.41 Mag Association

336A · June 20, 2011, 04:18 PM

Since the forgotten middle magnum don't get much press I figured why not start a .41 mag association. This would be the perfect place to share favorite loads guns and so on. So lets go .41 addicts lets get this ball rolling.

**1911Tuner** · June 20, 2011, 04:38 PM

I'm in! The .41 Magnum has long been my all-time favorite revolver cartridge.

Bush Pilot · June 20, 2011, 05:22 PM

One more here. We need a secret sign so we can identify each other, maybe 4 fingers on one hand and 1 on the other hand pointing downward.

336A · June 20, 2011, 05:42 PM

Has anyone messed around with the 170gr bullets from Sierra? It seems as though it would make a decent SD bullet for the .41 mag.

**1911Tuner** · June 20, 2011, 06:12 PM

I have. Good bullet, but the Remington 170 is more destructive in soft targets.

1500 fps is doable in a 4-inch barrel, but it's...a little crisp.

MMCSRET · June 20, 2011, 06:18 PM

I'm in!! I like cast bullets in my 41's. I have 4 different molds and find it very satisfying.

**1911Tuner** · June 20, 2011, 06:24 PM

Ain't fired a jacketed bullet in a .41 Magnum in over 15 years.

Us boolit casters call'em full length gas checks.

336A · June 20, 2011, 07:03 PM

So what cast bullets are you folks using in your your .41's. I've got some test loads made up using the common 215gr SWC from Leadhead. I have ten each ready to go with 8.5gr, 8.7gr, 8.9gr and 9.1gr of Unique.

**1911Tuner** · June 20, 2011, 07:29 PM

My own, dropped from the RCBS 210-grain mould. Alloy is my own concoction, too. Approximately 3% antimony...2% tin...and 95% lead. Good from 750 to 1350 fps and no lead fouling beyond a light lead wash that cleans up in two passes...in and out...with a dry .44 caliber brush.

With 8.5 grains Unique, through the Model 58, the chronograph insists that the velocity is 1050 fps and nearly breaks 1100 through the short Blackhawk. Cuts cloverleaf groups at 25 yards if better eyes than mine look at the sights.

**Walkalong** · June 20, 2011, 08:40 PM

Count me in.

Redhawk

Smith 57

Not real experienced, but definitely a fan.

Hunt480 · June 20, 2011, 08:52 PM

I got a 41 mag NMBH I have literally wore the blue off of the barrel from general use and woods carry for the last 20 years or so. It has been on some long hikes and even killed a few deer too. That 41 is like a friend. I use 210gr XTP's over 20 or 21gr of Lilgun just about all the time or 17 or 18gr of 2400. I have used H110 over 20 or 21gr. All good hunting loads or woods carry.

MMCSRET · June 20, 2011, 09:43 PM

I cast Lyman 410610 if I want a gas check, which isn't very often. I cast Lyman 410032 or 410028 for the 210/215 weight range and then I use 410426 for a heavy weight, drops around 245 from my home mix.

Rexster · June 20, 2011, 10:38 PM

I purchased a surplus ex-San Antonio PD duty Model 58 in 1984, and used it as my duty sixgun for most of the rest of the 1980s. It was so smooth, that with the help of it's very narrow trigger, which had been relieved for an even shorter reach, it performed very well for me in spite of my hands not really being large enough for an N-frame. When it became just too loose to keep shooting it in DA mode anymore, I retired it from active service, but I still have it, as a reminder of the times of high adventure on the mean
streets.

(I still patrol those streets, which can still be wild and dangerous, at times, but the 1980s and early 1990s were really something, a different era.)

I owned another 58, that was near-mint, that I fired only a few times, that I kept as a spare, and a
657 that I would be more likely to carry in wet conditions. These did not have the dressed-down
trigger face like my ex-SAPD sixgun, nor were they as smooth in the action, so I did not shoot
them as well. (Remember, N-frames are too big for my hands.) I eventually sold these. I also
briefly owned a Redhawk that was really too big for me.

More recently, I have very nearly bought a Freedom Arms Model 97, chambered in .41 Magnum, from a local dealer. Twice, a .41 FA 97 stayed almost long enough for me to scrape together the resources to buy, or start a layaway. Yes, I do think it was the same FA sixgun, as a new firearm
the first time, as again as a pre-owned firearm; I remembered the distinctive serial number.
Assuming FA can stay in business, an FA 97 is the leading contender for my next, eventual .41 Mag sixgun.

slicksleeve · June 20, 2011, 10:52 PM

I'm in too. The first revolver I ever bought was a 6" Model 657. After ten years I still have and it'll never leave. I also killed my second ever deer, and first with a handgun with this revolver.

336A · June 20, 2011, 11:52 PM

Hunt480 do you have a pic of the ld girl to share with us?

