Ruger LCR .22 Magnum, not sure about this

bikemutt · March 7, 2013, 10:40 PM

I picked up a Ruger LCR in 22 mag this week. Having owned LCRs in the past I was looking forward to this little gem but the trigger is simply horrible. Some attributes are to be expected, like a long, hardish pull. This one is all that and a pound of sand. I spoke with my gunsmith about it, he said he cannot do anything with the rimfire LCR triggers, he's tried.

It feels as if it might break in and smooth out but right now I'm a bit discouraged. Anyone else have a rimfire LCR that would consider chiming in?

Indifferent · March 7, 2013, 10:46 PM

I do not have a rim fire revolver or a LCR, but I have always heard that rim fire revolvers are not exactly enjoyable in a double action pull.

silicosys4 · March 8, 2013, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Indifferent

I do not have a rim fire revolver or a LCR, but I have always heard that rim fire revolvers are not exactly enjoyable in a double action pull.

If this is true, I wonder why that would be....contributing factors that come to mind could be more cylinder mass because of the smaller holes....and that's about it...I can't see anything else being different except the shape of the firing pin.

Madcap_Magician · March 8, 2013, 11:21 AM

Trigger pull weight is almost always heavier on rimfire guns because of the extra force needed to guarantee a good primer hit. On small guns this is only compounded.

MedWheeler · March 8, 2013, 11:49 AM

^^ This. The FEG AP22 pistol I have (a rimfire version of the PA-63) has an all-but unusable first-shot trigger. It's a DA/SA pistol, so the hammer is at least cocked for the remaining rounds.
It takes more to mash a rimfire primer than a centerfire cap.

BSA1 · March 8, 2013, 11:55 AM

To shamelessly steal from the advice a S&W repreesentative once said when asked how was the best way to smooth the action on their revolvers he replied "Shoot it...a lot".

bikemutt · March 8, 2013, 01:09 PM

Let the shooting begin then

Thanks all.

MQP · March 8, 2013, 11:13 PM

Friends,
The trigger pull on the .22 Mag LCR Hurt my index finger after six rapid shots.
I cannot shoot it enough to break my finger in.
Like the .38 LCR; despise the .22/.22 Mag LCR.
MQP

bikemutt · March 8, 2013, 11:40 PM

I took it to the range today and pushed 100 rounds down the pipe. At 10 yards I had 100% on the paper and better than 90% in the 8" black circle. Lots of muzzle flash, very little recoil. The trigger is still what it is, I find if I just get a hold of it as if I were hanging from a roof using my fingers only, it works out. Its not a gun to worry about finesse IMO.

I like the gun, its a point and shoot. The lack of recoil makes it possible to more easily concentrate on fast and consistent target acquisition. And to move beyond the abysmal trigger.

Hoppes Love Potion · March 9, 2013, 09:52 AM

I never really warmed up to the trigger on my LCR-22. It's pretty bad, feels and sounds like a tinkertoy. I have to stage it to get good accuracy, otherwise the heavy trigger pull moves the muzzle all over the place.

Captain Capsize · March 9, 2013, 10:30 AM

I have noticed over the years that the trigger pull on small frame .22's is always hard. I believe it is a combination of features; besides the the primer hit needing to be harder on a rimfire the mass of the hammer combined with the short length of travel accounts for most of the need for a hard trigger pull. Notice that on the single action cowboy type .22's the trigger pull is light and crisp. Besides not having the need for the trigger to cock the hammer it is a heavier hammer with a longer travel. Just MHO.

Stainz · March 9, 2013, 12:04 PM

My 5" 63-4 and 3" 63-5 take more DA trigger pull than my 632 or 60 Pro revolvers to yield no ftf's - moot testimony to the greater fp strike required for dependable primer ignition with .22LR rimfires. Now step up in pressure to the .22 WMR and you'll need even more fp oomph - a stronger hammer spring and resulting harder trigger pull. Take the mass away, a la my 10.6oz 351PD, and that high DA trigger pull seems even more exaggerated as the little barrel wiggles as your finger's ligaments complain. Still, it's worth the effort.

My guess is that a Ruger LCR in .22 WMR would be more difficult to pull the trigger on than my 4" 651 (above). Right now, the only thing more difficult to pull in DA in my stable than my 4" 651 and 351PD - and by double or more the effort - are my 1895 Nagant revolvers!

Stainz

22-rimfire · March 9, 2013, 02:33 PM

It has always been my understanding that a 22 Mag requires a stronger firing pin strike than regular 22LR (brass thickness mostly). So, it would not surprise me that the 22 mag version of the LCR has a heavier trigger relative to the 22LR which seems to have a slightly heavier trigger than the centerfire versions.

WoodchuckAssassin · March 9, 2013, 02:42 PM

I've never pulled the trigger of a .22/.22wmr DA revolver and thought "Oh, that was enjoyable." To ensure ignition and prevent light hammer stricks, I think the springs need to be stiffer, which in-turn make for a 2 ton trigger pull.

alwen1 · April 23, 2013, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WoodchuckAssassin

I've never pulled the trigger of a .22/.22wmr DA revolver and thought "Oh, that was enjoyable." To ensure ignition and prevent light hammer stricks, I think the springs need to be stiffer, which in-turn make for a 2 ton trigger pull.

