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Old October 3, 2011, 02:46 PM   #526
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Looks like someone tried to make a lamp out of it by putting a light bulb inside the barrel. Too bad. Looks like it would have been a very nice original.
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Old October 3, 2011, 03:26 PM   #527
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Holy....that's awesome!
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Old October 3, 2011, 03:56 PM   #528
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That's increadible. Nice gun.
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Old October 3, 2011, 05:33 PM   #529
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Looks like someone tried to make a lamp out of it by putting a light bulb inside the barrel. Too bad. Looks like it would have been a very nice original.
Nearly, but no prize... yes the bore is SPOTLESS!!

The frame has been 'cut back' to expose the barrel threads, but this has been done 'by hand' after casting, wasnt cast in the NMA (NMN?) shape.

I may put another thread up here somewhere about my new baby.
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Old October 3, 2011, 11:56 PM   #530
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Nice centerfold. Some folks would rather look at wimmin! The fools.
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Old October 4, 2011, 01:52 AM   #531
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Old October 4, 2011, 01:54 AM   #532
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Old October 4, 2011, 01:56 AM   #533
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Old October 4, 2011, 02:10 AM   #534
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Those are a little out of date.....I don't own those derringers anymore, and I have some more Remmies I don't have pictures of yet.
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Old October 4, 2011, 02:30 AM   #535
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The engraved ones are gorgeous... me want me want
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Old October 4, 2011, 06:18 AM   #536
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Rare ASM Steel Frame Buffalo Model

Here's an Armi San Marco steel frame .44 Buffalo Model that has a really nice looking plum colored frame. It's marked BD which indicates that is was proofed in 1994. There's hardly any sign of wear on this gun.
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Old October 4, 2011, 06:58 AM   #537
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New York reload and then some

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Old October 4, 2011, 05:16 PM   #538
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Hey Arcticap, those Buffalo models are pretty awesome, aren't they? I have a Pietta one with stell frame. amazing shooter.

I asked the cabela's rep why they stopped importing them and they don't know why.
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Old October 4, 2011, 11:36 PM   #539
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Marstar still sells the steel frame Pietta Buffalo Model in Canada.
But all that I can think of is that they want to make folks buy either the lesser expensive brass frames or the really expensive stainless ones.

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Old October 5, 2011, 12:07 AM   #540
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Them stainless are on sale over at Cabelas.
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Old October 5, 2011, 12:40 AM   #541
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Marstar still sells the steel frame Pietta Buffalo Model in Canada
Yeah, but besides being too expensive, the cost to have one sent to the US is absurd as well.

Why are there no 12" barrels for the 1858 around? They still import the brass framed Buffalo's, so why no 12" barrels on the market?

I can't find them, anyway.
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Old October 5, 2011, 06:51 AM   #542
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SO out of curiosity what are the velocities of a specific load inthe 12 inch barreled guns vs. standard and 5.5?

Are the brass framed 12 inchers durable, accurate, and capable of the same loads as the steel in a Remington 1858-63 design?

DOes anyone make the carbine in a brass frame?

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Old October 5, 2011, 11:34 AM   #543
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I don't have any info. for the 5.5", but when it comes to hunting the stainless frame Pietta 12" Buffalo is capable of hitting a lot harder than with the 8" barrel.

From post #62 below:

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You can get 1000 + fps (313 ftlbs) with a 141 gr .454 ball and 35 gr of 777 in an 8 inch Pietta 1858 revolver and over 1200fps (450 ftlbs) if you go up to the 12 inch version. I have them both and that is what I have chronographed them on both my chrony and my hunting buddies as well.

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I have been hunting wild hogs and deer in Florida for many years. I use a Pietta stainless 1858 Buffalo revolver with a 12 inch barrel. My typical loads are 37 to 40gr 0f 777 3fg, a wad and a .454 ball. This combo chronograhs at 1250fps/450ftlbs.

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If you wish to hunt big game you must only use 777 or Swiss any other powder just does not develop the pressures needed. Only use steel frame revolvers no brass models please as these cannot handle the high pressure created by these powders. I am getting 1250fps/450ftlbs with 37gr of 777, a wad and a .454 ball out of my 12 in stainless Pietta 1858. I get an honest 1000fps with 32gr of 777 and a 240 flat nosed conical which translates to over 530ftlbs of energy. This my friends is in the 41 magnum ballistic territory but with a bigger diameter and harder hitting projectile. I have been hunting with this gun for over a decade and have taken many deer and hogs out to 50 yards.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthrea...=606998&page=2
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http://hoveysmith.wordpress.com/2011...n-revolvers-k/

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Old October 6, 2011, 12:05 AM   #544
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Remington technical advancements!

It's funny how advanced the 1863 double derringer is when compared to the '58 BP revolver! The bored through .46 caliber '58 is likewise advanced!
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Old October 6, 2011, 05:15 PM   #545
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I never tried a 12" inch 1858... but, when loaded with swiss, it should be between 440/520ftlbs and 700ftlbs (as those are the numbers I reached with my 8" brass/rem and my 18" 1858 carbine respectively (.457 round ball over full chambers of swiss)).
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Old October 14, 2011, 07:16 PM   #546
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Okay, not I'm official, just arrived in the big brown truck.

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Old October 14, 2011, 10:42 PM   #547
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We all need to show that Big Brown Truck of Joy some more love... It keeps bringing different members all sorts of neat stuff.
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Old October 14, 2011, 11:12 PM   #548
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Now that you're official...

....a welcome to the club!
the Brown Truck Of Joy does make us all smile every so often!
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Old October 14, 2011, 11:33 PM   #549
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nice shooting Iron MCgunner! the short Remmys on sale are tempting me, I'm thinking i need to save some cash and buy me a steel framed 58 Remmy! i mean i love my 8" Remington, but i would like a short barreled one. that way when I'm going to the fishing hole and have to walk past my neighbors i can stick it in my coat. (i never go to the woods or creek without a gun, it's good to be prepared)
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Old October 14, 2011, 11:38 PM   #550
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They are nice for concealment, Levi. Not as accurate at longer distances, but better balanced and they do fit that coat pocket better.
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