The Essential "End the AW Ban" Contact List & Sample Letter Thread! - Page 2

CaesarI · December 10, 2003, 06:26 PM

bumpitty bump bump bump.

NY Patriot · January 7, 2004, 12:30 AM

Bump, because the AW ban is not going to fade into history without MUCH hard work & dedication on our part!

Lead, follow, or get out of the way!!!

Langenator · January 8, 2004, 09:55 AM

Bump!

Mods: How about making this thread a float?

Sam Adams · January 8, 2004, 01:04 PM

I second Langenator's motion to make this a float - this is THE issue in the RKBA world this year, and we need to keep as much attention on it as possible. If WE cannot get our own folks to write letters and make phone calls, then the AWB will be back even worse than it is now.

Zedicus · January 8, 2004, 09:37 PM

Yes, the AWB is to Important of an Issue not to Float.

DOWN WITH THE AWB!!!

NY Patriot · January 9, 2004, 12:24 AM

Guys, thanks for chiming in that this thread should be afforded a long-term float.

To be fair, it was floated for about two weeks around the time that I authored it, but then it was removed. On a couple of occasions, I E-mailed Oleg Volk, asking him to reconsider the importance of this topic. After consulting with some of his moderators, he got back to me with the response that while important, not every worthy thread can be floated on these forums.

If some of you seniors members would like to drop him a line & urge him to reconsider his decision, I would be greatly appreciative.

As Sam Adams put it... "This is THE issue in the RKBA world this year!"

Langenator · January 9, 2004, 06:33 AM

It's the most important issue, and it's only going to get bigger. The ban expires something like a month after the nominating conventions this summer (those are in August, right?). How much would anyone here like to bet that the Dems will be wailing about how Bush isn't serious about keeping sheeple safe because it hasn't been renewed?

Enough letters/email/phone calls to Senators/Representatives (especially the Democrat type) and they might just shut up about the whole thing. The key is to convince them that the issue is a loser.

January 9, 2004, 07:25 AM

This is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to me as well. I will be using a frankenstein of all of the templates contained in this thread. Thanks to all those who worked so hard on these, to make it easier on the rest of us.

mountainclmbr · January 9, 2004, 11:01 PM

I contribute to reelection campaigns. On any correspondence I write "publicly suppory repeal of AWB or this is the last support from me".

I also get invited to socials and dinners and am unrestrained in my criticism if the candidate does not support the Constitution.

Dave Markowitz · January 10, 2004, 12:11 PM

This thread really ought to be made a float, IMO. The AWB is the biggest RKBA issue we are facing this year.

Here's a letter I sent off to my (Republican) Congress Critters today:

Quote:

Dear Representatitve/Senator:

I am a Republican and I vote in every election.

In September the "Assault Weapons Ban" is set to sunset. I am writing to
urge you let this odious piece of unconstitutional legislation expire.

The AWB does nothing to reduce crime but does infringe upon our
constitutional rights.

I will be watching this issue with particular interest and it will
strongly influence how I vote in 2004.

Sincerely,

NY Patriot · January 11, 2004, 04:19 AM

Dave Markowitz...

Quote:

This thread really ought to be made a float... The AWB is the biggest RKBA issue we are facing this year.

What's that you said, Dave?

I couldn't quite make it out!

Langenator · January 11, 2004, 09:12 AM

Actually, I was doing a bit of speculative thinking...wondering more like...which get read more...floats, or regular threads that hang around at the top of the pile because they generate a constant stream of replies?

NY Patriot · January 15, 2004, 03:36 AM

Thanks to Prometheus @ AssaultWeb.net...

Quote:

Dear Senator/Congressman XXXXX.

I am writing to inform you of my feelings on a very important issue. As you are aware, an ineffectual and unconstitutional law is due to sunset in 2004. I am referring to the 1994 ban on certain types of semi-automatic firearms ("assault weapons"), and the production of ammunition magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds. I want to urge you in the strongest possible terms to oppose any & all attempts to renew or reauthorize this law.

