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Old December 17, 2011, 12:53 AM   #1301
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Glunk. Yeah, I know, lotsa folks love them. But that's my answer and I'm sticking to it.
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Old December 17, 2011, 01:25 AM   #1302
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I would never buy a little raven .25 for 75 bux but I would for 20. I don't think I have a never buy gun if it's usable and the price is right i'll buy it. Sometimes even if it's not usable and I think I can fix it and the price is right i'll buy it. Could end up as a shed gun or maybe trade fodder or a quick profit. If a gun is in X condition today and worth X then it will still be worth X if not more down the road in the same condition as bought.

This does not apply to buying new guns.
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Old December 18, 2011, 08:40 PM   #1303
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Firestorm Gov. Model. I would of done better to spend that money on a over priced brick, samething in the end.
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Old December 19, 2011, 09:00 AM   #1304
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Anything ever made by Competitor. Owned two of them and the ejector lock failed. They said to send the failed part back as it has a lifetime warranty. That was back in 2009 and still to this day despite many emails and phone calls, have never received any parts back. I sold the two peices of junk for a lot less than I paid but was happy to be rid of them.
Nice idea but their customer service sucks big time.
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Old December 19, 2011, 09:17 AM   #1305
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Glock for me as well. I've yet to hold a Glock that felt good in my hand. Ever.
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Old December 20, 2011, 02:33 AM   #1306
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Anything by:
6. Hi-point

The Colt 2000, Ruger large caliber semi auto's, S&W sigma series, Desert Eagle 44 & 50.
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Old December 20, 2011, 02:01 PM   #1307
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I went to the range recently. Thought I'd give the 1911 another shot.


Never buy another one.
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Old December 20, 2011, 10:47 PM   #1308
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All of our now nonexistent textile & light manufacturing jobs have gone to China but why the heck worry about that until they replace the Statue of Liberty with a big brass statue of Chairman Mao.

No big deal!

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Old December 20, 2011, 11:05 PM   #1309
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Originally Posted by SaxonPig View Post
Springfield Armory for screwing investors a few years ago and Ruger for Bill stabbing us in the back when he sided with Schumer et al in the 1994 assault weapon ban.
I think old Bill was getting senile when he did that.
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Old December 20, 2011, 11:38 PM   #1310
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These are in order from hates to just dislikes
-High Point
-lightweight 357 snubnose
-AR-15 pattern rifles (will own one eventually but I'm just sick of hearing them spoken of as gods and the only option when buying a rifle, much prefer my mini-14 for general use)
-Glock (not bad, just way overhyped, would immediately trade for an M&P if I wanted polymer striker fired)
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Old December 21, 2011, 02:26 AM   #1311
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I had a 20 gauge Mossberg bolt action shotgun that I used as my first trap gun for about a year.

The barrel had these vertical ports cut near the C-Lect choke @ the front of the barrel. When I had a hard left or right flying bird, I'd end up spraying the adjacent shooters in the squad with hot gasses and plastic shards from the wad.

The gun itself looked pretty cool on the trap line, but I will never again own another Mossberg bolt action shotgun with vertical ports on the barrel.
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Old December 22, 2011, 03:10 AM   #1312
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what do any of you think about the new ruger number 1? Was looking for a single shot for mountain deer hunting in up state ny.
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Old December 22, 2011, 03:14 AM   #1313
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oops;; I would never buy another Tarus P1911 45 acp. Have Colt 70 series gold cup..sweet. IMHO
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Old December 22, 2011, 03:36 AM   #1314
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Anything with a flappy trigger safety, but especially glock for popularizing the stupid thing. There's a handful of pistols I would love to own but never will because I can't stand those stupid triggers.
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Old December 22, 2011, 08:07 AM   #1315
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Heck, if Hi-Point made a gun that would accept the CZ mags I have or the Glock mags I can get by the crate, I'd own a few. Garage, car, tacklebox...

But I've ruled out a large number of striker-fired pistols. The odd safeties don't bother me--it's that they feel like they don't have so much of a trigger as a marshmallow.
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Old December 22, 2011, 08:34 AM   #1316
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Wilson Combat, I have my reasons and can't support them in any way.
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Old December 22, 2011, 10:07 AM   #1317
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Glock: They just don't feel right in my hand.
Kahr: I won't support Reverend Moon.
Kimber: Too much money for a gun that still needs tweaking.

Any pistol with a beavertail - I've never owned a pistol that needed one and I'll never buy a pistol that has one.

Any pistol with a "trick" trigger. Another strike against Glock and the reason I won't buy a S&W M&P.

Lightweight .357 Magnum revolver: Just because it's possible to make them doesn't mean it's a good idea. But I am sure there are people who either consider excessive recoil a test of manhood or actually enjoy it and to them I commend the Scandium S&W J-frames and the Ruger LCR.
No Glocks, no Kimbers, and still no regrets.
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Old December 22, 2011, 11:00 AM   #1318
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Originally Posted by Batty67 View Post
Glock for me as well. I've yet to hold a Glock that felt good in my hand. Ever.
Try a Gen 4 17 if you have not already done so. I have heard from two 'I would never buy a Glock' persons that when picking up the gen 4 17, could not believe how good the gunfit their hands. One of them was a retired LE thatis doing gun instruction at the local range. The other was person that was trying out a Springfield XDM.

