THR Remington 1858 Club

[Dakoma]

I thought it was a good deal anyway . Fellow selling it never cleaned it and said he bought it at a yard sale ,bore was coated with bore butter and someone popped off some caps makeing the bore look bad,2 swipes with a bore snake made it shine like a new dime and it is verry tight like it was not shot much ! Thank you !

[Hoof Hearted]

And those are really nice pistols! CONGRATS!
The Lyman marked Remmys are a lot nicer quality than currently produced ones......

HH

[mike.]

Mike here.Bought this about a month ago.All i know about it.Pietta made in Italy.

[mykeal]

New roster:
#1 Shoot The Moon, #2 TomADC, #3 fogg64, #4 mykeal, #5 romel, #6 kwhi43, #7rdstrain49, #8 junkman_01, #9 AaronE, #10 jtscuba02, #11 Prairie Dawg, #12 Nalioth, #13 Mizar, #14 BHP FAN, #15 napp, #16 jaymo, #17 theotherwaldo, #18 berkley, #19 Oyeboten, #20 messerist, #21 missuramoss, #22 ojh, #23 txgunsuscg, #24 WALKERs210, #25 BConklin, #26 ClemBert, #27 Hellgate, #28 dtvburns, #29 Loosenock, #30 Ultravox, #31 Otony, #32 45-70 Ranger, #33 Tinpan, 58 #34 1858 Remington, #35 Smokepole14, #36 Howdy Doody, #37Craiso, #38 Phantom Captain, #39 The Black Spot, #40 Martysport, #41 Captain Redbeard, #42 Shanghai McCoy, #43 GlennC22ndMVI (pending photo!), #44 BlackPowderSmoke, #45 Pressure Cleaner, #46 Dudemeister, #47 RhinoDave, #48 Straight-Shooter, #49 Rem1858, #50 grimjaw, #51 TheBigAR2003, #52 Hoof Hearted, #53 kbbailey, #54 Bill Aikins, #55 voodoochile, #56 oam, #57 kameron1858, #58 GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL, #59 72coupe, #60 Gambit88, #61 Olmontanaboy, #62 Cearbhall, #63 bwsmith2850, #64 chute2thrill, #65 Geneseo1911, #66 black_powder_Rob, #67 SleazyRider, #68 Captain*kirk, #69 Dave Markowitz, #70 waynes world, #71 Norton Commando, #72 M2HB M240, #73 BCRider, #74 Bill97222, #75 alienbogey, #76 Hobie, #77 cheatin charlie, #78 shinbone, #79 ExiledBrownCoat, #80 Dellbert, #81 drftman, #82 bax504, #83 One-Time, #84 Danriffle, #85 Indian Outlaw, #86 tpelle, #87 dlon21, #88 zvp, #89 avan47, #90 hongrn, #91 Fingers McGee, #92 MJN, #93 YumaKid, #94 NineMilePete ,#95 sltm1, #96 SC Slowhand, #97 JRogers, #98 Dhunter, #99 Smokin Gun, #100 HUnter58, #101 ChasMack, #102 madmike, #103 Legionnaire, #104 mb3, #105 Red October, #106 Busyhands94, #107 brushhippie, #108 gclefton, #109 Mcgunner, #110 zombiphobia, #111 Cult of 1858, #112 BP Nut, #113 darkerx, #114 longrifle346, #115 Rogue Coder, #116 azyogi, #117 crazysccrmd, #118 kwhi43@kc.rr.com, #119 Montenegrin, #120 gilgsn, #121 Greg528iT, #122 Majes, #123 BigDaddyDave, #124 Nikdfish, #125 mic214, #126 exbrit49, #127 BlackEagle, #128 Beauhooligan, #129 Jaymo, #130 PbBall, #131 towboat er, #132 hang fire, #133 iLikeOldGunsILikeNewGuns, #134 splattergun, #135 ApacheCoTodd, #136 38-55, #137 suzukibruce, #138 Ryden, #139 Black Duck Charlie, #140 Ursus Magnus, #141 dober83, #142 CarbineWilliams, #143 Indy4570, #144 Loosenock, #145 enanmc, #146 skinny1950, #147 7mmstalker, #148 spaniel, #149 SixxshootinSam, #150 Ratdog68, #151 pohill, #152 kBob, #153 usmcchet9296, #154 FreddyKruger, #155 Dan Carey, #156 toolslinger, #157 scrat, #158 Pantheragem, #159 thatfreaknguy, #160 Bob Roberts, #161 savit260, #162 Needles, #163 treadhead1952, #164 mavracer, #165 The Don, #166 1KPerDay, #167 nobody1369, #168 farmer7, #169 Jim, West PA, #170 tim josey, #171 JeanF, #172 eddiegun, #173 PRM, #174 Rojelio, #175 44 Dave, #176 arcticap, #177 Logan5579, #178 raa-7, #179 Dan D, #180 Smiling Bob, #181 Dakoma, #182 mike.

