Quantcast
Which is a better 357 revolver: Python v SW 686 v Ruger GP100? - THR
THR  

Go Back   THR > Tools and Technologies > Handguns: Revolvers

Welcome to THR
You are currently viewing our site as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will have, access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!


If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please visit the help section.

View Poll Results: Which is a better 357 magnum revolver?
Colt Python 87 23.71%
SW 686 138 37.60%
Ruger GP100 90 24.52%
Tough call. They are at par with each other. 52 14.17%
Voters: 367. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old February 5, 2013, 02:04 AM   #1
el Godfather
Member
 
 
Join Date: February 4, 2012
Posts: 1,607
Which is a better 357 revolver: Python v SW 686 v Ruger GP100?

Dear THR:
Since a similar thread is going on 44 magnum, I would like hear your opinions and experiences with 357s as well. Particularly, with Colt Python, SW 686 and Ruger GP100. Which is better in your opinion and why?

Kindly share pictures if you can.

Thank you.
__________________
10mm: the stopping power over capacity debate ends here!

Got H&K?

Learn the basics: Glock 19!
el Godfather is offline  
Old February 5, 2013, 04:58 AM   #2
BrainOnSigs
Member
 
 
Join Date: July 11, 2006
Location: Saint Petersburg, FL
Posts: 671
Define "better".
I can see comparing and contrasting a S&W 686 and a Ruger GP100.....but a Colt Python is a whole different level of refinement.


This pic belongs to Dr Ken Lunde
BrainOnSigs is offline  
Old February 5, 2013, 06:47 AM   #3
357Shooter
Member
 
 
Join Date: January 24, 2011
Location: Murphy, NC
Posts: 162
686 and that on the Python☝
__________________
Scott
357Shooter is offline  
Old February 5, 2013, 07:02 AM   #4
WoodchuckAssassin
Member
 
 
Join Date: April 5, 2012
Location: Lynchburg, VA
Posts: 564
In many ways, they serve very different purposes. While I believe that they will all shoot flawlessly for a lifetime, not many poeple will carry - much less, shoot - their Colt Pythons. I don't think I've ever seen someone with a GP100 as a safe queen, so as far as a utilitarian weapon goes, the Python is somewhat excluded from this group.

I've never owned a GP100 or a Python, but I do own a 686 no-dash. Would I trade it for either of the other two? No. It shoots strait, can handle the hot stuff without worry, and has a light, crisp trigger to die for. The trigger of the 686 is much nicer than the GP100, and while I've never pulled the trigger of a Python, I am going to assume that it is like almost all other Colt DA's - Crisp as hell, but just a little stiffer than the S&W.
WoodchuckAssassin is offline  
Old February 5, 2013, 07:40 AM   #5
JRWhit
Member
 
 
Join Date: September 13, 2012
Location: MO
Posts: 696
I've got to give it to Ruger if we are talking about utility and use. The GP100 would be the work horse of the group. Maybe not the best,but the most usable.
I would be far more willing to use a gp100 on a hunt. The S&W wouldn't be a safe queen but would primarily be only used at the range. The python would only be pulled out on the rare occasion to make my friends drool,as it is the least replaceable of the bunch.I'm not sure the Python can be in the same group as it has become more of a rarely acquired relic, than a usable tool for hunting or paper punching. Case in point, Just watched one sell,6" stainless, for $1950.00.
The Smith is more usable but to some would still be seen as something that they wouldn't take to the field,depending on age and condition. The Ruger while selling at the lowest retail, is my pick for best with all things considered. Price is not so high to limit willingness to use, and quality is high enough that with proper care, it will most likely outlast the owner, and take pretty much anything you can load in it and spit it out other end with accuracy.
JRWhit is offline  
Old February 5, 2013, 07:44 AM   #6
CajunBass
Member
 
 
Join Date: June 2, 2005
Location: North Chesterfield, Virginia
Posts: 4,778
I've never owned either a 686, or a GP 100. They've neither one interested me at all.

But I have owned both Model 19/66/13/65, and Model 27/28 Smith & Wessons, and Ruger Security/Speed-Six revolvers, so I have some knowledge of what both companies turn out. I also currently own a Colt Python.
I wouldn't say any of them are "better" than the other. They're all about equal, in performance, just different in execution. If one shoots better than the other, I can't tell it. So I just say I like all three.

If I had to pick one over the other, I'd most likely pick a Smith & Wesson, but I've got a lot more experience with them.
__________________
For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him, should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16 (NKJV)
CajunBass is offline  
Old February 5, 2013, 07:59 AM   #7
hardluk1
member
 
 
Join Date: March 27, 2009
Location: nc mountains
Posts: 4,405
If it going to used hard and loaded hot only the ruger deals with that way better than the colt or s&w. If you see a nice looking dan wesson made in monson mass. or palmer buy it.
hardluk1 is offline  
Old February 5, 2013, 09:44 AM   #8
JRWhit
Member
 
 
Join Date: September 13, 2012
Location: MO
Posts: 696
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrainOnSigs View Post
Define "better".
I can see comparing and contrasting a S&W 686 and a Ruger GP100.....but a Colt Python is a whole different level of refinement.