336A · June 21, 2011, 10:15 AM

You cast please correct me if I'm wrong here. When checking the cylinder throats, a cast bullet (.411" in my case) should need only slight finger pressure to get through the cylinder throat correct?

JohnD13 · June 21, 2011, 02:21 PM

My Blackhawk .41 has seen a lot of deer seasons with me! Mostly shooting 210 grain jacketed bullets over healthy charges of 2400 or H110. I'm interested in loading some cast bullets in the 250 grain range, just need a push to get going.

336A · June 21, 2011, 02:33 PM

Welcome aboard JohnD13. I'm not sure what in the world a 250gr bullet is going to solve for you that your 210gr loads won't in N.Y. I just left N.Y. and have temorarily moved south. I'm in the midst of working up a mid powered load with a 215gr SWC. Even that load will handle anything up there to include the occasional black bear. A 215gr SWC moving along about 1100fps will zip right through a black bear without issues.

jdh · June 21, 2011, 02:36 PM

My first duty carry was a 57. Still have it.

215 LSWC 8.0-8.2 Unique (depending on brass brand) gives a low recoil, low flash, mild report indoor range load that is exceptionally accurate.

336A · June 21, 2011, 02:43 PM

Here are some links for the group to some various ammo companies that sell ammuntion for the .41 mag, in case some are having troubles finding any.

http://shop.reedsammo.com/category.s...?categoryId=70

http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/index.php

http://georgia-arms.com/41remmag.aspx

http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php...duct_list&c=18

http://www.grizzlycartridge.com/stor...show&ref=41mag

http://www.corbon.com/

Iggy · June 21, 2011, 02:57 PM

I carried Model 58 as an LEO for 13 years. The gun and the cartridge did what they were designed to do.

336A · June 21, 2011, 06:58 PM

Hey fellas I slugged my cylinder throats by dropping Hornady bullets through the cylinder. The bullets went through with only slight finger pressure, so will .411" cast bullets give me any leading issues?

orionengnr · June 21, 2011, 07:11 PM

Count me in. I had a 6" M57 and then found a 4". Sold the 6" and regret it.
But I still have the 4", and it's not going anywhere.

I like Missouri Bullet's 215 gr SWC with 8 gr Green Dot (plinking loads) or 18 gr 296 (real loads).

.41 Mag is my second most carried and shot revolver cartridge, after .45 LC. If I could only have one, I honestly don't know which way I'd go.

ETA: subscribing.

SharpsDressedMan · June 21, 2011, 07:12 PM

I dont have one, but I do have 10mm's. Can I be an associate member?

W.E.G. · June 21, 2011, 07:38 PM

I got mine -- for my 41st birthday.

Damn, that was a long time ago.

June 20, 2011, 04:18 PM	#1
336A Member Join Date: July 26, 2007 Posts: 816	.41 Mag Association Since the forgotten middle magnum don't get much press I figured why not start a .41 mag association. This would be the perfect place to share favorite loads guns and so on. So lets go .41 addicts lets get this ball rolling. __________________ If numbers killed I'd be hunting with a calculator

June 20, 2011, 04:38 PM	#2
1911Tuner Moderator Join Date: May 22, 2003 Location: Lexington,North Carolina...or thereabouts Posts: 17,332	I'm in! The .41 Magnum has long been my all-time favorite revolver cartridge. __________________ Speak kindly to me, beloved master. Revel in my unconditional love, and give me every minute that you can spare, for my time with you is short. -your faithful dog- [/i] http://www.collierescue.net/available/index.html To see my real work: http://www.pets-r-great.org:80/magaz...ue1/cover.html

June 20, 2011, 05:42 PM	#4
336A Member Join Date: July 26, 2007 Posts: 816	Has anyone messed around with the 170gr bullets from Sierra? It seems as though it would make a decent SD bullet for the .41 mag. __________________ If numbers killed I'd be hunting with a calculator

June 20, 2011, 06:12 PM	#5
1911Tuner Moderator Join Date: May 22, 2003 Location: Lexington,North Carolina...or thereabouts Posts: 17,332	I have. Good bullet, but the Remington 170 is more destructive in soft targets. 1500 fps is doable in a 4-inch barrel, but it's...a little crisp. __________________ Speak kindly to me, beloved master. Revel in my unconditional love, and give me every minute that you can spare, for my time with you is short. -your faithful dog- [/i] http://www.collierescue.net/available/index.html To see my real work: http://www.pets-r-great.org:80/magaz...ue1/cover.html

June 20, 2011, 06:24 PM	#7
1911Tuner Moderator Join Date: May 22, 2003 Location: Lexington,North Carolina...or thereabouts Posts: 17,332	Ain't fired a jacketed bullet in a .41 Magnum in over 15 years. Us boolit casters call'em full length gas checks. __________________ Speak kindly to me, beloved master. Revel in my unconditional love, and give me every minute that you can spare, for my time with you is short. -your faithful dog- [/i] http://www.collierescue.net/available/index.html To see my real work: http://www.pets-r-great.org:80/magaz...ue1/cover.html

June 20, 2011, 05:22 PM	#3
Bush Pilot Member Join Date: October 17, 2007 Posts: 995	One more here. We need a secret sign so we can identify each other, maybe 4 fingers on one hand and 1 on the other hand pointing downward.