[Hagen442]

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[Hagen442]

Hello The Camp
May I Join the Conversation ?

I Shoot Cowboy Action-SASS with Pietta Remington 58s


Thanks For The Consideration

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[mic214]

Hagen442,

Welcome to the club......beautiful set up you have there!

Mick

[mykeal]

New roster:
#1 Shoot The Moon, #2 TomADC, #3 fogg64, #4 mykeal, #5 romel, #6 kwhi43, #7rdstrain49, #8 junkman_01, #9 AaronE, #10 jtscuba02, #11 Prairie Dawg, #12 Nalioth, #13 Mizar, #14 BHP FAN, #15 napp, #16 jaymo, #17 theotherwaldo, #18 berkley, #19 Oyeboten, #20 messerist, #21 missuramoss, #22 ojh, #23 txgunsuscg, #24 WALKERs210, #25 BConklin, #26 ClemBert, #27 Hellgate, #28 dtvburns, #29 Loosenock, #30 Ultravox, #31 Otony, #32 45-70 Ranger, #33 Tinpan, 58 #34 1858 Remington, #35 Smokepole14, #36 Howdy Doody, #37Craiso, #38 Phantom Captain, #39 The Black Spot, #40 Martysport, #41 Captain Redbeard, #42 Shanghai McCoy, #43 GlennC22ndMVI (pending photo!), #44 BlackPowderSmoke, #45 Pressure Cleaner, #46 Dudemeister, #47 RhinoDave, #48 Straight-Shooter, #49 Rem1858, #50 grimjaw, #51 TheBigAR2003, #52 Hoof Hearted, #53 kbbailey, #54 Bill Aikins, #55 voodoochile, #56 oam, #57 kameron1858, #58 GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL, #59 72coupe, #60 Gambit88, #61 Olmontanaboy, #62 Cearbhall, #63 bwsmith2850, #64 chute2thrill, #65 Geneseo1911, #66 black_powder_Rob, #67 SleazyRider, #68 Captain*kirk, #69 Dave Markowitz, #70 waynes world, #71 Norton Commando, #72 M2HB M240, #73 BCRider, #74 Bill97222, #75 alienbogey, #76 Hobie, #77 cheatin charlie, #78 shinbone, #79 ExiledBrownCoat, #80 Dellbert, #81 drftman, #82 bax504, #83 One-Time, #84 Danriffle, #85 Indian Outlaw, #86 tpelle, #87 dlon21, #88 zvp, #89 avan47, #90 hongrn, #91 Fingers McGee, #92 MJN, #93 YumaKid, #94 NineMilePete ,#95 sltm1, #96 SC Slowhand, #97 JRogers, #98 Dhunter, #99 Smokin Gun, #100 HUnter58, #101 ChasMack, #102 madmike, #103 Legionnaire, #104 mb3, #105 Red October, #106 Busyhands94, #107 brushhippie, #108 gclefton, #109 Mcgunner, #110 zombiphobia, #111 Cult of 1858, #112 BP Nut, #113 darkerx, #114 longrifle346, #115 Rogue Coder, #116 azyogi, #117 crazysccrmd, #118 kwhi43@kc.rr.com, #119 Montenegrin, #120 gilgsn, #121 Greg528iT, #122 Majes, #123 BigDaddyDave, #124 Nikdfish, #125 mic214, #126 exbrit49, #127 BlackEagle, #128 Beauhooligan, #129 Jaymo, #130 PbBall, #131 towboat er, #132 hang fire, #133 iLikeOldGunsILikeNewGuns, #134 splattergun, #135 ApacheCoTodd, #136 38-55, #137 suzukibruce, #138 Ryden, #139 Black Duck Charlie, #140 Ursus Magnus, #141 dober83, #142 CarbineWilliams, #143 Indy4570, #144 Loosenock, #145 enanmc, #146 skinny1950, #147 7mmstalker, #148 spaniel, #149 SixxshootinSam, #150 Ratdog68, #151 pohill, #152 kBob, #153 usmcchet9296, #154 FreddyKruger, #155 Dan Carey, #156 toolslinger, #157 scrat, #158 Pantheragem, #159 thatfreaknguy, #160 Bob Roberts, #161 savit260, #162 Needles, #163 treadhead1952, #164 mavracer, #165 The Don, #166 1KPerDay, #167 nobody1369, #168 farmer7, #169 Jim, West PA, #170 tim josey, #171 JeanF, #172 eddiegun, #173 PRM, #174 Rojelio, #175 44 Dave, #176 arcticap, #177 Logan5579, #178 raa-7, #179 Dan D, #180 Smiling Bob, #181 Dakoma, #182 mike., #183 Hagen442

