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Old March 19, 2014, 06:05 PM   #26
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I wonder how much more power the "compressed nitrogen" pellet guns will have compared to the ordinary pellet guns. Anybody know?
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Old March 19, 2014, 07:57 PM   #27
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Springer ----- 1600+ fps .177
http://www.pyramydair.com/a/Air_guns..._1600_0T1650_0

Gas Piston----- 1500+fps .177
http://www.pyramydair.com/a/Air_guns..._1500_0T1500_0

PCP------- 1450+fps .177
http://www.pyramydair.com/a/Air_guns..._1450_0T1450_0

About the same I think.

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Old March 19, 2014, 11:41 PM   #28
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Cocking effort is ultimately the limiting factor in the spring-piston guns, whether the springs are metal or compressed gas.
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Old March 22, 2014, 02:25 AM   #29
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When i was a child many years ago, a kid in my neighborhood killed his own brother with an accidental shot to the heart with a pellet gun. Treat these pellet guns the same as you would any firearm.
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Old March 23, 2014, 02:14 PM   #30
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Yep, and for even more noise and power, Forget to clean a drop or two of oil from the bore, when fired, the oil will diesel ignite, makes nice smoke rings too.
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Old March 23, 2014, 07:47 PM   #31
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Today's mid-high end pellet guns are impressively powerful weapons and should not be used to just "scare something off." Especially the gas piston and pre-charged pneumatics.

For a "scare away gun" a variable pump BB rifle would be more appropriate.

"I wonder how much more power the "compressed nitrogen" pellet guns will have compared to the ordinary pellet guns. Anybody know?"

They aren't really so much more powerful, but more consistent and have a more pleasant recoil signature.
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Old July 30, 2014, 09:30 PM   #32
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I hope you don't mean that any .177 or .22 pellet gun is near or exceeding 22LR level, because my Gamo Big Cat 1400 shoots .177 pellets at 1400fps and is one of the most powerful rifles in that caliber and it's still 10 times less powerful, at 20 ft-lbs at the muzzle, than my 22LR rifle with Aguila Supermax 30 grain rounds shooting at 1750fps and 204 ft-lbs at the muzzle...

.357 and .50 caliber PCP pellet guns? Sure..
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Old July 30, 2014, 09:33 PM   #33
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Only the .357 and .50 caliber air rifles are near 22LR in power. Those are truly high end guns, though... A 22LR is still 10 times more powerful than 99% of the affordable pellet guns.
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Old July 30, 2014, 09:40 PM   #34
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I warn my HS students that today's pellet guns they are getting at Wal-Mart ARE NOT TOYS!!!!
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Old August 1, 2014, 04:31 PM   #35
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Decades ago the same thing happened to a doe in Lassen County. Some old lady wanted to chase away the doe from her flowers and shot it with a pellet gun. Punctured the lungs. The doe walked off and died.
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Old August 4, 2014, 01:45 AM   #36
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Fatal shooting of a human male with a Daisy Powerline 860:

http://www.heraldnet.com/article/201...WS01/140139770

Not exactly a high end rifle, but still proved lethal.
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Old August 4, 2014, 06:19 AM   #37
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Air

No .22 air rifles approach the .22lr in terms of power. Even subsonic .22lr cartridges produce about 100 ft.lbs. ME.
About the larger PCPs. I have a Sam Yang in .45 caliber. It does not shoot a 200 grain bullet at 730 fps......
Actual chrono'd data is a .457" lead round ball (144 grains iirc) at 704 fps. Quite accurate.
A 200 grain LSWC swaged to .458" at 603fps. Also accurate.
Powerful yes but no 1911.
Power is in the 160 ft.lb area for both.
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Old August 4, 2014, 02:23 PM   #38
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Wolves are great, majestic creatures. Until you need to live in an area with an unnaturally large population of them. It is not unheard of (not that I agree with it) for farmers to shoot them with pellet guns, or gut shoot them with a .22 so they will die a long ways off from where they were shot.
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Old August 5, 2014, 09:13 AM   #39
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Currently the first requirement for the BSA rifle shooting Merit badge is to explain why airguns should be treated exactly like rifles........

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Old September 9, 2014, 02:32 AM   #40
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Todays pellet rifles are pretty damn powerful. A person could easily get killed by one for sure. I just cant see trying to "scare" off an animal with a pellet rifle with a direct hit. A person could fire one off without the pellet and it sounds just like a .22 lr . As for a deer , shooting one with a pellet gun or bb gun,, it would be cruelty to animals and a nice long prison term.
That will wreck a nice spring piston gun, they need a pellet (a lead one!) to slow down the piston to a level where it is not destructive to the gun.
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Old September 9, 2014, 02:33 AM   #41
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Yep, and for even more noise and power, Forget to clean a drop or two of oil from the bore, when fired, the oil will diesel ignite, makes nice smoke rings too.
The dieseling is also hard on a gun.
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Old September 9, 2014, 02:42 AM   #42
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Assuming that the wolf was shot with a more common pellet gun.....

How close would the wolf had to have been to the gun for the pellet to penetrate as it did ??

Admittedly , the pellet didn't hit bone , but it still would have needed to penetrate the fur,the skin,an unknown amount of intra-rib muscle ( called intercostal muscle) as well as the pleura and still have the energy to puncture lung....

I'm thinking that this wolf must have been quite close. Probably damn scary for the shooter !!
I'm guessing it wasn't a big bore air rifle, as they probably wouldn't have used diabolo pellets and thus would not have identified it as a "pellet" rifle.
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Old September 10, 2014, 01:33 PM   #43
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Pig hunt with an air rifle:
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