THR Remington 1858 Club - Page 3

Loosenock · January 10, 2011, 11:41 AM

I too prefer the Colts. But you've just gotta have a couple of Remmies to show folks what'cha talk'n about.

napp · January 10, 2011, 11:56 AM

I spent 28 years living in different places at the whim of the U.S. Army. As an Infantryman, many of my stateside assignments were at Fort Benning, GA. I was assigned in GA when I retired; so I saw no reason to leave.

My original home was a neighboring state of GA. Actually, the second best college football team from that state is playing for the BCS National Championship tonight.

Ultravox · January 10, 2011, 01:20 PM

I'm new to black powder and my first revolver is a Pietta 1858 New Army Brass Frame.

Just bought it and can't wait for it to warm up outside so I can go shoot it.

I've already torn it down, cleaned and lubed it, so it's all good to go.

Otony · January 10, 2011, 01:48 PM

I will have to take a photo, but I have two currently. first is a 5.5" Uberti .44 with the newer forged frame, and the second is a 5.5" Uberti in .38 Special. The .38 is due to arrive here in a few days and I am beside myself in anticipation!

I am looking for the right stainless steel 1858 to replace one I foolishly sold back in the 1970s. Taylor's is importing the 1858 in .38-40, which sounds like one to own as well.

I sold off a forged frame Uberti a couple of years ago that had a color case-hardened frame, another big mistake. I have come to the conclusion that Remmies are for keeping, not for selling!

Shoot The Moon · January 10, 2011, 01:51 PM

#1 Shoot The Moon #2 TomADC #3 fogg64 #4 mykeal #5 romel #6 kwhi43 #7rdstrain49 #8 junkman_01 #9 AaronE #10 jtscuba02 #11 Prairie Dawg
#12 Nalioth #13 Mizar #14 BHP FAN #15 napp #16 jaymo #17 theotherwaldo
#18 berkley #19 Oyeboten #20 messerist #21 ojh #22 txgunsuscg #23 WALKERs210 #24 BConklin #25 ClemBert #26 Hellgate #27 dtvburns #28 Loosenock #29 Ultravox #30 Otony

Welcome gents! If work would spare me for a while, I will create a map of the world with our various locations - along with all the folks from the United States, I think we now have representation from Bulgaria, Spain, Finland, England and Canada.

Loosenock · January 10, 2011, 01:55 PM

Octony said:

"I sold off a forged frame Uberti a couple of years ago that had a color case-hardened frame, another big mistake. I have come to the conclusion that Remmies are for keeping, not for selling!".

How can you tell if your frame is forged or not?

Otony · January 10, 2011, 02:03 PM

I am not completely sure. both of mine were sold as such and have markings on the box to support the type of manufacture.

I can understand how a forged part might be considered stronger or preferable to some folks, but for the life of me the cast frame Ubertis have been around for what, 40+ years with no issues. I think the forged frames may have been introduced to better handle the cartridge conversions available directly from Uberti?

jtscuba02 · January 10, 2011, 02:06 PM

@ Napp, I have been at Bragg for 11 years now and on occasion had to make the trip to Benning for schools and such. In fact, I am supposed to PCS here. I'm from SC and would rather stay at Bragg. I know all to well about the sacrifices you have to make to stay close to home.

@Otony, I am considering selling a black rifle to facilitate my future BP purchases. Don't think I would ever consider selling any of my BP weapons. I have become attached to them. And my kid seems to like them too.

Loosenock · January 10, 2011, 02:16 PM

@Octony

I searched the web and what I gather is that all Uberti '58s manufactured in 2007 and after are forged frames. So consider the source. That would be a date code [CB]. The date code on mine is [CD] meaning 2009 and that it would be a "Forged Frame".

Interesting to know. Thanks

Otony · January 10, 2011, 02:28 PM

Good information Loosenock. I for one would be most interested in finding out why Uberti felt the need to go to forged after all these years, but since both of mine are so made I guess I won't worry about it too much!

Mizar/Boris, could you please tell us a bit more about your little grip adaptor. It appears to be home made from wood, am I correct?

missuramoss · January 10, 2011, 03:37 PM

Hmmm..after lookin at the roster, guess mine werent good enough to join huh?...lol..just jivin...some damn fine lookin Remmys here!

Shoot The Moon · January 10, 2011, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by missuramoss

Hmmm..after lookin at the roster, guess mine werent good enough to join huh?...lol..just jivin...some damn fine lookin Remmys here!

Eeeek! missuramoss, my sincere apologies!!

Revised roster coming in a moment.........