[kbbailey]

Welcome Hagen442,

The emblems and engraving on your gear are a true testament to your character.

[Fiv3r]

My 5.5" New Army just rolled in from the brown truck, so I had to get a quick shot of it with it's older brother. The 8" Remington in the picture was my first cap and ball going on almost 3 years ago. My wife was pregnant with our daughter who was due at the end of July, so she thought it would be a fun idea to get me a "big ol' gun to scare the pants off her suitors" for my "first" father's day.


I can't think of anything short of the Walker/Dragoons that would scare me as much as a looking down the business end of a RNA. I have to say that the chunky/stocky look of the shorter Remington looks even meaner than the full length version

[BHP FAN]

man, I need to get another Remmie!

[mykeal]

New roster:
#1 Shoot The Moon, #2 TomADC, #3 fogg64, #4 mykeal, #5 romel, #6 kwhi43, #7rdstrain49, #8 junkman_01, #9 AaronE, #10 jtscuba02, #11 Prairie Dawg, #12 Nalioth, #13 Mizar, #14 BHP FAN, #15 napp, #16 jaymo, #17 theotherwaldo, #18 berkley, #19 Oyeboten, #20 messerist, #21 missuramoss, #22 ojh, #23 txgunsuscg, #24 WALKERs210, #25 BConklin, #26 ClemBert, #27 Hellgate, #28 dtvburns, #29 Loosenock, #30 Ultravox, #31 Otony, #32 45-70 Ranger, #33 Tinpan, 58 #34 1858 Remington, #35 Smokepole14, #36 Howdy Doody, #37Craiso, #38 Phantom Captain, #39 The Black Spot, #40 Martysport, #41 Captain Redbeard, #42 Shanghai McCoy, #43 GlennC22ndMVI (pending photo!), #44 BlackPowderSmoke, #45 Pressure Cleaner, #46 Dudemeister, #47 RhinoDave, #48 Straight-Shooter, #49 Rem1858, #50 grimjaw, #51 TheBigAR2003, #52 Hoof Hearted, #53 kbbailey, #54 Bill Aikins, #55 voodoochile, #56 oam, #57 kameron1858, #58 GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL, #59 72coupe, #60 Gambit88, #61 Olmontanaboy, #62 Cearbhall, #63 bwsmith2850, #64 chute2thrill, #65 Geneseo1911, #66 black_powder_Rob, #67 SleazyRider, #68 Captain*kirk, #69 Dave Markowitz, #70 waynes world, #71 Norton Commando, #72 M2HB M240, #73 BCRider, #74 Bill97222, #75 alienbogey, #76 Hobie, #77 cheatin charlie, #78 shinbone, #79 ExiledBrownCoat, #80 Dellbert, #81 drftman, #82 bax504, #83 One-Time, #84 Danriffle, #85 Indian Outlaw, #86 tpelle, #87 dlon21, #88 zvp, #89 avan47, #90 hongrn, #91 Fingers McGee, #92 MJN, #93 YumaKid, #94 NineMilePete ,#95 sltm1, #96 SC