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Old April 17, 2013, 05:58 AM   #1401
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I think I'd probably shoot one of those little pigs in the brain if I was using that load and not finding it holding together well enough.

Otherwise, you could slow the load down a touch to reduce the violent expansion, or get a tougher bullet that doesn't violently expand at that kind of velocity.

How long is your barrel? Are you using an optic of any kind?
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Old April 17, 2013, 06:26 AM   #1402
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Barrel is 19.5 inches, 6 power scope, little guy was running at the time. Rifle is a zastava 6 shot bolt.
Thinking about it Ive had the same issue with goats and wallabies up close, at 200 yds I seem to get more controlled expansion, guess it is speed and bullet construction.
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Old April 17, 2013, 04:17 PM   #1403
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That's the problem. Go with FMJ and it just punches through and you have to chase your pig. BTW, those Zastava rifles are very nice. I'm assuming it's the one that looks like a smaller Mauser? (Remington sells or used to sell them here in the States)
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Old April 18, 2013, 12:24 AM   #1404
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Is that what they mean when they say PIGGYBACK???
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Old April 18, 2013, 04:02 PM   #1405
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Yep, its a m85 zastava, the so called "mini mauser" sweet little rifle rides as the bike gun most of the time.
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Old April 20, 2013, 01:08 PM   #1406
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Been cleaning out what my game camera picked up a few weeks ago, got dad and mum, and have been cleaning up the kids. Had my 223 today loaded with my std reload when I saw 4 little pigs, took them all thinking they'd be nice eating but turned out to be pulp.
The bullets didnt even penetrate just blew up killed them but ruined most of the meat, jacket pulled from opened wound is visible. When I picked up this guy he rattled. Sure glad the parents were already gone.! Bullet was a 55gr remington soft point over 26 gr of ar2208 doing 3220 at the muzzle range was 80 yds.
What do you AR shooters use ?BTW thats dad on the left
I've got a .223 pig load set up using the Speer #1053 70 grain Semi-spitzer soft point and Ramshot TAC that runs a little over 2700 fps.

I haven't had the opportunity to use it on a pig yet, but my research leading up to picking the bullet showed that it's quite popular with folks for 22-250 deer hunting loads.
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Old April 21, 2013, 12:16 AM   #1407
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A friend of mine north of houston. She dropped it with a .243.......
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Old April 21, 2013, 12:18 AM   #1408
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That's a big hog!

Atta Girl......!
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Old April 21, 2013, 12:25 AM   #1409
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I hope that your friend is not equating herself to a hog. I'm surprised she would even take the chance that someone (like me) would think that and allow the photo to be taken.
The women around here are paranoid about being exploited.
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Old April 21, 2013, 12:44 AM   #1410
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FYI, she's about 5'6"....... 'twas a big one
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Old April 21, 2013, 03:19 AM   #1411
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Anytime you see a boar that seems to have 'no neck' (has blended with the shoulders) and shoulders as thick as those, you know you have a mature (trophy) animal.

That particular boar carries his weight all the way back and probably stood 28" to 32" tall on the hoof. A very fine pig...in anyone's book.

Congratulations to your friend, she can be very proud of that kill. Many folks will never see a hog as good as that one.
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Old April 22, 2013, 12:28 AM   #1412
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I'd shoot that pig twice just to make sure before before I sat down with it excellent!
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Old April 27, 2013, 06:58 PM   #1413
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Perhaps I got the Alpha Sow ??

I took some time in the middle of the week to go hog hunting. Central Texas had a cool front pass through, and although we didn't get much rain to speak of, the temperatures did drop to record lows for this time of year. My experience is that cool weather sometimes brings the hogs out in the afternoon.

I spotted a small sounder about 4:00PM which appeared to include at least three decent-sized sows and perhaps half a dozen juveniles (shoats). I didn't observe any small piglets, but they were in some 18" weeds and near a slight rise so there could have been some in the weeds or on the other side of the rise that I couldn't see.

I managed to position myself for about a 75 yard shot with a fence post to use as a brace, and picked out this sow. She was the one I could see best, and seemed to be a good size. I was particularly looking for a hog to cut up for sausage.



She went down right away, but what happened next was just a little different from what I expected. Typically as soon as I shoot a hog the rest of the sounder high-tails it for cover like a bunch of greased pinballs on fire! The hogs usually don't waste any time making a beeline for cover at high speed. This time instead of a mad dash for the trees, they grouped up into a fairly tight bunch.