Shoot The Moon · January 10, 2011, 03:44 PM

Roster duly corrected.. Missuramoss is reinstated!

#1 Shoot The Moon #2 TomADC #3 fogg64 #4 mykeal #5 romel #6 kwhi43 #7rdstrain49 #8 junkman_01 #9 AaronE #10 jtscuba02 #11 Prairie Dawg
#12 Nalioth #13 Mizar #14 BHP FAN #15 napp #16 jaymo #17 theotherwaldo
#18 berkley #19 Oyeboten #20 messerist #21 missuramoss #22 ojh #23 txgunsuscg #24 WALKERs210 #25 BConklin #26 ClemBert #27 Hellgate #28 dtvburns #29 Loosenock #30 Ultravox #31 Otony

The list is gettin' long....

Mizar · January 10, 2011, 03:46 PM

Otony, yes it is home made from a scrap piece of walnut. It is attached to the frame ala T-grip style. Does good job of taking my middle finger's knuckle away from the trigger guard and it is giving me a more uniform grip.

Boris

45-70 Ranger · January 11, 2011, 12:50 PM

Morning,

Been bustin' caps since around '65. Here's a tiny shot of my .44. It's the best I could do with a camera in the phone I carry. Now if the attachment worked I'll be thrilled. I'm no computer whiz so it many not even work! But can I still come and play here with the other Remington pistoleros?

Wade

Shoot The Moon · January 11, 2011, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 45-70 Ranger

Morning,

Been bustin' caps since around '65. Here's a tiny shot of my .44. It's the best I could do with a camera in the phone I carry. Now if the attachment worked I'll be thrilled. I'm no computer whiz so it many not even work! But can I still come and play here with the other Remington pistoleros?

Wade

45-70 Ranger, welcome - that surely is a tiny picture, but it posted just fine. Is it a Uberti copy or one of the others?

Tinpan58 · January 11, 2011, 07:28 PM

Here is my .44 & .36

1858remington · January 12, 2011, 12:33 AM

By null at 2008-12-10

I added a kirst pin retaining catch to keep the cylinder pin in place.

1858remington · January 12, 2011, 12:35 AM

By null at 2008-12-10

I kinda like the 1858 remmie's

napp · January 12, 2011, 11:02 AM

Are you by any chance related to Kenneth (Ken) Null? Sorry for the thread jack.

45-70 Ranger · January 12, 2011, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoot The Moon

45-70 Ranger, welcome - that surely is a tiny picture, but it posted just fine. Is it a Uberti copy or one of the others?

STM, that's a Pietta replica I picked up after the first owner bent the basepin and locked it up. Got it cheap and the repair was easy. This is my 5th Remington, wish I kept the others, but I was a gunsmith/dealer and when an offer was made in those days and the price was right....sold! I could kick myself.....But still have a few charcoal burner wheelguns and this one has become my "go to gun" when I want a revolver that can hit close and hard. My old 2nd. Mod Dragoon pouts as we speak!

Wade

Smokepole14 · January 12, 2011, 04:03 PM

Here's Mine 1858 Remington Pietta New Model Army

Shoot The Moon · January 12, 2011, 04:24 PM

Membership Update!

#1 Shoot The Moon #2 TomADC #3 fogg64 #4 mykeal #5 romel #6 kwhi43 #7rdstrain49 #8 junkman_01 #9 AaronE #10 jtscuba02 #11 Prairie Dawg
#12 Nalioth #13 Mizar #14 BHP FAN #15 napp #16 jaymo #17 theotherwaldo
#18 berkley #19 Oyeboten #20 messerist #21 missuramoss #22 ojh #23 txgunsuscg #24 WALKERs210 #25 BConklin #26 ClemBert #27 Hellgate #28 dtvburns #29 Loosenock #30 Ultravox #31 Otony #32 45-70 Ranger #33 Tinpan 58 #34 1858 Remington #35 Smokepole14

Welcome, gentlemen!

1858 Remington, that's a fine collection - what's the matte grey finish on that snubbie?

Howdy Doody · January 12, 2011, 05:01 PM

Shoot The Moon, that Euroarms is a really nice 58. Do they all have the trigger return like that? I think that is the first one I have observed.
I have a pair of Pietta 58's blued, 8" barrels and some spare cylinders. I'll get a picture of them to post, but in the meantime, how about this one for big game?

It would look real official if the shooter at least had glasses and ear protection, but it is a funny picture and I do not know the details on if it is made of wood or what.

craiso · January 12, 2011, 05:15 PM

Finally a club I can join

. Here is my modified target model. I hated the front sight so I had a smith add a dovetail for a less obtrusive one

.