Manufacture shouldn't over sell their products. I have read that the LCR's trigger pull is from 7 to 9 pounds. When in reality the pull is more like 11 t0 15 pounds. You notice that trigger pull wt. is not mention in the LCR specs. I never would have bought one if these wts. were in the specs. It is promoted as a low recoil CCW for the elrderly and women. There is no recoil if you can't pull the trigger.

skidder · April 23, 2013, 10:59 PM

I sent two brand new defective LCR 22's back to Ruger. They wanted to send me a third, but I asked for an SP101 22 as a replacement and they agreed. It should be here next week sometime. I hope my SP 22 turns out to be a good one.

Not a fan of the LCR. I'll never buy another one. What I am a fan of is Ruger's CS. They were polite, cheerful, kind and really cared about my opinion.

bikemutt · April 23, 2013, 11:00 PM

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There is no recoil if you can't pull the trigger.

Or rack the slide, a vastly more common issue.

As far as manufacturers over selling their products, if, as you say Ruger doesn't mention trigger pull weight in their LCR specs, what exactly is your beef with Ruger?

Lagarto · April 24, 2013, 12:34 AM

I bought a S&W J frame in 22 MAG for my wife. She has small hands and not much strength. She could not pull the trigger in DA and hold the gun steady.

I tried a reduced weight trigger spring and hammer rebound spring. The trigger pull improved but the reduced trigger spring would not provide enough energy to set off the primer. I finally traded it.

Hoppes Love Potion · April 24, 2013, 05:28 PM

I have the LCR in 22lr and the S&W 351c in .22 magnum. The triggers of both are stiff and heavy but relatively smooth. The LCR trigger is a little lighter, but I like the Smith trigger better. Neither is much fun for target shooting or extended sessions, but the accuracy potential is there. I chose the 351c because I felt it was the best combination of power and capacity in a lightweight revolver.

March 7, 2013, 10:40 PM	#1
bikemutt Member Join Date: December 24, 2010 Location: Renton, WA Posts: 1,977	Ruger LCR .22 Magnum, not sure about this I picked up a Ruger LCR in 22 mag this week. Having owned LCRs in the past I was looking forward to this little gem but the trigger is simply horrible. Some attributes are to be expected, like a long, hardish pull. This one is all that and a pound of sand. I spoke with my gunsmith about it, he said he cannot do anything with the rimfire LCR triggers, he's tried. It feels as if it might break in and smooth out but right now I'm a bit discouraged. Anyone else have a rimfire LCR that would consider chiming in? __________________ They were just a bunch old dead white guys but they invented this country, and they meant what they said. The Second Amendment isn't about the National Guard or the police...It is about law-abiding, private U.S. citizens. Period. - Charlton Heston

March 7, 2013, 10:46 PM	#2
Indifferent Member Join Date: March 16, 2008 Location: Whittier Posts: 252	I do not have a rim fire revolver or a LCR, but I have always heard that rim fire revolvers are not exactly enjoyable in a double action pull. __________________ peAce

March 8, 2013, 11:21 AM	#4
Madcap_Magician Member Join Date: April 8, 2009 Location: Rochester, MN Posts: 1,066	Trigger pull weight is almost always heavier on rimfire guns because of the extra force needed to guarantee a good primer hit. On small guns this is only compounded. __________________ Hakkaa päälle!

March 8, 2013, 11:49 AM	#5
MedWheeler Member Join Date: June 14, 2008 Location: SouthEastern FL Posts: 2,374	^^ This. The FEG AP22 pistol I have (a rimfire version of the PA-63) has an all-but unusable first-shot trigger. It's a DA/SA pistol, so the hammer is at least cocked for the remaining rounds. It takes more to mash a rimfire primer than a centerfire cap. __________________ If Fort Hood was simply a case of "workplace violence", then 9/11 was simply a few "unruly passengers."

March 8, 2013, 01:09 PM	#7
bikemutt Member Join Date: December 24, 2010 Location: Renton, WA Posts: 1,977	Let the shooting begin then Thanks all. __________________ They were just a bunch old dead white guys but they invented this country, and they meant what they said. The Second Amendment isn't about the National Guard or the police...It is about law-abiding, private U.S. citizens. Period. - Charlton Heston

March 8, 2013, 11:55 AM	#6
BSA1 Member Join Date: April 20, 2011 Posts: 1,215	To shamelessly steal from the advice a S&W repreesentative once said when asked how was the best way to smooth the action on their revolvers he replied "Shoot it...a lot".

