SCAM alert- gunlistings.org

[Anonomus]

Originally Posted by Motega

This guy took photos from a current gunbroker auction :

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=291389380

and then created a fake listing at http://www.gunlistings.org/colorado-...s__.357_magnum

I contacted the person and they sent me a fake military ID and asked me to send a $1200 money order to

NAME: DANIELLE GAMACHE
ADDRESS: 302 S.RUSSELL St. Apt #3
CITY: AVA
STATE: ILLINOIS
ZIPCODE: 62907

and called my prepaid cell with a number that came up gave the phone number : 314-338-4617. He called my cell phone with that phone number so apparently it is a working number, I'm sure a prepaid cell impossible to track.

I called the county sheriff and the deputy I spoke with said they don't have the manpower to pursue it.
I asked the guy to take a photo of himself holding up his phone number and I would run right out to my bank that is open on Sunday and get a money order, hopefully his greed will overcome his common sense and I will be able to post a photo of this thief.

Be on the lookout for anyone using any combination of these credentials.Whatever you do though, don't let your sense of decency or justice prompt you to call that cell phone at all hours of the night, that wouldn't be very nice.

Gotta love that he put his picture in revers (ribbons on wrong side) on the id. And even if if he hadn't, I don't remember ever wearing ribbons on BDU's when I was in the service.

[mgkdrgn]

Originally Posted by Motega

Say what you want about Paypal, but it's getting to the point where it's the only safe way to pay for stuff except for face to face.

Except that you CAN NOT use PayPal to pay for firearms ... it violates their terms of service. If they find out, they will close your account, the other partys account, and lock up any funds in both accounts.

[bsheppic]

Who ever this is they are it at it again. See armlist post below. The referance the same phone # as the rest of these post when I recieved a email from them.

http://www.armslist.com/posts/495136...ta-sv-10-12-ga

When the price is too good to be true it isn't true....

[7.62 Nato]

"The community has spoken! This post been flagged as a scam. "

[gainsharing]

This thief is now taking shotgun pictures from Gunbroker.com and using the name Cheryl Lott, Saint Paul Rd. in Byhalia, MS. The guns are selling for 25% of their actual value. I paid $40 to PeopleSmart.com for a full background report on this person and found too many inconsistencies (addresses, names, email addresses and disconnected phone numbers) to rush him/her a cashier's check. The seller emails every day asking if we still have a deal. This has been reported to the local police so they still haven't caught up with this couple.

[ilsrwy27]

Very interesting... There was a scammer a few weeks ago that pulled something very similar on a local website.
I guess when you see things advertised way too cheap locally the first thing to do is check on GB for a similar listing...

[Mr. Farknocker]

Sorry, but I'm ignorant about what services these auction sites offer but why don't these auction sites use escrow like eBay does? I avoided an $800 scam once by using an escrow service on eBay when I purchased a pair of turbochargers. I had three days to inspect the goods and to either accept or reject them. I paid escrow the money and escrow notified the shipper to send the product. When the product arrived, I discovered that they were not as advertised and quickly canceled the purchase. I returned the product and my money, less an administrative fee, was returned to me by escrow. Its a good way to avoid a scam like this one and is well-worth the money.

[Bubbles]

eBay primarily uses PayPal now for payments. IIRC the same company owns both.

PayPal does not permit payments for firearms and will lock your account and freeze your funds if you use it for that purpose.

[sigep749]

Found similar on Armslist, said they were a man, but signed it "Joan", wonder if it's the same person. I flagged it on Armslist. The post said it was local, but when I emailed, they said Indianna.

Really frustrated because I wanted the gun bad!

[rugerdude]

Haha, I just contacted the same person, and immediately realized it was a scam when I saw the actual value of the gun. Do they claim to be from SC?

[rugerdude]

Just got the same hilariously fake military ID from the same person. Pic is the same, but the name is now Joan Shackleford. Hahahaha

[firesky101]

HAHAHA... Shackleford. I hate to profile my fellow gun owners but it would seem Shackleford would be a terrible fake name to use on us. It just screams fake, at least they did not say their first name was Rusty.

