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Old January 15, 2013, 12:00 PM   #51
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45ACP Choices

45 ACP Opinions Based On One Pistol for CCW and Target Shooting
Single Stack For Sure -CCW
Since you Shoot , You know Barrel Length and Recoil Go Hand And Hand,
Try Out Some Stuff before you Buy Anything

My Choice Would Be a Light Weight Dancing Pony With Some Work Done
(Buy A Knowledgeable 1911 Smith That Understands The Browning Design) to Help With Your Recoil Concerns.

My Old 2 Cents
Hope It Helps

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Old January 15, 2013, 12:57 PM   #52
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Love my S&W 4566; big & beautiful.

Had XD 5" & XDM 4.5", didn't like how much balance point changes as mag goes from full to empty...
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Old January 21, 2013, 10:04 AM   #53
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about a week ago i was asking myself the same question - what would be a good ccw .45 acp. i bought a glock 36, and am well satisfied. i looked at the xds as well, but went with the glock instead. ymmv.
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Old January 21, 2013, 11:22 AM   #54
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Bersa 45UC...the newer version is the UCPro. Compact, durable, have carried and shot mine for years with never a single issue. Safe *and* ambidextrous.

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Old January 21, 2013, 11:35 AM   #55
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I live on the West Coast, so I don't have a good sense of how likely it is that you'll be allowed to carry concealed, but it doesn't sound like it's an IMMINENT decision at this point.

Given the above, I'd lean more towards a gun that is large enough to be enjoyable to shoot, and small enough to carry if needed, compared to a gun that is small enough to be easy to carry, but less enjoyable to shoot.

It looks like you'd found the best solution to your dilemma, one for carry AND one for the range.

Good luck with your new guns!

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Old January 21, 2013, 11:46 AM   #56
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I live on the West Coast, so I don't have a good sense of how likely it is that you'll be allowed to carry concealed, but it doesn't sound like it's an IMMINENT decision at this point.

Given the above, I'd lean more towards a gun that is large enough to be enjoyable to shoot, and small enough to carry if needed, compared to a gun that is small enough to be easy to carry, but less enjoyable to shoot.

It looks like you'd found the best solution to your dilemma, one for carry AND one for the range.

Good luck with your new guns!

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Yep, that's EXACTLY what I did. I ordered the SR9C and the DE1911G on Friday. Now it's just a matter of waiting! And with these crazy prices, I wouldn't be surprised to see my AK and all the ammo that I have for it going up on Gunbroker sometime soon. It's a fun toy, no doubt about it, but I don't really get to shoot it much and other than knowing it's in the safe, doubt that I'd miss it much.

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Old January 22, 2013, 05:07 PM   #57
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Another vote for the Kahr CW45...

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Old January 22, 2013, 07:32 PM   #58
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You're crazy to sell that colt!
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Old January 22, 2013, 08:30 PM   #59
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Get yourself a P-90 Ruger and feed it what you want. Generations from now they will still be trying to figure out how to wear that thing out.
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Old February 1, 2013, 02:04 PM   #60
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I guess it doesn't matter now... but...

I have a P45 and it is tough to beat. Very comfortable at the range, accurate, simple, effective. It's also very light and compact for CCW. The only downside to the platform, IMO, is the capacity - 6+1. ...But, it rocks. The more I use it, the better it gets too.

Anyway... just throwing it out there. If you want a more detailed opinion about the platform, PM me.
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Old February 1, 2013, 02:58 PM   #61
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S&W M&P 45C seems in the budget for the OP.

I have fired the S&W M&P 45C - although lighter than my
full size 1911 the recoil wasn't that different. Nice grip
shape on the M&P, and I liked the trigger, other controls
as well as the sights more than Glocks I've also tried.

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Old February 2, 2013, 05:54 AM   #62
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I may have mentioned before. A Glock 36 in a super tuck is a very hard combination to beat.
Accurate, reliable, simple as dirt, easy to take care of, easy to carry. Works for me.
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Old February 2, 2013, 06:04 AM   #63
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SR45 isn't even out yet. I have, but don't care for, the G-36

I'd get a Smith & Wesson M&P in .45. It's proven, it's available and can be had in 3 variations, not counting the grip options.

IL won't get concealed carry, so ccw use is moot.
This.

The M&P 45, IMO, is one of if not the finest poly Fullsize auto 45 going.
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Old February 2, 2013, 06:42 AM   #64
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If you own a pocket pistol I would look at the full size pistol. The way I look at it is if I have to carry the pistol in a holster on my belt I don't want a compact pistol. You have to dress the same way for either pistol. I have several pocket pistols for clothing that won't conceal a holster on my belt. It is just as easy for me to carry an XD with a 5.5" barrel as my Ruger P95. I am a big wide shouldered fellow, 6' 4", 250 LB. My size might make it easier to carry a large pistol. When my wife 5' 3" tall tries to carry a full size pistol the stock is nearly in her arm pit. She only tried it with my paddle holster.
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Old February 2, 2013, 08:44 AM   #65
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Last year, I finally splurged and got a gold membership to the local range, granting me free gun rentals. I tried many of the majors brand's side by side. There was no Ruger 45 at the time, but considering the characteristics of their respective 9mm guns I would vote Ruger pretty far down on my list. I preferred the XD, S&W, KAHR and GLOCK guns over the Ruger. The only thing I felt the Ruger was superior in was price.

