Quantcast
357 - pistol v rifle loads and primers - THR
THR  

Go Back   THR > Ammunition, Gear, and Firearm Help > Handloading and Reloading

Welcome to THR
You are currently viewing our site as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will have, access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!


If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please visit the help section.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old July 19, 2014, 11:35 AM   #1
lezmark
Member
 
 
Join Date: December 11, 2010
Location: Rancho Cucamonga
Posts: 45
357 - pistol v rifle loads and primers

I like the cartridge as well as the ability to use in rifles and pistols. Brass is not an issue, and neither is keeping loads separate which I plan to do. My questions: if I go camping say, and I have a pistol load of 14.2 grains of 2400 behind a 158 JHP (which I LIKE) any concerns running in a rifle? I also have some rifle 357 rifle load charts that call for a small rifle primer which I have bought, but not loaded or used yet. How important is that really v a small pistol v a small magnum pistol primer? Any concerns using a rifle load in my pistols (Blackhawks) and vice versa? thanks
__________________
Dillon 550B
lezmark is offline  
Old July 19, 2014, 01:54 PM   #2
ArchAngelCD
Member
 
 
Join Date: November 25, 2006
Location: Northeast PA, USA
Posts: 17,484
The whole idea of carrying a rifle and handgun chambered in the same cartridge is not needing to keep the ammo separate. Any good .357 Magnum load can be used safely in both. I own a Marlin levergun in .357 Magnum and i have never found the need to use a SRP. I usually load my top end .357 Magnum ammo with W296/H110 so I use a Small Pistol Magnum primer.

The only difference between firing the ammo in a rifle or handgun, the additional velocity you will gain from the longer barrel of the rifle.
__________________
Remember boys and girls, gun control only prevents law abiding Americans from owning guns because the Bad Guys donít obey the laws, no matter how restrictive or lenient the laws are!
ArchAngelCD is offline  
Old July 19, 2014, 02:07 PM   #3
Walkalong
Moderator
 
 
Join Date: November 20, 2006
Location: Alabama
Posts: 35,895
It doesn't matter that you are shooting a pistol caliber with a standard primer in a rifle, nor would it matter if you were shooting a mag primer in a handgun.

Use the primer that is appropriate for the load, and then shoot it in any gun you want. (Well, assuming it's chambered for it. )
__________________
Do you ever wonder why nobody ever robs the bag man for the mob? No, you don't.

"Oh bother" said Pooh, as he chambered another round. Author unknown.
Walkalong is offline  
Old July 19, 2014, 02:50 PM   #4
Schwing
Member
 
 
Join Date: June 3, 2013
Location: Layton Utah
Posts: 1,032
About the only issue you would ever run into using rifle primers in your revolver is that rifle primers tend to have slightly thicker walls. For most revolvers, this will not be an issue but if you have light springs or your revolver is prone to getting light strikes, rifle primers will make it worse.

I load the same loads for my revolvers and rifles for .357. I have never seen the need to keep them separate. The only reason I ever would is if any particular load was not accurate in both guns.
__________________
God created man; Samuel Colt made them equal
Schwing is offline  
Old July 19, 2014, 06:44 PM   #5
bluetopper
Member
 
 
Join Date: December 17, 2005
Location: Northeast TX
Posts: 2,842
I use rifle primers in loadings I use in my Marlin because they pierce pistol primers. No way would I shoot them in my Smiths.

To each his own.
__________________
I use Liberal tears for gun lubricant.
bluetopper is offline  
Old July 19, 2014, 09:37 PM   #6
USSR
Member
 
 
Join Date: July 7, 2005
Posts: 7,860
I use SRP's for my .357 Magnum loads for my S&W 686. They are less potent than magnum SPP's, and they work just fine.

Don
__________________
Never underestimate the amount of toil and angst a cheap SOB will put himself thru to save 50 cents.
USSR is offline  
Old July 20, 2014, 12:05 AM   #7
ArchAngelCD
Member
 
 
Join Date: November 25, 2006
Location: Northeast PA, USA
Posts: 17,484
Quote:
Originally Posted by bluetopper View Post
I use rifle primers in loadings I use in my Marlin because they pierce pistol primers. No way would I shoot them in my Smiths.

To each his own.
I can't count the number of .357 Magnum rounds I've shot in my Marlin using only pistol primers and I have never seen a pierced primer.

Why would a Marlin levergun pierce a primer where the revolvers wouldn't?
__________________
Remember boys and girls, gun control only prevents law abiding Americans from owning guns because the Bad Guys donít obey the laws, no matter how restrictive or lenient the laws are!
ArchAngelCD is offline  
Old July 20, 2014, 01:02 AM   #8
bluetopper
Member
 
 
Join Date: December 17, 2005
Location: Northeast TX
Posts: 2,842
Because they're loaded with quite a bit more powder.
__________________
I use Liberal tears for gun lubricant.
bluetopper is offline  
Old July 20, 2014, 01:11 AM   #9
ArchAngelCD
Member
 
 
Join Date: November 25, 2006
Location: Northeast PA, USA
Posts: 17,484
Quote:
Originally Posted by bluetopper View Post
Because they're loaded with quite a bit more powder.
So what you are saying is, the rounds are not .357 Magnum, they are something well over the SAAMI limits. In that case your results are not valid in this discussion because we are all talking about normal .357 Magnum ammo, not something that's already overpressure.
__________________
Remember boys and girls, gun control only prevents law abiding Americans from owning guns because the Bad Guys donít obey the laws, no matter how restrictive or lenient the laws are!
ArchAngelCD is offline  
Old July 20, 2014, 12:56 PM   #10
herkyguy
Member
 
 
Join Date: July 31, 2009
Posts: 1,010
I too load for a 6" GP100 and also a Winchester 1873 in .357. My only concern has been bullet velocity as some rounds will exceed manufacturers recommended velocity out of my .1873 but not my GP100.
__________________
Non Sibi Sed Patriae
herkyguy is offline  
Old July 20, 2014, 07:00 PM   #11
buck460XVR
Member
 
 
Join Date: February 6, 2007
Posts: 4,272
Quote:
Originally Posted by lezmark View Post
I also have some rifle 357 rifle load charts that call for a small rifle primer which I have bought, but not loaded or used yet.


..................and what published source gave you that?
__________________
Guns are like Harleys and women.....you can never have too many.


Theiyr're...........take that Grammar Nazis!
buck460XVR is offline  
Old July 20, 2014, 07:16 PM   #12
TommyD45
Member
 
 
Join Date: January 28, 2011
Posts: 41
If it is safe (stays within manufacturers loading data) in a revolver, it should be safe in a modern strong action like a Win 1892 or a marlin 1894. You don't even need to load them all that hot to get amazing results with rifle.

My own favorite load is 13.5 grains of 2400 and standard primers behind a cast LBT FN gas check bullet. I measure 1200 fps from my 4 inch GP-100 and 1680 out of my Winchester 1892.

If you are shooting a jacketed hollow point, you need to consult the manufacturer regarding the velocity range for optimum expansion. If you exceed the tolerances of the bullet, it may blow up on contact giving a shallow wound and inadequate penetration. I'd hate to lose a deer that way.

Tom
TommyD45 is offline  
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:01 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBulletin Optimisation by vB Optimise.
This site, its contents, Shooting Reviews, and its contents are Copyright (c) 2010-2013 Firearms Forum, Inc.
IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER
Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages.