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Old June 24, 2014, 10:11 PM   #1
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Stupid question: are the .308 Garands legal in CMP Garand matches?

Ok, this is one of those question I'm pretty sure I know the answer to but, I want to make sure I'm correct before I spend any money.

As the title states, are the various Garands out there, including the CMP "Special" grades so configured, that are chambered in .308 rather than 30-06 legal for use in the CMP Garand matches?

Going to be passing through Anniston AL (home of the CMP South Store) in about 3 weeks and am planning on stopping in at the CMP Store and possibly purchasing a Garand. reply to the E-mail I sent asking about available inventory stated that currently the south store has some field grade 30-06s and Specials in .308, and to check back closer to time of my trip.
What I would most like is a CMP Special in 30-06. But if the .308 chambered versions are legal for use in Garand matches, and the south store has .308 but not 30-06 Special Grade rifles on hand, I would likely "go with the flow" so to speak.

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Old June 24, 2014, 10:20 PM   #2
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See page 27 & 28 of the rule book.

http://www.thecmp.org/Competitions/CMPGamesRules.pdf

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Old June 24, 2014, 10:25 PM   #3
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thank you
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Old June 25, 2014, 01:30 PM   #4
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Check out pg. 38, rule 5.2.6. The CMP also has an "unlimited Garand" classification. I know you could compete in the JC Garand match at Perry in that classification. Maybe in the regional "games" too.

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Old June 25, 2014, 06:52 PM   #5
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I do shoot my .308 Garand in our local reduced course CMP matches. The match director knows what I am using and is okay with it. Were it a LEG match it would be an issue. But since no distinguished points are at stake everyone's easy going about it. Besides I'm never one of the top scorers anyways
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Old June 25, 2014, 11:44 PM   #6
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I do shoot my .308 Garand in our local reduced course CMP matches. The match director knows what I am using and is okay with it. Were it a LEG match it would be an issue. But since no distinguished points are at stake everyone's easy going about it.
Pretty sure I'd have the same here as well. But since it's sort of a right on the edge thing, and since most likely this will be the one and Only garand I ever purchase. I think I'll hold out for one in 30-06, be it a "Special" or a decent condition Service grade.
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Old June 26, 2014, 01:52 PM   #7
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I think I read somewhere sometime that the .308 Navy conversions were legal 'as issued' for matches.

But that isn't what the CMP is selling.

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Old August 14, 2014, 11:46 PM   #8
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Navy teams DID use 308's
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Old August 15, 2014, 12:57 AM   #9
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I live fairly close to CMP South. The last few times either my Dad, me, or the both of us went there together have been in vain. Haven't seen any special grades- either 30-06 or 308. Lots of rack grades. Plenty of barrels and bayonets. I think your best bet for a special grade is to order it. At least call ahead first so you're not disappointed.
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Old August 15, 2014, 01:14 AM   #10
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Update

Update:

Wife and I stopped by CMP south store July 12th, one of the first racks We walked up to had 3 30-06 chambered Special grades.

Bought a Special, 200rds of ammo, sling, bag of en-blocs, and a bayonet (wife has a thing about having appropriate accessories...)

so far the only things that I find that I don't love about the rifle are that the boyd's stock needs further finish work, and it's a real SOB to latch or unlatch the trigger-guard. but both of these will be addressed at a later date
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Old August 15, 2014, 04:55 AM   #11
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it's a real SOB to latch or unlatch the trigger-guard
That's a good thing! A tight stock is important for good accuracy.

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Old August 15, 2014, 12:17 PM   #12
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That's a good thing! A tight stock is important for good accuracy.
tight is one thing. Being so tight that a 350+ lb gorilla like me is "leaning into it" enough that i'm afraid that if the rifle slips on the bench I'm going break something, that's another.


I'd like to bring the amount of pressure needed down to a level where re-latching the trigger guard isn't the most dreaded part of field striping it.

I know that I can get that breaker tool that the CMP sells, but I'm not sure how it would work for RE-latching the guard...
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