This ban is an appalling violation of my rights and an affront to all American gun owners. This ban has also done nothing to combat crime since the firearms in question are only used in an extremely small percentage of gun crimes.
I’m sure you know that this ban has been a farce from the start. It banned semi auto rifles that looked "evil" because they have a bayonet lug and pistol grip on them. These are not assault weapons. They are not machine guns. I like to call them Homeland Defense rifles. It is a farce that criminals use these types of rifles in crimes. A criminal who intends to rob the corner store sure doesn’t carry in a semi auto rifle that is difficult to conceal. They use small handguns, which are not normally acquired through legal channels. Banning weapons because of how they look is just plain ridiculous feel good nonsense.

I urge you to remember the oath you took when you entered office and fight to ensure that this law dies later this year and stays dead. If you choose to side with your antigun colleagues on this issue, rest assured that I will not be voting for you in the next election.

A response to this letter will be deeply appreciated.

Regards,

BTR · January 15, 2004, 10:40 AM

I've used these addresses sev. times... very nice.

NY Patriot · January 18, 2004, 01:38 AM

Folks, first off, I want to thank everyone who has taken the time & effort to sit down & write letters. I know all too well that this can be a tedious chore, but alas, it must be done!

I also wanted to point out that it is vitally important that we contact EVERYONE on the list, not just our local congresscritter & our two Senators. Take me as an example... my Senators are Chuckie Schumer & Madam Hillary, and my Rep. is Nita Lowey, a hard core leftist. If I only wrote to them, my opinions would be virtually guaranteed of being ignored, and my efforts would be for naught.

BUT... I make sure that everyone who could potentially have a hand in the outcome of the AW ban battle hears from me! The POTUS represents EVERY American, thus he hears from me. I'm a registered Republican, so the RNC gets an earful. I'm also an NRA member, so guess what... they are beholden to my views & opinions if they want the continued privilege of spending my money. All the Congressional & Senatorial committee members, as well as the House & Senate leaders & Speakers are, by virtue of their exalted positions, answerable to ALL Americans, not just those living in their districts & states.

You get the idea... our letter writing responsibilities extend FAR beyond our district & state boundaries!!!

It's also very important that we all write, write, and write again! We have less than a year to win this fight & we need to keep the pressure on HIGH! The only way the relevant politicians & organizations will know that our will is strong & unwavering is if we continuously and relentlessly badger them until the ban is gone.
I know it's a PITA, but we really, really need to write the names on the list MULTIPLE TIMES. There is no easy or lazy way around this fact... it just needs to be done!!!

Well, I'll get off my soapbox (for now), but just realize that this is our fight to lose. The AW ban is a goner IF we remain active involved & unified!

Thanks.

NY Patriot · January 30, 2004, 01:13 AM

Tick, tick, tick...

That's the sound of your ability to influence the AW debate slipping into the future...

Only eight months to go folks!!!

This is THE RKBA battle of the decade, and it's our fight to lose... let's not blow it!!!

TXBera · February 1, 2004, 09:40 AM

I'm writing mine, are you?

Edit: In the process of writing and would it sound better to call the AWB by it's proper name of VCCA of '94, or the assault weapons ban?

**Art Eatman** · February 1, 2004, 10:33 AM

TXBera, the odds are by now that they all know, reflexively, what you're referring to with "Assault Weapons Ban"; the other might require a moment's thought.

Let's not strain the poor dears any more than we have to...

Art

CaesarI · February 3, 2004, 12:10 PM

By referring to it specifically, by the name of the law, and the speicific section under the law, you may convince them that you know rather a lot about the topic.

There's an upside and a downside to this.

Upside: You're educated, and intelligent, and likely involved enough to persuade a few other of my potential voters.

Downside: You're a serious activist, and more likely to be seen as a wacko than influential. Possible the letter may be dismissed, as Art noted, because they dunno what you're talkin' about.

Can't make heads or tails of it myself.

