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Old September 1, 2014, 10:04 AM   #1
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1911 scattered ejection?

My commander-size Ed Brown shoots fine, good groups, never a failure. Using handloads (6.2 Autocomp w/ 230 Xtreme plated). Find brass from 2 o'clock to 4 o'clock and from my feet out to about 15 feet. Any guesses as to what causes this or what to do about it? Thanks.
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Old September 1, 2014, 10:44 AM   #2
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I bought my first pistol (Browning Hi-Power) in 1969. Since then I've bought dozen of other semi autos of various makes and models. With the exception of those my [adult] children now have, I still have every one of them and still shoot most on a regular basis. Since I load my own, I shoot quite a lot; so does my wife.

What I've learned over the years with Browning, Smiths, Rugers, Springfields, Glocks and etc. is they all tend to pitch the brass in different ways. And none of mine have ever dropped it consistently in the same place. And that includes all rounds from the same load batch. Additionally, at one time or another they all have throw brass over my head, onto my head and such as that. I do find full power loads, or near full power loads, to be more consistent in their performance and brass pitching.

For me it's just the nature of the beast and we always spend time at the end of the session sweeping up brass from all over.

The only thing I ever did about it was to live with it. If the gun is reliable, accurate, removes the empty and chambers the next round as designed I'm happy.
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Old September 1, 2014, 04:43 PM   #3
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Variability in ammo, variability in how and where you hold the weapon, variability in the cycling process. If you aren't having failures then I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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Old September 1, 2014, 05:57 PM   #4
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My commander-size Ed Brown shoots fine, good groups, never a failure. Using handloads (6.2 Autocomp w/ 230 Xtreme plated). Find brass from 2 o'clock to 4 o'clock and from my feet out to about 15 feet. Any guesses as to what causes this or what to do about it?
Unless you're hoping to win a match by making bullseyes with ejected brass, ignore it.
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Old September 1, 2014, 07:57 PM   #5
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Your probably used to a Glock! lol

But changing your grip, angle of the gun, ammo consistency, you are going to get this. Loose ejector, extractor clocking, other things to check on a 1911.
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Old September 1, 2014, 08:38 PM   #6
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Your probably used to a Glock! lol
What if you are wearing a ball cap with a brim? Do the cases that bounce off your head still land in the same place, or will the brim of the hat deflect them somewhere else?
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Old September 2, 2014, 05:33 AM   #7
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when I am getting hit in the forehead with my 2nd gen glock 17 brass, all is well in the world.

be safe.
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Old September 2, 2014, 06:13 AM   #8
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What if you are wearing a ball cap with a brim? Do the cases that bounce off your head still land in the same place, or will the brim of the hat deflect them somewhere else?
I personally never have seen that with any of my Glocks. Never had a Gen 4 though....
Always in a neat little pile, that is if I'm not moving
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Old September 2, 2014, 07:42 AM   #9
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The only way to solve it is to switch to a revolver.
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Old September 2, 2014, 10:53 AM   #10
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when I am getting hit in the forehead with my 2nd gen glock 17 brass, all is well in the world.
I had a friend whose sister got burned by a hot piece of brass that went down her cleavage. After thinking about the angles, projections, and so on, my comment was, "My congratulations to your brother-in-law."
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Old September 2, 2014, 12:28 PM   #11
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Congrats indeed! As to the original question? Just the nature of the beast. Mine throw brass every which way, forewards backwards straight up. I even read a tounge in cheek explaination that it was designed that way intentionally so that the enemy couldn't exactly determine your location based on there the brass was found. Lucky derby has the only certain solution above. Use a revolver!
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Old September 2, 2014, 12:47 PM   #12
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Actually, on the M1911, the ejector has a great influence on the ejection pattern.

When the case is extracted, the slide is moving straight back. If the ejector gives the case a nudge at this time, it will only slightly deflect that rearward movement, and the case will come back at you.

If the ejection is slightly delayed, the case will still be in the ejection port as the slide begins its return to battery, and the case will be nudged forward, our of a collision course with your face.
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