January 10, 2011, 11:56 AM	#52
napp Member Join Date: December 3, 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 61	Jaymo I spent 28 years living in different places at the whim of the U.S. Army. As an Infantryman, many of my stateside assignments were at Fort Benning, GA. I was assigned in GA when I retired; so I saw no reason to leave. My original home was a neighboring state of GA. Actually, the second best college football team from that state is playing for the BCS National Championship tonight. __________________ napp

January 10, 2011, 01:20 PM	#53
Ultravox Member Join Date: January 10, 2011 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 165	New BP shooter here I'm new to black powder and my first revolver is a Pietta 1858 New Army Brass Frame. Just bought it and can't wait for it to warm up outside so I can go shoot it. I've already torn it down, cleaned and lubed it, so it's all good to go.

January 10, 2011, 01:48 PM	#54
Otony Member Join Date: January 19, 2003 Location: Pacific Northwest, on the Dry Side Posts: 492	I will have to take a photo, but I have two currently. first is a 5.5" Uberti .44 with the newer forged frame, and the second is a 5.5" Uberti in .38 Special. The .38 is due to arrive here in a few days and I am beside myself in anticipation! I am looking for the right stainless steel 1858 to replace one I foolishly sold back in the 1970s. Taylor's is importing the 1858 in .38-40, which sounds like one to own as well. I sold off a forged frame Uberti a couple of years ago that had a color case-hardened frame, another big mistake. I have come to the conclusion that Remmies are for keeping, not for selling! __________________ Otony

January 10, 2011, 01:51 PM	#55
Shoot The Moon Member Join Date: October 29, 2010 Location: England at the moment Posts: 161	#1 Shoot The Moon #2 TomADC #3 fogg64 #4 mykeal #5 romel #6 kwhi43 #7rdstrain49 #8 junkman_01 #9 AaronE #10 jtscuba02 #11 Prairie Dawg #12 Nalioth #13 Mizar #14 BHP FAN #15 napp #16 jaymo #17 theotherwaldo #18 berkley #19 Oyeboten #20 messerist #21 ojh #22 txgunsuscg #23 WALKERs210 #24 BConklin #25 ClemBert #26 Hellgate #27 dtvburns #28 Loosenock #29 Ultravox #30 Otony Welcome gents! If work would spare me for a while, I will create a map of the world with our various locations - along with all the folks from the United States, I think we now have representation from Bulgaria, Spain, Finland, England and Canada. Last edited by Shoot The Moon; January 10, 2011 at 01:53 PM. Reason: Adding #30 who joined while I was typing! :D

January 10, 2011, 02:03 PM	#57
Otony Member Join Date: January 19, 2003 Location: Pacific Northwest, on the Dry Side Posts: 492	I am not completely sure. both of mine were sold as such and have markings on the box to support the type of manufacture. I can understand how a forged part might be considered stronger or preferable to some folks, but for the life of me the cast frame Ubertis have been around for what, 40+ years with no issues. I think the forged frames may have been introduced to better handle the cartridge conversions available directly from Uberti? __________________ Otony

January 10, 2011, 11:41 AM	#51
Loosenock Member Join Date: January 2, 2010 Location: Colorado Posts: 237	I too prefer the Colts. But you've just gotta have a couple of Remmies to show folks what'cha talk'n about.

January 10, 2011, 01:55 PM	#56
Loosenock Member Join Date: January 2, 2010 Location: Colorado Posts: 237	Octony said: "I sold off a forged frame Uberti a couple of years ago that had a color case-hardened frame, another big mistake. I have come to the conclusion that Remmies are for keeping, not for selling!". How can you tell if your frame is forged or not?

January 10, 2011, 02:06 PM	#58
jtscuba02 Member Join Date: June 10, 2010 Location: Raeford, NC(Ft Bragg) Posts: 124	@ Napp, I have been at Bragg for 11 years now and on occasion had to make the trip to Benning for schools and such. In fact, I am supposed to PCS here. I'm from SC and would rather stay at Bragg. I know all to well about the sacrifices you have to make to stay close to home. @Otony, I am considering selling a black rifle to facilitate my future BP purchases. Don't think I would ever consider selling any of my BP weapons. I have become attached to them. And my kid seems to like them too.

