Pricecheck: Winchester Black Talon 10mm

**Coronach** · December 23, 2002, 06:33 PM

I bumped into this price at a small-town gunstore while on vacation. $10 for a box of 20 cartridges, Winchester 200gr SXT 10mm, complete with the dreaded "Black Talon" logo. They were askig $19.95 a box

and said it had been sitting there "forever." Gee, wonder why?

The funny thing is, this is the best deal in town for 10mm...I just need to know if I should buy any more of this than I plan to immediately shoot.

Mike

C.R.Sam · December 23, 2002, 07:39 PM

Would be a gamble but....
At that price, could grab em all and auction em off.
A while back, folks were getting insane prices for that stuff.
Says Black talon on box.....
That's the biggie.

Sam

Tamara · December 23, 2002, 08:30 PM

The funny thing about 10mm Talons? They're pretty sluggish as far as 10mm loadings go; they came out at the height of the "subsonic" craze.

Subsonic 10mm Auto makes about as much sense as subsonic .357 Magnum, if you think about it for a minute...

Will Fennell · December 24, 2002, 02:38 PM

Coronach,
I really liked the 10mm Black Talon load. I am most definately a fan of "spirited" 10mm loads, but the BT performed better than the numbers would lead you to believe. I remember choro'ing the stuff @ a little above 1000 fps. but it grouped very well in the custom Delta I was using it in. The bullets performed VERY WELL on a few wild hogs I shot with it.....better than some of the faster, lighter bullets. Much better on game than Silvertips

The long, heavy 200gr bullet had great sectional density......it penetrated well, and always expanded. I would buy a case of it if I could find it at original prices.

BTW, this is my first post here on the new forum.....I think I like it already!

Brad · December 24, 2002, 11:33 PM

A guhshop near me has a dozen boxes on the shelf for $30 each. Seems about average for what I've seen lately.

3 gun · December 25, 2002, 12:46 AM

That's a good price for a premium ammo. I'd buy all I could get.

12-34hom · December 25, 2002, 01:30 AM

Black Talon was over hyped.

There are much better factory loadings for the 10mm around at cheaper prices.

12-34hom.

Nosferatu · December 25, 2002, 04:55 AM

From what I have seen on the auction boards, $30-$40/box is the norm. If these are for real, that is a pretty good price. I would buy some up to keep/carry and shoot the rest.

redneck2 · December 25, 2002, 09:10 AM

we were selling them at our store for $30-40 a box. "Collectors" wanted them.

Sell 'em, make 300%, and use the money for something you want

If they had 10 boxes you could make enough to buy a gun

ArmaLube · December 25, 2002, 06:32 PM

Buy 'em all! You will be glad you did.

NEon · December 30, 2002, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Coronach
I bumped into this price at a small-town gunstore while on vacation. $10 for a box of 20 cartridges, Winchester 200gr SXT 10mm, complete with the dreaded "Black Talon" logo. They were askig $19.95 a box and said it had been sitting there "forever." Gee, wonder why?

The funny thing is, this is the best deal in town for 10mm...I just need to know if I should buy any more of this than I plan to immediately shoot.

Mike

Buy 'em all.

WonderNine · December 30, 2002, 04:35 PM

You could buy them and try selling them on gunbilker. You probably won't get much more than you payed for them though.

duncan · December 31, 2002, 03:30 AM

I would pass on them. Now, they're just a gimmick.

Seem like lots of LEAs kept issue the Talons and officers apparenly could not shoot through all of their issued ammo, so friends get it on the low down and it resurfaces years later on eBay. Sorry but I like fresh ammo for carry.

For REAL hot and heavy 10mm ammo:

175 grain Win Silvertips - all day for $11 a box. Great in full sized 10mm's like a Glock 20 like mine!

Or for faster, 155 ProLoad Gold Dots for some real hummers out of shorter barrelled 10mm like a Glock 29.

91101 · December 31, 2002, 12:42 PM

$35 a box at the gun show I was at Friday night... I didn't buy any.. At $10 I probably would have.... Maybe pull the bullets and reload them? I don't know if it would be worth the hassle?

Michael

Sean Smith · December 31, 2002, 12:57 PM

Those 200gr BTs really have no reason to exist except as money-making gimmick. Blah ballistics and the "magic bullet" is nothing special. If you have a suppressed 10mm I'd say go for it, though.

December 23, 2002, 06:33 PM	#1
Coronach Moderator Join Date: December 20, 2002 Posts: 10,470	Pricecheck: Winchester Black Talon 10mm I bumped into this price at a small-town gunstore while on vacation. $10 for a box of 20 cartridges, Winchester 200gr SXT 10mm, complete with the dreaded "Black Talon" logo. They were askig $19.95 a box and said it had been sitting there "forever." Gee, wonder why? The funny thing is, this is the best deal in town for 10mm...I just need to know if I should buy any more of this than I plan to immediately shoot. Mike __________________ How is my M&P40 shooting? 99.78% reliable. (This is, unfortunately, out of date...it's only gotten better, I just need to put in the data). Wanted to Buy: vz24, Swedish, Siamese and various contract Mausers, in excellent condition (no scrubbed crests, please). Also, looking for a BHP in Ohio for FTF.

