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Old July 12, 2014, 06:14 PM   #26
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This is a good example of practicing law without a license.
Rusty, just curious as to who you are referring to there. Surely not Frank?

As stated, the best bet is to confirm this information with a lawyer or law firm/legal aid group.
That's precisely what Frank is.

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Old July 12, 2014, 10:48 PM   #27
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I'm speaking of the forum members who(like me) are sans a JD & are not "officers of the court".

I do know a guy who worked as a CT state corrections officer, probation agent & bail enforcement officer(bounty hunter) in the urban environs of the Nutmeg state, but Id need to reach out to him for details, re; homes/property/firearms.

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Old July 13, 2014, 12:04 AM   #28
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I gotcha.
I was thinking that most folks that have been around here for a while knew that Frank was indeed an attorney.

When discussing legal matters, his posts are definitely the ones I pay the most attention to.
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Old July 14, 2014, 09:00 AM   #29
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When my felon step-son was released on parole and moved in with us, I was told by his parole officer that my guns had to go. Locked in a safe was not good enough, had to be out of the house. Sucked, but he didn't stay long and I retrieved my firearms from a friend's house.
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Old July 15, 2014, 05:47 PM   #30
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I am not a lawyer, but I think that you may be missing a distinction between being on parole/probation and being a convicted felon who has served his/her time. If you are on parole/probation, the general understanding is that they could make you sleep at the jail, but are letting you live somewhere else so long as certain conditions are met. These conditions (even for those on probation for misdemeanors) often include "no firearms". I had a roommate facing charges for DWI, his lawyers told him if he pled to the misdemeanor DWI, he would likely get X months of probation and could not live in a house with my guns.

In this case, it was his house, and I was just renting a room, so I would have left if he had been convicted. If it were my house, and he had been convicted, he would have had to live elsewhere or my guns would have had to leave. The state can definitely control this, as he can opt to live in jail if he doesn't have a suitable place to live.

I believe that this is different from the case of an actual convicted felon who has completed all sentencing requirements. That person cannot posses firearms, where "possess" has the normal definition. Once the felon has served his time, the state has no control over what roommates and spouses can possess. The felon may have to prove that he didn't "possess" the contraband. For example, wife's shotgun locked in her safe, felon does not have access. Sitting out on her side of the bed would probably be a harder case to make, of course.
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Old July 16, 2014, 06:21 PM   #31
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would it be possible for the firearms details to be included in writing in the plea deal? That should take care of any concerns
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Old July 16, 2014, 06:36 PM   #32
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I would get a letter from the State AG and his PO before I would let him stay with me.
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