[m1dbob1944]

You guys did your research and it paid off. Do diligence works every time. Also, the old adage, "If it sounds too good to be true..." Commons sense and critical thinking works every time.

[goldwinger43]

I responded to a ad on ARMSLIST.com for a KEL TEC shotgun for $800.00. Recieved the following phone number to call - 314-338-4617 . I did a google search on the number and came up with you guys postings. THANKS!

Also, they gave me this address to send payment to:
> Opal Hayes
> 106 S. Welch St.
> Scottsville
> KY
> 42164

Refused to send me a copy of their driver license so I got suspicious.

Haven't had scam artist on gun deals but I guess no one is immune.

[mookiie]

great thread. thanks for looking out for fellow gun enthusiasts!


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[readr1]

This one almost got me as well, I found the gunbroker auction the pictures were stolen from and had the post office return my envelope that I sent to the scammer.

I responded to a ad on ARMSLIST.com for a KEL TEC shotgun for $800.00. Recieved the following phone number to call - 314-338-4617 . I did a google search on the number and came up with you guys postings. THANKS!

Also, they gave me this address to send payment to:
> Opal Hayes
> 106 S. Welch St.
> Scottsville
> KY
> 42164

[Apachedriver]

On this ID, the gray box above the name is the last name of the individual blocked out. And yes, ID cards for the last 10-12 years have had "Geneva Conventions Identification" not 'Convention' on them. That ID is not the current format but it was issued in the past.

The Picture:
It's not backwards.
The colorful stuff on his right side chest area is a patch from the Aviation unit he is or was a part of. I can't make out enough details to know what unit specifically but it is an AH-64 Company patch, not a Battalion patch.
Two things about it: 1) the shape is an Apache shield and 2) you can just make out the word ATTACK on it across the top. The unit designation is at the very top but the pic is a little too fuzzy for me to break it out but I can see that it lists the aviation company designation. (possibly C Co 1-???)

This pictured individual is/was most probably a maintenance crew member.
I personally don't recognize the patch though.

Hope some of this helps someone snag him.

[blarby]

Hmmmm Magic Jack........ This is gonna be fun.

I have something to do tomorrow

[ole farmerbuck]

Watching

[powder]

Dang Ava, Il. is too far south to easily investigate for me. I'll check WI Armslist for kel tec shotguns...

Investigator's trick: use the address given in the online "White Pages" looking for the neighbor's phone numbers. Call the neighbors and start asking basic questions of the address in question, w/o tipping your hand on what you are exactly doing; people at the house, vehicle plates, peoples' descriptions.

If you are close to one of these addresses use Google Earth to get the lay of the land, before doing a drive-by. However, keep in mind, the given address just may only be a point that mail is forwarded FROM.

BTW-"Danielle" would be a female, Danial is a male.

[Charlesincharge]

Thanks for the heads up!!

[soonerfan85]

I wonder if Mr/Mrs scammer would agree to accept a money order of $2,500 drawn on the National Bank of Nigeria representing my recent inheritance. I'd let them take $800 for the Kel-Tec plus an extra $200 for their troubles. They'd send me the gun and the balance of the money order in cash. I think that's a fair deal.

[Bobk538447]

I have seen several like that on Texas Gun Trader. The person only wants to text versus talk, the items are often in locations other than listed on the item, the photos come from GunBroker or other sites, and sometimes the verbiage is verbatim from somebody else description. I have found them by searching with the same description. The persons appear to be taking great joy in having people drive to do FTF and cancelling once the person shows up.

[mikechandler]

After reading this thread, I am astonished that anyone would agree to send their driver's license to somebody. I am hesitant to give any personal information to people on the net.

I've done some sales on gunbroker, and used armslist before without issue. I only ship to an FFL, and I demand USPS money orders. Funny, I've had people request copies of my ID before, and I've always told them flat out NO; were they suspicious that I was a scammer? The only thing I've ever provided is my name and address, and a link to the county clerk's record on my property ownership - all of which is already a public record. That's all - would I be a suspect?

Kudos to you guys that track down real scammers, and hopefully they're all actually scammers, and not just people protecting their privacy!

[Mike Sr.]

Have they been arrested yet?