-Morgan

Langenator · February 3, 2004, 08:03 PM

Bump.

Everyone go pester your Congresscritters come more.

Peetmoss · February 3, 2004, 08:03 PM

Letters done for all my reps tommorow set asside for the other reps listed. And consider this a bump Please float this mods.

Dave Markowitz · February 3, 2004, 08:37 PM

Bump.

N3rday · February 3, 2004, 09:07 PM

You would be surprised how much difference letters make...it is rare nowadays for people to even know how to address a letter, and trust me, they listen to the snail mail!

someone needs to make this a float, PLEASE!
PLEASE!

I don't wanna turn 18 and not be able to get that CETME!

NY Patriot · February 4, 2004, 01:52 AM

N3rday...

Quote:

Someone needs to make this a float, PLEASE!
PLEASE!

From your lips to Oleg Volk's inbox, my friend!

4570Rick · February 4, 2004, 03:01 AM

I agree this is the issue this year. Here's what I've come up with. Using the letters as templates, I've made up letters for all the committy members, my Congress critter Loretta Sanchez, my Senators Terminator 1 & 2, Karl Rove, Gillespie, Hastert, DeLay, and a few others. Using about 20 slightly different letters and rotating them between the 20 or so politicos, I've got 1 letter per person for the next 20 weeks stamped and sealed. I've mailed 3 weeks worth so far. Each Monday, I take another 20 out to the mail box. My mail man has thanked me for the job security.

400 sheets of printer paper...$3.25
400 envelopes.......................$8.00
400 postage stamps..........$148.00
Copy service at Kinkos.........$12.57
Preserving our rights........Priceless

December 10, 2003, 06:26 PM	#26
CaesarI Member Join Date: January 29, 2003 Location: KS Posts: 406	bumpitty bump bump bump. __________________ TFL Alumnus, PCT, TF \|\| Keep the ban dead! \|\| Got 5 Mins? МОΛΏΝ ΛΑΒΈ! \|\| Fight that Ticket! \|\| Intellectual Cavalry Lose that nickel plated sissy browser!

January 8, 2004, 09:55 AM	#28
Langenator Member Join Date: July 30, 2003 Location: Ft Belvoir, VA Posts: 2,681	Bump! Mods: How about making this thread a float? __________________ World domination has encountered a momentary setback. Talk amongst yourselves. Heartless Libertarian

January 8, 2004, 01:04 PM	#29
Sam Adams Member Join Date: January 28, 2003 Location: South Texas Posts: 2,035	Admin Moderator I second Langenator's motion to make this a float - this is THE issue in the RKBA world this year, and we need to keep as much attention on it as possible. If WE cannot get our own folks to write letters and make phone calls, then the AWB will be back even worse than it is now. __________________ "The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." Sam Adams "Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American." Tench Coxe "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined." Patrick Henry

January 8, 2004, 09:37 PM	#30
Zedicus Member Join Date: June 30, 2003 Location: Idaho Posts: 1,976	Yes, the AWB is to Important of an Issue not to Float. DOWN WITH THE AWB!!! __________________ Click Here \| www.opencarry.org =============================== www.nra.org \| www.gunowners.org \| www.jpfo.org \| www.nfaoa.org

January 9, 2004, 06:33 AM	#32
Langenator Member Join Date: July 30, 2003 Location: Ft Belvoir, VA Posts: 2,681	It's the most important issue, and it's only going to get bigger. The ban expires something like a month after the nominating conventions this summer (those are in August, right?). How much would anyone here like to bet that the Dems will be wailing about how Bush isn't serious about keeping sheeple safe because it hasn't been renewed? Enough letters/email/phone calls to Senators/Representatives (especially the Democrat type) and they might just shut up about the whole thing. The key is to convince them that the issue is a loser. __________________ World domination has encountered a momentary setback. Talk amongst yourselves. Heartless Libertarian

January 7, 2004, 12:30 AM	#27
NY Patriot Member Join Date: July 18, 2003 Location: NY Posts: 171	Bump, because the AW ban is not going to fade into history without MUCH hard work & dedication on our part! Lead, follow, or get out of the way!!!