December 23, 2002, 08:30 PM	#3
Tamara Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2002 Location: On a mountaintop in Tennessee Posts: 9,325	The funny thing about 10mm Talons? They're pretty sluggish as far as 10mm loadings go; they came out at the height of the "subsonic" craze. Subsonic 10mm Auto makes about as much sense as subsonic .357 Magnum, if you think about it for a minute... __________________ MOLON LABE! Books. Bikes. Boomsticks.

December 24, 2002, 02:38 PM	#4
Will Fennell Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Location: Rock Hill, SC USA Posts: 686	Coronach, I really liked the 10mm Black Talon load. I am most definately a fan of "spirited" 10mm loads, but the BT performed better than the numbers would lead you to believe. I remember choro'ing the stuff @ a little above 1000 fps. but it grouped very well in the custom Delta I was using it in. The bullets performed VERY WELL on a few wild hogs I shot with it.....better than some of the faster, lighter bullets. Much better on game than Silvertips The long, heavy 200gr bullet had great sectional density......it penetrated well, and always expanded. I would buy a case of it if I could find it at original prices. BTW, this is my first post here on the new forum.....I think I like it already! __________________ Stay Sharp! Will Fennell TEAM BERETTA TEAM USA NRA Life Member www.willfennell.com TFL Alumni

December 25, 2002, 12:46 AM	#6
3 gun Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Location: N 041 24.000 W 081 43.000 N.E.Ohio Posts: 710	That's a good price for a premium ammo. I'd buy all I could get. __________________ An unloaded pistol is a paperweight. Opportunity knocks..Trouble kicks down the door.

December 25, 2002, 04:55 AM	#8
Nosferatu Member Join Date: December 25, 2002 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 74	From what I have seen on the auction boards, $30-$40/box is the norm. If these are for real, that is a pretty good price. I would buy some up to keep/carry and shoot the rest. __________________ NF FiveseveN/5.7x28mm Forum

December 23, 2002, 07:39 PM	#2
C.R.Sam Moderator Emeritus Join Date: December 19, 2002 Location: Chino Valley, AZ., USA Posts: 2,639	Would be a gamble but.... At that price, could grab em all and auction em off. A while back, folks were getting insane prices for that stuff. Says Black talon on box..... That's the biggie. Sam

December 24, 2002, 11:33 PM	#5
Brad Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 21	A guhshop near me has a dozen boxes on the shelf for $30 each. Seems about average for what I've seen lately.

December 25, 2002, 01:30 AM	#7
12-34hom Member Join Date: December 25, 2002 Location: Ia, Northeastern Posts: 870	Black Talon was over hyped. There are much better factory loadings for the 10mm around at cheaper prices. 12-34hom.

December 25, 2002, 09:10 AM	#9
redneck2 Member Join Date: December 25, 2002 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 4,234	I'd buy every box they had... we were selling them at our store for $30-40 a box. "Collectors" wanted them. Sell 'em, make 300%, and use the money for something you want If they had 10 boxes you could make enough to buy a gun

December 25, 2002, 06:32 PM	#10
ArmaLube Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Posts: 44	BT 10mm Buy 'em all! You will be glad you did.

December 30, 2002, 04:35 PM	#12
WonderNine member Join Date: December 27, 2002 Location: always offline! Posts: 4,335	You could buy them and try selling them on gunbilker. You probably won't get much more than you payed for them though.

December 31, 2002, 03:30 AM	#13
duncan Member Join Date: December 29, 2002 Location: Lake Sammamish, WA Posts: 483	I would pass on them. Now, they're just a gimmick. Seem like lots of LEAs kept issue the Talons and officers apparenly could not shoot through all of their issued ammo, so friends get it on the low down and it resurfaces years later on eBay. Sorry but I like fresh ammo for carry. For REAL hot and heavy 10mm ammo: 175 grain Win Silvertips - all day for $11 a box. Great in full sized 10mm's like a Glock 20 like mine! Or for faster, 155 ProLoad Gold Dots for some real hummers out of shorter barrelled 10mm like a Glock 29. __________________ The Seattle SharpShooter - TFL Alum - GT/THR/AR15/PCT/HKPro/KTOG/SGT/OA2/1911Forum .223, 9mm, 40SW, 357 SIG, 10mm, 44 Mag, 45 ACP Today? Website: Reloading Data - Duncan

December 31, 2002, 12:42 PM	#14
91101 Member Join Date: December 29, 2002 Location: Oshkosh, WI USA Posts: 46	$35 a box at the gun show I was at Friday night... I didn't buy any.. At $10 I probably would have.... Maybe pull the bullets and reload them? I don't know if it would be worth the hassle? Michael

December 31, 2002, 12:57 PM	#15
Sean Smith Member Join Date: December 28, 2002 Posts: 4,851	Those 200gr BTs really have no reason to exist except as money-making gimmick. Blah ballistics and the "magic bullet" is nothing special. If you have a suppressed 10mm I'd say go for it, though.

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