March 8, 2013, 11:13 PM	#8
MQP Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 15	Friends, The trigger pull on the .22 Mag LCR Hurt my index finger after six rapid shots. I cannot shoot it enough to break my finger in. Like the .38 LCR; despise the .22/.22 Mag LCR. MQP

March 8, 2013, 11:40 PM	#9
bikemutt Member Join Date: December 24, 2010 Location: Renton, WA Posts: 1,977	I took it to the range today and pushed 100 rounds down the pipe. At 10 yards I had 100% on the paper and better than 90% in the 8" black circle. Lots of muzzle flash, very little recoil. The trigger is still what it is, I find if I just get a hold of it as if I were hanging from a roof using my fingers only, it works out. Its not a gun to worry about finesse IMO. I like the gun, its a point and shoot. The lack of recoil makes it possible to more easily concentrate on fast and consistent target acquisition. And to move beyond the abysmal trigger. __________________ They were just a bunch old dead white guys but they invented this country, and they meant what they said. The Second Amendment isn't about the National Guard or the police...It is about law-abiding, private U.S. citizens. Period. - Charlton Heston

March 9, 2013, 09:52 AM	#10
Hoppes Love Potion Member Join Date: May 11, 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 330	I never really warmed up to the trigger on my LCR-22. It's pretty bad, feels and sounds like a tinkertoy. I have to stage it to get good accuracy, otherwise the heavy trigger pull moves the muzzle all over the place.

March 9, 2013, 10:30 AM	#11
Captain Capsize Member Join Date: September 9, 2012 Posts: 22	I have noticed over the years that the trigger pull on small frame .22's is always hard. I believe it is a combination of features; besides the the primer hit needing to be harder on a rimfire the mass of the hammer combined with the short length of travel accounts for most of the need for a hard trigger pull. Notice that on the single action cowboy type .22's the trigger pull is light and crisp. Besides not having the need for the trigger to cock the hammer it is a heavier hammer with a longer travel. Just MHO.

March 9, 2013, 12:04 PM	#12
Stainz Member Join Date: April 24, 2003 Location: Pinson, AL Posts: 3,022	My 5" 63-4 and 3" 63-5 take more DA trigger pull than my 632 or 60 Pro revolvers to yield no ftf's - moot testimony to the greater fp strike required for dependable primer ignition with .22LR rimfires. Now step up in pressure to the .22 WMR and you'll need even more fp oomph - a stronger hammer spring and resulting harder trigger pull. Take the mass away, a la my 10.6oz 351PD, and that high DA trigger pull seems even more exaggerated as the little barrel wiggles as your finger's ligaments complain. Still, it's worth the effort. My guess is that a Ruger LCR in .22 WMR would be more difficult to pull the trigger on than my 4" 651 (above). Right now, the only thing more difficult to pull in DA in my stable than my 4" 651 and 351PD - and by double or more the effort - are my 1895 Nagant revolvers! Stainz Last edited by Stainz; March 9, 2013 at 12:13 PM.

March 9, 2013, 02:33 PM	#13
22-rimfire Member Join Date: June 11, 2005 Location: TN Posts: 9,532	It has always been my understanding that a 22 Mag requires a stronger firing pin strike than regular 22LR (brass thickness mostly). So, it would not surprise me that the 22 mag version of the LCR has a heavier trigger relative to the 22LR which seems to have a slightly heavier trigger than the centerfire versions.

March 9, 2013, 02:42 PM	#14
WoodchuckAssassin Member Join Date: April 5, 2012 Location: Lynchburg, VA Posts: 390	I've never pulled the trigger of a .22/.22wmr DA revolver and thought "Oh, that was enjoyable." To ensure ignition and prevent light hammer stricks, I think the springs need to be stiffer, which in-turn make for a 2 ton trigger pull.

April 23, 2013, 10:59 PM	#16
skidder Member Join Date: March 26, 2011 Location: Montana Posts: 943	I sent two brand new defective LCR 22's back to Ruger. They wanted to send me a third, but I asked for an SP101 22 as a replacement and they agreed. It should be here next week sometime. I hope my SP 22 turns out to be a good one. Not a fan of the LCR. I'll never buy another one. What I am a fan of is Ruger's CS. They were polite, cheerful, kind and really cared about my opinion. __________________ Gun permit?? A bread crumb tossed to a sleeping society awoken by the sound of complacency. "They are for your own good", and "you will understand when you see all the lives they save". Yes master, what else will you toss me from your bag of infringements?? Do you want me to roll over and play dead? I do that very well. --skidder

April 24, 2013, 12:34 AM	#18
Lagarto Member Join Date: March 12, 2013 Location: Kentucky Posts: 22	I bought a S&W J frame in 22 MAG for my wife. She has small hands and not much strength. She could not pull the trigger in DA and hold the gun steady. I tried a reduced weight trigger spring and hammer rebound spring. The trigger pull improved but the reduced trigger spring would not provide enough energy to set off the primer. I finally traded it.

April 24, 2013, 05:28 PM	#19
Hoppes Love Potion Member Join Date: May 11, 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 330	I have the LCR in 22lr and the S&W 351c in .22 magnum. The triggers of both are stiff and heavy but relatively smooth. The LCR trigger is a little lighter, but I like the Smith trigger better. Neither is much fun for target shooting or extended sessions, but the accuracy potential is there. I chose the 351c because I felt it was the best combination of power and capacity in a lightweight revolver.