June 20, 2011, 06:18 PM	#6
MMCSRET Member Join Date: February 18, 2008 Location: North Central Montana, across the Wide Missouri Posts: 2,937	I'm in!! I like cast bullets in my 41's. I have 4 different molds and find it very satisfying.

June 20, 2011, 07:03 PM	#8
336A Member Join Date: July 26, 2007 Posts: 816	So what cast bullets are you folks using in your your .41's. I've got some test loads made up using the common 215gr SWC from Leadhead. I have ten each ready to go with 8.5gr, 8.7gr, 8.9gr and 9.1gr of Unique. __________________ If numbers killed I'd be hunting with a calculator

June 20, 2011, 07:29 PM	#9
1911Tuner Moderator Join Date: May 22, 2003 Location: Lexington,North Carolina...or thereabouts Posts: 17,332	My own, dropped from the RCBS 210-grain mould. Alloy is my own concoction, too. Approximately 3% antimony...2% tin...and 95% lead. Good from 750 to 1350 fps and no lead fouling beyond a light lead wash that cleans up in two passes...in and out...with a dry .44 caliber brush. With 8.5 grains Unique, through the Model 58, the chronograph insists that the velocity is 1050 fps and nearly breaks 1100 through the short Blackhawk. Cuts cloverleaf groups at 25 yards if better eyes than mine look at the sights. __________________ Speak kindly to me, beloved master. Revel in my unconditional love, and give me every minute that you can spare, for my time with you is short. -your faithful dog- [/i] http://www.collierescue.net/available/index.html To see my real work: http://www.pets-r-great.org:80/magaz...ue1/cover.html

June 20, 2011, 08:40 PM	#10
Walkalong Moderator Join Date: November 20, 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 30,061	Count me in. Redhawk Smith 57 Not real experienced, but definitely a fan. __________________ Do you ever wonder why nobody ever robs the bag man for the mob? No, you don't. "Oh bother" said Pooh, as he chambered another round. Author unknown.

June 20, 2011, 08:52 PM	#11
Hunt480 Member Join Date: January 27, 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 443	I got a 41 mag NMBH I have literally wore the blue off of the barrel from general use and woods carry for the last 20 years or so. It has been on some long hikes and even killed a few deer too. That 41 is like a friend. I use 210gr XTP's over 20 or 21gr of Lilgun just about all the time or 17 or 18gr of 2400. I have used H110 over 20 or 21gr. All good hunting loads or woods carry. __________________ American Patriot in "Rural Georgia" "if a little rebellion now & then was good for our country back then, then nothing has changed.The time is definately ripe for another"

June 20, 2011, 09:43 PM	#12
MMCSRET Member Join Date: February 18, 2008 Location: North Central Montana, across the Wide Missouri Posts: 2,937	I cast Lyman 410610 if I want a gas check, which isn't very often. I cast Lyman 410032 or 410028 for the 210/215 weight range and then I use 410426 for a heavy weight, drops around 245 from my home mix.

June 20, 2011, 10:38 PM	#13
Rexster Member Join Date: March 25, 2007 Location: SE Texas Posts: 2,790	I purchased a surplus ex-San Antonio PD duty Model 58 in 1984, and used it as my duty sixgun for most of the rest of the 1980s. It was so smooth, that with the help of it's very narrow trigger, which had been relieved for an even shorter reach, it performed very well for me in spite of my hands not really being large enough for an N-frame. When it became just too loose to keep shooting it in DA mode anymore, I retired it from active service, but I still have it, as a reminder of the times of high adventure on the mean streets. (I still patrol those streets, which can still be wild and dangerous, at times, but the 1980s and early 1990s were really something, a different era.) I owned another 58, that was near-mint, that I fired only a few times, that I kept as a spare, and a 657 that I would be more likely to carry in wet conditions. These did not have the dressed-down trigger face like my ex-SAPD sixgun, nor were they as smooth in the action, so I did not shoot them as well. (Remember, N-frames are too big for my hands.) I eventually sold these. I also briefly owned a Redhawk that was really too big for me. More recently, I have very nearly bought a Freedom Arms Model 97, chambered in .41 Magnum, from a local dealer. Twice, a .41 FA 97 stayed almost long enough for me to scrape together the resources to buy, or start a layaway. Yes, I do think it was the same FA sixgun, as a new firearm the first time, as again as a pre-owned firearm; I remembered the distinctive serial number. Assuming FA can stay in business, an FA 97 is the leading contender for my next, eventual .41 Mag sixgun. __________________ Have Colts, will travel. Last edited by Rexster; June 21, 2011 at 09:52 AM. Reason: Typo