I was looking at the one I had just shot to make sure it wasn't getting up, but when I glanced up I saw the rest of the sounder grouped up. I thought about taking another shot but about that time they trotted briskly off over the rise toward the trees. They didn't take off like a bolt of lightening, they just sort of double-timed it out of there. I thought it was strange, and I'm guessing (really guessing) that perhaps I nailed the alpha sow and they rest weren't sure exactly what to do when the boss lady suddenly laid down for a dirt nap.

I certainly don't know what hogs think, but I did find this to be interesting.
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Old April 28, 2013, 04:43 PM   #1414
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I shot the lead hog out of a group of sows and pigs .. about 12 in all. The lead one dropped and the rest ran 50 yards and bunched up under the tree I was in. I was using a muzzleloader and couldn't reload silently enough to finish before they heard me and ran off. I have carried a Ruger Old Army with me ever since while hunting in primitive weapons season.

I think they were just confused and didn't know which direction was safe.
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Old April 30, 2013, 01:39 AM   #1415
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Hey Flint,

Ever see a hog come to feed during a thunderstorm? I had this ugly guy come through the night before last, in the middle of thunder, lightning, and rain! He stayed for over an hour hoovering up every trace of corn on the ground.



I don't have a pig measuring stick out there yet, but for a sense of scale, here's a shot of a raccoon in the same spot later that night:



He didn't show up last night, but if he decides to stick around, I'll definitely be staying up to shoot him.
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Old April 30, 2013, 08:02 AM   #1416
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Maybe you need to set up a water sprinkler at the feeder.
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Old April 30, 2013, 09:40 AM   #1417
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He's figured out that there is no competition for the feed during the storm. So he puts up with the thunder for the chance to get the corn.
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Old April 30, 2013, 01:29 PM   #1418
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Or he figured you wouldn't sit out there in a storm and he was safe.
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Old April 30, 2013, 09:46 PM   #1419
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I would donate to keep in him in California...
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Old April 30, 2013, 10:18 PM   #1420
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^^^^^^^^^^

John, that is a pretty good hog.

You never know how the weather will affect them.

If you get the chance (I know you are still busy with the house), go to that spot and 'back trail' him. See where he entered your property and from what direction he approached your tank (that's a pond for you non-Texans).

Good luck with him.

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Old May 2, 2013, 10:14 PM   #1421
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There's only two directions from the tank that they would likely come from, and every photo I've got has them coming from the same direction.

The property is almost entirely wooded, and there are definite trails they frequent.

I've tracked the trails back a ways, but enough of the property has thick enough brush that i need to take a machete to follow the trails until they leave the property.

Big Ugly has been a no-show since his deput, but I had a sounder of 10, plus two boars come by this morning, 45 minutes after I left for work:





Last time a group like this came through, they tore up a good portion of my tank shoreline with their wallows. Lucky for me, a cold front blew through this morning, so no wallows today.
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Old May 2, 2013, 11:34 PM   #1422
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John, those pigs are 'eating pretty good' someplace, they all look very healthy and have good weight.

You can see in the pic that the Sow is still bagged up and nursing....but she won't be for much longer. Those boars will hang around just long enough for her to 'come back into estrous' (which will occur shortly after weaning)...then they will move on...once she is bred back.

That tank is fairly close to your house isn't it?
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Old May 3, 2013, 12:06 AM   #1423
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I'm sure there's plenty of feeders on the neighbors' properties. There's something like 300 acres or so of wooded land in the direction they come from, and about that much on the other side of the road from me as well. They've got plenty of places to live without much worry of harassment.

This particular spot is about 50 yards from my back door, yes. Unfortunately, it's not quite visible from the door. If the wind is right, I can lay prone directly across the tank and have perfect view of this area while staying downwind. Today would have been just such a day, had I known they'd be there.
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Old May 15, 2013, 03:07 PM   #1424
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Just out of curiosity..where did all these hogs come from? I can't remember hearing about the hog infestation back in the day.
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Old May 15, 2013, 05:25 PM   #1425
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Just out of curiosity..where did all these hogs come from? I can't remember hearing about the hog infestation back in the day.
1hog + 1hog = 5.6 hogs x 1.5 times per year. You do the math.

Or here is a pretty good article on the subject.
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