As far as a gun I would never buy is an all metal gun, the polymer guns have been proven to be better. Of course, there might be an exception for the new Ruger 1911 in the future.
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Old December 22, 2011, 11:27 AM   #1319
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My "Never" list:
  • Any centerfire autopistol chambered in a cartridge smaller than .380 (weak, unreliable guns with no advantage over a .380)
  • Any In-line muzzle loader with modern optics (if you are going to hunt the black powder season, stop cheating!)
  • Any gun chambered in .40S&W (a compromise round I see no use at all for)

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Old December 23, 2011, 05:30 AM   #1320
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Anything made by WINCHESTER
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Old December 23, 2011, 05:15 PM   #1321
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A bolt-action shotgun--I just don't see the point.
I would definitely have to agree with that. I got one for Christmas when I was about 15. I was so disappointed that it wasn't a pump. It's the only gun I have since sold, that I got in my youth. Still have the Winchester .22, and the Winchester 30.06. Just couldn't bear to keep that ugly Mossberg bolt action shotgun, though.
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Old January 15, 2012, 11:32 PM   #1322
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Ok, three weeks out and I'm going to revive this thread again... oh well, here goes. If it's cheap enough and looks like I can have fun with it or use it, I'd buy it. That said, I really have no desire for the AR/AK type rifles. Personally, I'd rather take my time and place my shots carefully with a good bolt action. I generally don't like anything that feels like cheap junk in my hands. This would include things like plastic stock shotguns, Mossberg 500's with slides that rattle loud enough to flush game, etc.

Never fired a Glock (probably will Tuesday) but I'm sure they're fine guns. That said, I'd never want one for CCW. Or any other semi. My CCW is a Taurus 85 in .38 Special complete with wood grips and a 4" barrel. My wife carries a "bicycle" model H&R topbreak chambered in .32 S&W short. I also have a Rohm RG-10x that a friend gave me that someone had cut the barrel shorter. I made a sight for it and am in the process of truing it up. I would sooner trust the Rohm .22 for self defense than any semi. Just my preference. I've been startled by a pheasant while hunting and learned how one can fumble a gun while under the influence of adrenalin. Semis seem to me to be too complicated and too many things to get right (hold it tight enough, hit this switch, that lever, the button on the left NO THE LEFT!, and if it doesn't go off, smack it on your hand, rack the slide, and try again.) This is fine for people who use them frequently under high stress situations, such as military and cops, but I likely will never need it. If I use my CCW in a high stress situation once in my lifetime it will be a lot. I'm too afraid I'd screw it up. If I go for my Taurus, and forget to cock it and pull the trigger, it still goes bang. If a round is bad and I just pull the trigger again, it goes bang. If I pull it out and in the stress of the situation I pull the IWB holster out with it, the holster is open on the bottom and my finger fits on the trigger inside the leather and it still goes bang. I would like to get one or more semis someday, because they look like fun for the range, but when push comes to shove, I want one thing that WILL work EVERY TIME and that's my wheelguns.

There are a few other guns I really wouldn't want, like that obnoxious 870 carbine in .30-06 I fired before. Sloppy pump action for close hunting speed with a cartridge designed for distance. Short barrel for close woods hunting and a scope that slowed your sighting down too much. Add to that that it had a heavy cartidge with a light gun and it basically tried to run away every time you shot it -- unfortunately your shoulder was in it's way so it tried to run through/over you. Someone else mentioned the .500 snubbie -- never shot one, never want to. My wife's .32 can generate a lot of muzzle flip with its 1" or so barrel, no desire to find out what one that big feels like.
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Old January 16, 2012, 12:43 PM   #1323
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Guns I will never buy……….

Rem 700 series, or anything closely related to them.
Keeping the weapon pointed in a safe direction is just part of it. Make sure to keep your ear protection on at all times when you have a live round in the chamber. It going off at random with the safety on when your head is close to the muzzle is quite painful to your ears. Especially if it is slung over your back with the muzzle by your left shoulder.

AK, WASR or variant.
I am sorry but a weapon primarily built out of sheet metal just doesn’t cut it.

And in the same variant… Any gun with the primary moving parts made of plastic.

Snub nose revolvers.
Self explanatory.

Carbine rifles, if it can be avoided in any way.
If I ever buy an AR variant, it will at least have a 24 inch barrel on it. It is plain stupid to cut the end off a barrel, then try to affix things on the end to reduce the flash, and blast when it wouldn’t even be a problem if you hadn’t cut the end of the freaking barrel off in the first place

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Old January 16, 2012, 12:53 PM   #1324
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The SKS is milled, not sheet metal.
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Old January 16, 2012, 01:04 PM   #1325
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I hope y'all live long enough to find the humorous truth in my rigid decision.

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