June 20, 2011, 10:52 PM	#14
slicksleeve Member Join Date: September 1, 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 347	I'm in too. The first revolver I ever bought was a 6" Model 657. After ten years I still have and it'll never leave. I also killed my second ever deer, and first with a handgun with this revolver. __________________ I'm not a hillbilly, I'm an Appalachian American.

June 20, 2011, 11:52 PM	#15
336A Member Join Date: July 26, 2007 Posts: 816	Hunt480 do you have a pic of the ld girl to share with us? __________________ If numbers killed I'd be hunting with a calculator

June 21, 2011, 10:15 AM	#16
336A Member Join Date: July 26, 2007 Posts: 816	You cast please correct me if I'm wrong here. When checking the cylinder throats, a cast bullet (.411" in my case) should need only slight finger pressure to get through the cylinder throat correct? __________________ If numbers killed I'd be hunting with a calculator

June 21, 2011, 02:21 PM	#17
JohnD13 Member Join Date: September 23, 2010 Location: NY Posts: 173	My Blackhawk .41 has seen a lot of deer seasons with me! Mostly shooting 210 grain jacketed bullets over healthy charges of 2400 or H110. I'm interested in loading some cast bullets in the 250 grain range, just need a push to get going.

June 21, 2011, 02:33 PM	#18
336A Member Join Date: July 26, 2007 Posts: 816	Welcome aboard JohnD13. I'm not sure what in the world a 250gr bullet is going to solve for you that your 210gr loads won't in N.Y. I just left N.Y. and have temorarily moved south. I'm in the midst of working up a mid powered load with a 215gr SWC. Even that load will handle anything up there to include the occasional black bear. A 215gr SWC moving along about 1100fps will zip right through a black bear without issues. __________________ If numbers killed I'd be hunting with a calculator

June 21, 2011, 02:36 PM	#19
jdh Member Join Date: January 5, 2008 Posts: 757	My first duty carry was a 57. Still have it. 215 LSWC 8.0-8.2 Unique (depending on brass brand) gives a low recoil, low flash, mild report indoor range load that is exceptionally accurate.

June 21, 2011, 02:43 PM	#20
336A Member Join Date: July 26, 2007 Posts: 816	Here are some links for the group to some various ammo companies that sell ammuntion for the .41 mag, in case some are having troubles finding any. http://shop.reedsammo.com/category.s...?categoryId=70 http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/index.php http://georgia-arms.com/41remmag.aspx http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php...duct_list&c=18 http://www.grizzlycartridge.com/stor...show&ref=41mag http://www.corbon.com/ __________________ If numbers killed I'd be hunting with a calculator

June 21, 2011, 02:57 PM	#21
Iggy Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Location: Wyoming Posts: 2,418	I carried Model 58 as an LEO for 13 years. The gun and the cartridge did what they were designed to do. __________________ Old Geezer

June 21, 2011, 06:58 PM	#22
336A Member Join Date: July 26, 2007 Posts: 816	Hey fellas I slugged my cylinder throats by dropping Hornady bullets through the cylinder. The bullets went through with only slight finger pressure, so will .411" cast bullets give me any leading issues? __________________ If numbers killed I'd be hunting with a calculator

June 21, 2011, 07:11 PM	#23
orionengnr Member Join Date: January 3, 2005 Posts: 4,224	Count me in. I had a 6" M57 and then found a 4". Sold the 6" and regret it. But I still have the 4", and it's not going anywhere. I like Missouri Bullet's 215 gr SWC with 8 gr Green Dot (plinking loads) or 18 gr 296 (real loads). .41 Mag is my second most carried and shot revolver cartridge, after .45 LC. If I could only have one, I honestly don't know which way I'd go. ETA: subscribing. Last edited by orionengnr; June 21, 2011 at 09:06 PM.

June 21, 2011, 07:12 PM	#24
SharpsDressedMan Member Join Date: February 18, 2007 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 5,289	I dont have one, but I do have 10mm's. Can I be an associate member? __________________ 1)Beware of the man with only eight rounds.......he MAY be scared enough to make them count! M1 Garand & M1911 2) "What would Genghis Khan do?"

June 21, 2011, 07:38 PM	#25
W.E.G. Member Join Date: September 26, 2006 Location: all over Virginia Posts: 6,409	I got mine -- for my 41st birthday. Damn, that was a long time ago.