Slowhand, #97 JRogers, #98 Dhunter, #99 Smokin Gun, #100 HUnter58, #101 ChasMack, #102 madmike, #103 Legionnaire, #104 mb3, #105 Red October, #106 Busyhands94, #107 brushhippie, #108 gclefton, #109 Mcgunner, #110 zombiphobia, #111 Cult of 1858, #112 BP Nut, #113 darkerx, #114 longrifle346, #115 Rogue Coder, #116 azyogi, #117 crazysccrmd, #118 kwhi43@kc.rr.com, #119 Montenegrin, #120 gilgsn, #121 Greg528iT, #122 Majes, #123 BigDaddyDave, #124 Nikdfish, #125 mic214, #126 exbrit49, #127 BlackEagle, #128 Beauhooligan, #129 Jaymo, #130 PbBall, #131 towboat er, #132 hang fire, #133 iLikeOldGunsILikeNewGuns, #134 splattergun, #135 ApacheCoTodd, #136 38-55, #137 suzukibruce, #138 Ryden, #139 Black Duck Charlie, #140 Ursus Magnus, #141 dober83, #142 CarbineWilliams, #143 Indy4570, #144 Loosenock, #145 enanmc, #146 skinny1950, #147 7mmstalker, #148 spaniel, #149 SixxshootinSam, #150 Ratdog68, #151 pohill, #152 kBob, #153 usmcchet9296, #154 FreddyKruger, #155 Dan Carey, #156 toolslinger, #157 scrat, #158 Pantheragem, #159 thatfreaknguy, #160 Bob Roberts, #161 savit260, #162 Needles, #163 treadhead1952, #164 mavracer, #165 The Don, #166 1KPerDay, #167 nobody1369, #168 farmer7, #169 Jim, West PA, #170 tim josey, #171 JeanF, #172 eddiegun, #173 PRM, #174 Rojelio, #175 44 Dave, #176 arcticap, #177 Logan5579, #178 raa-7, #179 Dan D, #180 Smiling Bob, #181 Dakoma, #182 mike., #183 Hagen442, #184 Fiv3r

[jmfc606]

No Pic yet but just got one today. It's a Cabela's Pietta with the 5.5" BBL. I ordered it Christmas time for $169.00 and free shiiping!! It's a beauty. I'll post a pic asap

[shenck]

The nickel one is an original. The blue one is what my wife surprised me with this Christmas. It's a Pietta.44.
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Jim

[mykeal]

No pic yet can I still join?

Nope. Need the picture. If you need help posting it, let me know.

[Ryden]

Originally Posted by Hagen442

That's a mighty fine buckle you got there Brother!
On the level!
/A

[bprevolver]

Wanted, any information concerning "Witloe Precision, Inc.". They made a replica Remington 1858 New Model Army revolver. Two models were made, the “Grant” and the “Lee”. The “Grant” had a steel frame and the “Lee” had a bronze frame. Also, revolvers marked just "Witloe". I wish to purchase any of these as well.

drjldavis@hotmail.com

[Old Dragoon]

