.
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Old May 2, 2010, 08:33 PM   #2424
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WGaynor and TDooley, welcome to the club.
We love new members, especially when they post pics.

Mo, here's a question for you.

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The Marauder length 336's are about as handy as a rifle can be. Packing it around in the field or use in tight quarters is where it shines. If my eyes were good enough, I'd still own one.
Can you explain that emphasized part there, please?

Since a shorter carbine would seem best for closer quarters, short shots, it seems to me that would be a better rifle for those of us with decreasing vision - assuming the appropriate aperture sights or scout scope.

Now, of course, that presumes you're not going to be making 150 yd shots with it.

Am I missing your point?

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Old May 2, 2010, 10:11 PM   #2425
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Thanks.

Still new, and I've already got a question. Figured maybe you guys (and gals?) knew the answer.

On the stock, there's a white dot with a black dot in the center that's just above the rear sling swivel. Anybody know what that is?
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