This pic belongs to Dr Ken Lunde
As proven by the pic, if we are only talking looks,.........Well there it is.
JRWhit is offline  
Old February 5, 2013, 10:01 AM   #9
madcratebuilder
Member
 
 
Join Date: July 15, 2007
Location: Northern Orygun
Posts: 5,000
Not on your list but I would choose a S&W M27. Look at the DW M15-2's, it would be the most accurate of all of them.
__________________
A Veteran, whether active duty, retired, national guard, or reserve, is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to “The United States of America” for an amount of “up to and including my life.”
madcratebuilder is offline  
Old February 5, 2013, 11:42 AM   #10
RaceM
Member
 
 
Join Date: April 12, 2011
Posts: 606
Pythons are pretty, Smiths are smooth, and Rugers are rugged. Pick one.
RaceM is offline  
Old February 5, 2013, 11:45 AM   #11
CraigC
Contributing Member
 
 
Join Date: January 27, 2006
Location: West Tennessee
Posts: 11,061
Better for what???

For looking at?

For daydreaming about?

For hunting?

For accuracy?

For action shooting?

For a tackle box?

For concealed carry?

For duty use?

For mounting an optic?

For durability?

As a basis for custom work?

For resale value?

Best bang for the buck?

Etc., etc., etc..

The answers to all those questions determine the answer but only YOU can provide the answer.
__________________
"What we think, we become." - Margaret Thatcher

"Wise men learn by others’ harms; fools by their own." - Benjamin Franklin

http://www.sixgunleather.com
CraigC is offline  
Old February 5, 2013, 12:32 PM   #12
el Godfather
Member
 
 
Join Date: February 4, 2012
Posts: 1,607
Whats you answer for each of your question? Lets see which shows up more on your list.
__________________
10mm: the stopping power over capacity debate ends here!

Got H&K?

Learn the basics: Glock 19!
el Godfather is offline  
Old February 5, 2013, 12:47 PM   #13
firesky101
Member
 
 
Join Date: November 21, 2011
Location: California
Posts: 1,433
Tell you what. You send me one of each, and I will give you an answer
__________________
Yes, it's the apocalypse alright. I always thought I'd have a hand in it.
firesky101 is offline  
Old February 5, 2013, 12:50 PM   #14
CraigC
Contributing Member
 
 
Join Date: January 27, 2006
Location: West Tennessee
Posts: 11,061
My answers? I'm going to be strongly swayed towards an older S&W for virtually all DA purposes.

I think the Python is a handsome sixgun but I've never seen a 586 I didn't like. Or a model 19 for that matter. Add to that model 27's and .38/44's.

Same for daydreaming.

For a dedicated hunting sixgun a later model S&W will be more adept because they're drilled and tapped for scope mounts. Any of them will do for iron sight hunting but again, my preference would be S&W.

For accuracy, the Python wins hands down.

For action shooting, the S&W would be first pick.

For throwing in the truck or tackle box to be forgotten about, a stainless Ruger wins easily.

For concealed carry, any would do with a shorter barrel. S&W's and Rugers are easier to come by in short lengths. Either S&W or Ruger will do fine.

For duty use, probably S&W.

S&W is the only one of the three that readily accepts optics.

Ruger probably has an edge in durability but I think a lot of the rhetoric about Rugers being "built like a tank" and indestructible are overblown.

The Ruger is really the best platform for custom work. It is the only one that can be converted to a five-shot big bore .41Mag or .44Spl. While the L-frame can be rechambered to .41Spl or 10mm.

This is one instance where Colt's resale value is definitely ahead. Unlike SAA's, Pythons are no longer made and only going up. Of course, this assumes that you don't pay a collector premium today and expect to make a sizable profit in five years.

The Ruger is probably the best value. They're still quite affordable. New S&W's are way too high for what is no longer a better gun. Older S&W's are only going up. Good luck finding a good deal on a Python.

All that said, the 27 is probably my favorite double action .357. Followed closely by the 586, which for me would need new sights. I also love the model 19 but would load it more moderately. I have to say that a blued GP cut back to 5" (hate Ruger's angled underlug), slicked up action, fitted with custom sights, a bright blued finish and fitted with Herrett's Roper stocks would be strongly in the running but that's a lot to invest to get the same thing you get with a box stock 586.