Dakoma,
Actually, recent research in the book, Remington Army and Navy Revolvers 1861-1888 by Donald L. Ware reveals that the Armi San Paolo/Euroarms 1858 revolver is actually an almost direct copy of the Remington - Beal's, Elliot's Transition to NMA,(not to be confused with the Remington - Beal's, Eliot's Patent Model), only produced for 6 months or so, (only 2000 or less made), before the NMA was introduced, the Elliot's Transition, had, the NMA lower hammer spur, the more rounded top of frame, the NMA Abor Pin and the Sail on the rammer was almost the same as the NMA, this model sail is due to the FIRST Elliot's Patent that allowed for the Arbor Pin to be slid forward to drop the cylinder out by milling and relieving the top of the rammer, these did not work well and that model was soon changed. The Remington - Beal's was in a constant state of flux until the NMA was introduced. The other telling feature of the R-B E transition model is that on this model there was an attempt to relieve fouling in front of the cylinder and it looks exactly like the ASP/Euroarms models show. There were SEVERAL new ideas manifested in the Elliot's Transition model, trying out the ideas, that for the most part came to fruitition on the New Model Army. The front sight is as HH said, different, as the original's were German silver.
The Remington _ Beal's, Elliot's Transition Model is the rarest of the Remington Army,(and Navy),Models.
I love doing this research. BTW this is confirmed in the above noted book on pages 342 -349.

I used to own one of these Models that was converted to 44 Center fire and I cannot find a picture of it now, but it was very similar to the ASP/Euroarms pistols I had at the same time. At the time I could not find anything about it because I did not know where to look.
Dang it, I should have kept that conversion......
I am of the firm belief that the Remington - Beal's , Elliot's Transition Model was, in fact, the revolver that Armi San Paolo acquired to copy and manufacture their version of the 1858 NMA.

[regniflow]

Sometime around 4 today I posted a pic of my ROA and Remington 1858 new model on the black powder site. Do I automatically belong to the Remington group? It is equipped with an original butt facing holster and most likely has never been fired in the past 50 years

[kBob]

reginflow,

It is listed as an invalid link on one post and not appearently o nthe other at all whe I try t view either of your other posts.

This is the topic you need to post your Remmington on and the ROA club topic is where the ROA goes.

-kBob

[Rattus58]

I just received my 1858 target model with two extra cylinders. I've a question for all you "shooter" of your firearms.
1) Do you ever shoot conicals such as the .45 ACP 452-200 RF from LEE?
2) Do any of you "size" conicals down to a loadable diameter?

Aloha...

[Hellgate]

Rattus58,
I shoot the LEE 44 conical in my 44 Remmies. They are 200gr and have a slightly rebated driving bands so the bullet drops into the second band before ramming it home. I don't shoot that many of them so I hand lube them by rubbing my home made BP lube into the grooves (at home rather than at the range). 30gr FFFg makes a nice "thumper".

[Rattus58]

Originally Posted by Hellgate

Rattus58,
I shoot the LEE 44 conical in my 44 Remmies. They are 200gr and have a slightly rebated driving bands so the bullet drops into the second band before ramming it home. I don't shoot that many of them so I hand lube them by rubbing my home made BP lube into the grooves (at home rather than at the range). 30gr FFFg makes a nice "thumper".

Do you know which Lee Mold you're using? I'm looking at two right now and would love to know if anyone has some actual experience with them.. one of them is the 452-200RF, 45 ACP http://leeprecision.com/bullet-casti...double-cavity/ and the other one I'm looking at is this... http://leeprecision.com/mold-d-c-456-220-1r.html that would have to be sized down to .454 or a little less... which the .454 round ball does when its loaded and shaves off a ring of lead.

Aloha...

[Hellgate]

Rattus,
Look under their BLACK POWDER molds. One is for the Ruger Old Army the other is for everything else. The ROA Conical is 220grs the one you want for the Remington is 200gr.

[Rattus58]

Originally Posted by Hellgate

Rattus,
Look under their BLACK POWDER molds. One is for the Ruger Old Army the other is for everything else. The ROA Conical is 220grs the one you want for the Remington is 200gr.

http://leeprecision.com/mold-d-c-450-200-1r.html

This is what found on lee's site... is this the mold you refer?

Thank you..... Aloha...