January 9, 2004, 12:24 AM	#31
NY Patriot Member Join Date: July 18, 2003 Location: NY Posts: 171	Guys, thanks for chiming in that this thread should be afforded a long-term float. To be fair, it was floated for about two weeks around the time that I authored it, but then it was removed. On a couple of occasions, I E-mailed Oleg Volk, asking him to reconsider the importance of this topic. After consulting with some of his moderators, he got back to me with the response that while important, not every worthy thread can be floated on these forums. If some of you seniors members would like to drop him a line & urge him to reconsider his decision, I would be greatly appreciative. As Sam Adams put it... "This is THE issue in the RKBA world this year!"

January 9, 2004, 07:25 AM	#33
BeLikeTrey Guest Posts: n/a	My first official bump! This is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to me as well. I will be using a frankenstein of all of the templates contained in this thread. Thanks to all those who worked so hard on these, to make it easier on the rest of us.

January 9, 2004, 11:01 PM	#34
mountainclmbr Member Join Date: October 25, 2003 Location: On top of a mountain in Colorado Posts: 1,290	I contribute to reelection campaigns. On any correspondence I write "publicly suppory repeal of AWB or this is the last support from me". I also get invited to socials and dinners and am unrestrained in my criticism if the candidate does not support the Constitution. __________________ Best wishes to alll. Signing out from the so called "THR".

January 11, 2004, 09:12 AM	#37
Langenator Member Join Date: July 30, 2003 Location: Ft Belvoir, VA Posts: 2,681	Actually, I was doing a bit of speculative thinking...wondering more like...which get read more...floats, or regular threads that hang around at the top of the pile because they generate a constant stream of replies? __________________ World domination has encountered a momentary setback. Talk amongst yourselves. Heartless Libertarian

January 15, 2004, 10:40 AM	#39
BTR Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 650	I've used these addresses sev. times... very nice.

January 18, 2004, 01:38 AM	#40
NY Patriot Member Join Date: July 18, 2003 Location: NY Posts: 171	Folks, first off, I want to thank everyone who has taken the time & effort to sit down & write letters. I know all too well that this can be a tedious chore, but alas, it must be done! I also wanted to point out that it is vitally important that we contact EVERYONE on the list, not just our local congresscritter & our two Senators. Take me as an example... my Senators are Chuckie Schumer & Madam Hillary, and my Rep. is Nita Lowey, a hard core leftist. If I only wrote to them, my opinions would be virtually guaranteed of being ignored, and my efforts would be for naught. BUT... I make sure that everyone who could potentially have a hand in the outcome of the AW ban battle hears from me! The POTUS represents EVERY American, thus he hears from me. I'm a registered Republican, so the RNC gets an earful. I'm also an NRA member, so guess what... they are beholden to my views & opinions if they want the continued privilege of spending my money. All the Congressional & Senatorial committee members, as well as the House & Senate leaders & Speakers are, by virtue of their exalted positions, answerable to ALL Americans, not just those living in their districts & states. You get the idea... our letter writing responsibilities extend FAR beyond our district & state boundaries!!! It's also very important that we all write, write, and write again! We have less than a year to win this fight & we need to keep the pressure on HIGH! The only way the relevant politicians & organizations will know that our will is strong & unwavering is if we continuously and relentlessly badger them until the ban is gone. I know it's a PITA, but we really, really need to write the names on the list MULTIPLE TIMES. There is no easy or lazy way around this fact... it just needs to be done!!! Well, I'll get off my soapbox (for now), but just realize that this is our fight to lose. The AW ban is a goner IF we remain active involved & unified! Thanks.

January 30, 2004, 01:13 AM	#41
NY Patriot Member Join Date: July 18, 2003 Location: NY Posts: 171	Tick, tick, tick... That's the sound of your ability to influence the AW debate slipping into the future... Only eight months to go folks!!! This is THE RKBA battle of the decade, and it's our fight to lose... let's not blow it!!!