January 10, 2011, 02:16 PM	#59
Loosenock Member Join Date: January 2, 2010 Location: Colorado Posts: 237	@Octony I searched the web and what I gather is that all Uberti '58s manufactured in 2007 and after are forged frames. So consider the source. That would be a date code [CB]. The date code on mine is [CD] meaning 2009 and that it would be a "Forged Frame". Interesting to know. Thanks

January 10, 2011, 02:28 PM	#60
Otony Member Join Date: January 19, 2003 Location: Pacific Northwest, on the Dry Side Posts: 492	Good information Loosenock. I for one would be most interested in finding out why Uberti felt the need to go to forged after all these years, but since both of mine are so made I guess I won't worry about it too much! Mizar/Boris, could you please tell us a bit more about your little grip adaptor. It appears to be home made from wood, am I correct? __________________ Otony

January 10, 2011, 03:37 PM	#61
missuramoss Member Join Date: March 27, 2009 Location: The great state of Missoura Posts: 134	Hmmm..after lookin at the roster, guess mine werent good enough to join huh?...lol..just jivin...some damn fine lookin Remmys here!

January 10, 2011, 03:44 PM	#63
Shoot The Moon Member Join Date: October 29, 2010 Location: England at the moment Posts: 161	Roster duly corrected.. Missuramoss is reinstated! #1 Shoot The Moon #2 TomADC #3 fogg64 #4 mykeal #5 romel #6 kwhi43 #7rdstrain49 #8 junkman_01 #9 AaronE #10 jtscuba02 #11 Prairie Dawg #12 Nalioth #13 Mizar #14 BHP FAN #15 napp #16 jaymo #17 theotherwaldo #18 berkley #19 Oyeboten #20 messerist #21 missuramoss #22 ojh #23 txgunsuscg #24 WALKERs210 #25 BConklin #26 ClemBert #27 Hellgate #28 dtvburns #29 Loosenock #30 Ultravox #31 Otony The list is gettin' long....

January 10, 2011, 03:46 PM	#64
Mizar Member Join Date: March 23, 2004 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Posts: 458	Otony, yes it is home made from a scrap piece of walnut. It is attached to the frame ala T-grip style. Does good job of taking my middle finger's knuckle away from the trigger guard and it is giving me a more uniform grip. Boris

January 12, 2011, 12:33 AM	#68
1858remington Member Join Date: October 5, 2004 Location: Delaware Posts: 288	By null at 2008-12-10 I added a kirst pin retaining catch to keep the cylinder pin in place.

January 12, 2011, 12:35 AM	#69
1858remington Member Join Date: October 5, 2004 Location: Delaware Posts: 288	By null at 2008-12-10 I kinda like the 1858 remmie's

January 12, 2011, 11:02 AM	#70
napp Member Join Date: December 3, 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 61	1858remington Are you by any chance related to Kenneth (Ken) Null? Sorry for the thread jack. __________________ napp

January 12, 2011, 04:24 PM	#73
Shoot The Moon Member Join Date: October 29, 2010 Location: England at the moment Posts: 161	Membership Update! #1 Shoot The Moon #2 TomADC #3 fogg64 #4 mykeal #5 romel #6 kwhi43 #7rdstrain49 #8 junkman_01 #9 AaronE #10 jtscuba02 #11 Prairie Dawg #12 Nalioth #13 Mizar #14 BHP FAN #15 napp #16 jaymo #17 theotherwaldo #18 berkley #19 Oyeboten #20 messerist #21 missuramoss #22 ojh #23 txgunsuscg #24 WALKERs210 #25 BConklin #26 ClemBert #27 Hellgate #28 dtvburns #29 Loosenock #30 Ultravox #31 Otony #32 45-70 Ranger #33 Tinpan 58 #34 1858 Remington #35 Smokepole14 Welcome, gentlemen! 1858 Remington, that's a fine collection - what's the matte grey finish on that snubbie?

January 12, 2011, 05:01 PM	#74
Howdy Doody Member Join Date: January 10, 2006 Location: Bakersfield CA Posts: 58	Shoot The Moon, that Euroarms is a really nice 58. Do they all have the trigger return like that? I think that is the first one I have observed. I have a pair of Pietta 58's blued, 8" barrels and some spare cylinders. I'll get a picture of them to post, but in the meantime, how about this one for big game? It would look real official if the shooter at least had glasses and ear protection, but it is a funny picture and I do not know the details on if it is made of wood or what. __________________ yer pard, Howdy

January 12, 2011, 05:15 PM	#75
craiso Member Join Date: January 19, 2010 Location: Northwest Missouri Posts: 31	Finally a club I can join . Here is my modified target model. I hated the front sight so I had a smith add a dovetail for a less obtrusive one . __________________ Christopher