On a side note, the only GLOCK I do not like is the 36. Compared to the GLOCK 30sf, the 36 has much sharper felt recoil. I think it is because of the skinny width of the grip. The 30sf spreads the recoil out over more of your palm, and the recoil feels much lower. (please, no pedantic physics lectures, I said FELT recoil) The new 30s might be a nice compromise since it will not have a big boxy slide. May take forever to get one though....
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Old February 2, 2013, 06:07 PM   #66
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Glock 30sf, XDM 45 compact or a S&W M&P 45 compact are good options. I have a Glock 30sf that I love. Handle them and see what fits best.
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Old February 4, 2013, 01:20 PM   #67
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one of them being the Kahr P45. I really like this gun - I like that the grip holds all of my fingers - no dangling pinky. ...I also considered the Glock 36, which seems to fit my hand well, also......

What say you guys?

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The Kahr P45 is thinner than any .45 Glock. Otherwise a toss-up. We have too many choices, life gets complicated... Seriously, just go with your instinct. Which one is more fun to hold, to look at, to field strip and clean. Generally a Glock will hold its resale value better than a Kahr. That has little to do with the quality of the pistol. A Kahr is generally a civilian defensive firearm, whereas a Glock is police, commando, badass, movies, G, etc. A Kahr may require a break-in, while all Glocks are out-of-the box ready. My P45 on the other hand has never once misfired since it was bought new.

P.S. Different trigger systems, of course. The Kahr requires a longer more deliberate pull, which I think is part of its personal defense personality.
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Old February 4, 2013, 08:09 PM   #68
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Looking for a good very reliable 45 acp that is good for concial carry?...look no futher then the (xds springfield 45 acp...amazing weapon in a small,light package
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Old February 4, 2013, 10:27 PM   #69
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If you like and are proficient with the 1911 models, I suggest the Springfield Compact Operator. Light weight for easy carry, even comes with a nice holster. At thirty feet offhand we were drilling 1" groups with it. The checkering isn't so aggressive it wears the shooter's hand, and they aren't expensive, IF they are still available in this madhouse and war profiteering market.
If you're not yet proficient, find a person who can teach to the manual of arms. it isn't that hard.
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Old February 5, 2013, 09:05 PM   #70
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You got a local range that does rentals?

That could answer a lot of your questions on what will fit you the best.
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Old February 5, 2013, 10:38 PM   #71
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You're crazy to sell that colt!
Want to buy it? I'm not looking to get rich on it.

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Old March 2, 2013, 07:41 PM   #72
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Well, as luck woudl have it, my FFL got both guns a day apart from each other. To say I'm thrilled would be an understatement. I stripped both guns down and cleaned and lubed them. Man, that Desert Eagle was really oily and dirty. I pulled the extractor and firing pin and cleaned those channels out as well. Also pulled apart the striker assembly on the Ruger SR9c as I've heard that some have shipped with grease in there that caused light primer strikes on some pistols. Hopefully I can make it to the range in the next week. I came back to show you all what I got, and also to thank you all for your advise and opinions.


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Old March 2, 2013, 08:18 PM   #73
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You will love that SR9c - its a great shooter. DE 1911 looks good. Bet you are a happy camper.

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Old March 2, 2013, 08:34 PM   #74
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You will love that SR9c - its a great shooter. DE 1911 looks good. Bet you are a happy camper.
Yes, I am. It was quite a surprise because I got both guns direct from the manufacturer through my NRA trainer discount program. The last response I got from Kahr (who own Magnum Research now), which was about 2 weeks ago, was that the backlog on the DE1911G was about 90 days, so I certainly didn't expect it so soon. Ditto for the Ruger.....I couldn't even get a reply from them, then all of a sudden it shows up at my FFL. Go figure.....but I'm NOT complaining!


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PS - Both guns have nice triggers, but the trigger on that DE1911G is AMAZING.

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Old August 15, 2014, 11:54 AM   #75
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Time to resurrect an old thread

Well, as typically happens with us "Gun Guys", here's how the evolution of this thread goes....

1 - Illinois DID get Concealed Carry. (and I became a certified instructor)

2 - I have been carrying the SR9C that was mentioned earlier

3 - And yesterday, I DID order a Kahr P45 with Meprolight night sights


The Ruger carries fine, but here's my justification (we can always come up with SOMETHING, right?) for buying the Kahr.

1 -And most importantly, I WANTED one. Haha.

2 - It's smaller and lighter than the Ruger for CCW

3 - It's a 45, not a 9. Read into that whatever you want to.

4 - Here in Illinois, we DID get concealed carry passed, but because the law was rammed through haphazardly at the final possible moment, we got a fairly convoluted law, with some VERY fuzzy verbiage. I am certain that we won't know how some of the law is interpreted until there's some case law behind it. So, not being independently wealthy or having time to mess around in court while my rights are infringed upon, I'm choosing to err on the side of caution. I don't generally USE public transportation, so that grey area is not a primary concern of mine. I DO every so often drive into the city of Chicago, where I predict the most blatant misinterpretations of the law are going to occur. The two most concerning to me are magazine capacity, and the legality of lasers in the city of Chicago. I feel certain that the preemption language in the Illinois CCW law put an end to those two things. The arresting officer may disagree. In other words, I may beat the rap, but not the ride. And since I'm not wealthy enough to challenge it, I'll feel better carrying a pistol with a capacity of 7 rounds, without a laser on it (I did order it with the night sights, though).

Pictures will follow once I have the pistol in my hot little hands. I'll do a size comparison between it and the SR9C as well....maybe with loaded weights shown, as well.


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