February 1, 2004, 09:40 AM	#42
TXBera Member Join Date: October 3, 2003 Location: Carrollton Posts: 111	I'm writing mine, are you? Edit: In the process of writing and would it sound better to call the AWB by it's proper name of VCCA of '94, or the assault weapons ban? __________________ Marlin Model 60 in .22LR Yugo SKS 59/66 in 7.62x39 Springfield Armory M1911-A1 Mil-Spec in .45ACP

February 1, 2004, 10:33 AM	#43
Art Eatman Administrator Join Date: December 22, 2002 Location: Terlingua, Texas Posts: 26,311	TXBera, the odds are by now that they all know, reflexively, what you're referring to with "Assault Weapons Ban"; the other might require a moment's thought. Let's not strain the poor dears any more than we have to... Art

February 3, 2004, 12:10 PM	#44
CaesarI Member Join Date: January 29, 2003 Location: KS Posts: 406	By referring to it specifically, by the name of the law, and the speicific section under the law, you may convince them that you know rather a lot about the topic. There's an upside and a downside to this. Upside: You're educated, and intelligent, and likely involved enough to persuade a few other of my potential voters. Downside: You're a serious activist, and more likely to be seen as a wacko than influential. Possible the letter may be dismissed, as Art noted, because they dunno what you're talkin' about. Can't make heads or tails of it myself. -Morgan __________________ TFL Alumnus, PCT, TF \|\| Keep the ban dead! \|\| Got 5 Mins? МОΛΏΝ ΛΑΒΈ! \|\| Fight that Ticket! \|\| Intellectual Cavalry Lose that nickel plated sissy browser!

February 3, 2004, 08:03 PM	#45
Langenator Member Join Date: July 30, 2003 Location: Ft Belvoir, VA Posts: 2,681	Bump. Everyone go pester your Congresscritters come more. __________________ World domination has encountered a momentary setback. Talk amongst yourselves. Heartless Libertarian

February 3, 2004, 08:03 PM	#46
Peetmoss Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Location: Syracuse NY Posts: 604	Letters done for all my reps tommorow set asside for the other reps listed. And consider this a bump Please float this mods. __________________ Life sucks then you DIE

February 3, 2004, 08:37 PM	#47
Dave Markowitz Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA Posts: 5,120	Bump. __________________ Dave Markowitz ---- Dave's Blog O'Stuff :: The Shooter's Bar(SM) - Progun Attorneys :: The Rally Point

February 3, 2004, 09:07 PM	#48
N3rday Member Join Date: November 16, 2003 Location: TX Posts: 772	You would be surprised how much difference letters make...it is rare nowadays for people to even know how to address a letter, and trust me, they listen to the snail mail! someone needs to make this a float, PLEASE! PLEASE! I don't wanna turn 18 and not be able to get that CETME!

February 4, 2004, 03:01 AM	#50
4570Rick Member Join Date: December 25, 2002 Location: South of Left Angeles in Casa De Santa Ana, Cauleefornya Posts: 1,188	I agree this is the issue this year. Here's what I've come up with. Using the letters as templates, I've made up letters for all the committy members, my Congress critter Loretta Sanchez, my Senators Terminator 1 & 2, Karl Rove, Gillespie, Hastert, DeLay, and a few others. Using about 20 slightly different letters and rotating them between the 20 or so politicos, I've got 1 letter per person for the next 20 weeks stamped and sealed. I've mailed 3 weeks worth so far. Each Monday, I take another 20 out to the mail box. My mail man has thanked me for the job security. 400 sheets of printer paper...$3.25 400 envelopes.......................$8.00 400 postage stamps..........$148.00 Copy service at Kinkos.........$12.57 Preserving our rights........Priceless __________________ TFL Alumnus Molon labe Stupidity should be painful. Airplane Pictures

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