My favorite .357 of all would be the Ruger Old Model flat-top Blackhawk in the 4 5/8" length.
__________________
"What we think, we become." - Margaret Thatcher

"Wise men learn by others’ harms; fools by their own." - Benjamin Franklin

http://www.sixgunleather.com
CraigC is offline  
Old February 5, 2013, 12:54 PM   #15
USAF_Vet
Member
 
 
Join Date: January 6, 2011
Location: Gun Lake, Michigan
Posts: 3,968
I think the Python is the best of the three, followed by the S & W, and the Ruger in a close 3rd.

For any social work, I would not choose the Python, only because they aren't made anymore, and if I owned one I wouldn't want to lose it.
A long barrel 686 is on my wish list.
__________________
Burn the land and boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me.

Brown coats unite!
USAF_Vet is offline  
Old February 5, 2013, 01:18 PM   #16
PabloJ
Member
 
 
Join Date: October 17, 2010
Posts: 4,078
Quote:
Originally Posted by el Godfather View Post
Dear THR:
Since a similar thread is going on 44 magnum, I would like hear your opinions and experiences with 357s as well. Particularly, with Colt Python, SW 686 and Ruger GP100. Which is better in your opinion and why?

Kindly share pictures if you can.

Thank you.
The choice is between S&W and Ruger. I would pick S&W because I could repair it if something would ever break. The Colt would be my last pick because it is no longer made and spare parts may not be available to fix it if something breaks.
PabloJ is offline  
Old February 5, 2013, 02:19 PM   #17
browneu
Member
 
 
Join Date: March 26, 2004
Location: ohio
Posts: 739
I for one like the cylinder release on the Ruger better than the python or smith.

Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2
browneu is online now  
Old February 5, 2013, 02:40 PM   #18
lobo9er
Member
 
 
Join Date: July 8, 2009
Location: Earth, Currently
Posts: 2,800
yep, I dig Rugers release button too.
lobo9er is offline  
Old February 5, 2013, 02:44 PM   #19
CraigC
Contributing Member
 
 
Join Date: January 27, 2006
Location: West Tennessee
Posts: 11,061
Have to agree about Ruger's cylinder release.
__________________
"What we think, we become." - Margaret Thatcher

"Wise men learn by others’ harms; fools by their own." - Benjamin Franklin

http://www.sixgunleather.com
CraigC is offline  
Old February 5, 2013, 03:12 PM   #20
Hammerdown77
Member
 
 
Join Date: April 29, 2010
Location: North Alabama
Posts: 604
Yep on the Ruger cylinder release. Also something to consider if you're a lefty (which I'm not, but my buddy is, and he prefers it for that reason).
Hammerdown77 is offline  
Old February 5, 2013, 03:14 PM   #21
rondog
Member
 
 
Join Date: June 29, 2007
Location: Commurado
Posts: 5,868
Put all three on a table, tell me I can have one for free, and guess which one I'll go dancing away with cackling with glee?
__________________
Ever feel like the world's a tuxedo, and you're a pair of brown shoes?
- George Gobel
rondog is offline  
Old February 5, 2013, 04:03 PM   #22
22-rimfire
Member
 
 
Join Date: June 11, 2005
Location: TN
Posts: 10,498
I prefer the Colt in almost every possible use unless I am going to abuse the revolver. In that case, I would get a GP-100.

Have always wanted a 5" 686 however.
22-rimfire is offline  
Old February 5, 2013, 04:06 PM   #23
Arkansas Paul
Member
 
 
Join Date: March 18, 2009
Location: Central Arkansas
Posts: 6,055
Quote:
My favorite .357 of all would be the Ruger Old Model flat-top Blackhawk in the 4 5/8" length.
Hard to beat that. Love the single actions. Purty grips too.
__________________
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences of attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it - Thomas Jefferson
Arkansas Paul is offline  
Old February 5, 2013, 04:07 PM   #24
HexHead
Member
 
 
Join Date: December 15, 2008
Location: TN
Posts: 2,210
I would expect the 686 to be ahead in the poll, if for no other reason than so many more people have experience with them than with Pythons.
__________________
"If it's a miracle Colour Sergeant, it's a short chamber Boxer Henry, point 4-5 caliber miracle." (Chard)

"And a bayonet Sir! With some guts behind it!" (CS Bourne)
HexHead is offline  
Old February 5, 2013, 04:30 PM   #25
jc650
Member
 
 
Join Date: May 19, 2008
Location: upstate ny
Posts: 110
Ill go with the Ruger cause I just bought a 6" stainless today!!!!!!! On that note I'd also like a 686 and a Python one day!!!!

Last edited by jc650; February 5, 2013 at 04:32 PM. Reason: spelling
jc650 is offline  
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:53 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBulletin Optimisation by vB Optimise.
This site, its contents, Shooting Reviews, and its contents are Copyright (c) 2010-2013 Firearms Forum, Inc.
IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER
Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages.