Dangers of "Mexican Carry".

twoblink · December 18, 2004, 12:02 AM

Was watching "The New Police Story" (Jackie Chan movie)..

There was one part, a guy is mexican carrying a glock in the front, and Jackie reaches in and pulls the trigger and shoots the guy in the leg...

Just a friendly reminder that a few inches to the right, and he'd be childless...

So the lesson for today boyz and girlz, don't mexican carry...

R.H. Lee · December 18, 2004, 12:18 AM

I sometimes Mexican carry a 1911 in the back, but it's cocked and locked, so all's well............

sm · December 18, 2004, 12:29 AM

Reading thread while carrying w/o a holster...
I lost the holster, kept the gun ...okay I lost 3 holsters and kept the 3 guns...don't ask - requires talent.

Never said I was smart now did I ?

JPM70535 · December 18, 2004, 12:31 AM

First mistake, if you Mexican carry, DO NOT CHOOSE A GLOCK! It has no active safety so the only thing between you and future progeny is that little appendage on the trigger ( either 3 or 5 pounds) and that is not safe enough for me.

When I Mexican carry, it is with a pistol with a manual safety or a revolver with a factory trigger pull, much safer IMO.

Standing Wolf · December 18, 2004, 12:48 AM

If I'd tried the Mexican carry years ago, the gun would have fallen down my trousers. If I were to try it now, I'd have to buy new trousers to accommodate the gun.

twoblink · December 18, 2004, 01:52 AM

The only gun I'd even remotely consider mexican carrying is a P7, and even then...

mnrivrat · December 18, 2004, 02:15 AM

I got donelap desease - can't Mexican carry without loosing sight of the gun.

Travis McGee · December 18, 2004, 02:26 AM

Oh, I gotta see it just for this scene alone!

Mannlicher · December 18, 2004, 08:04 PM

Mex carry is fine, no matter the pistol. None of them go off if you keep your finger off the trigger. Remember, its not the gun's fault if some jackass gets careless and pulls the trigger at a bad time.
I often carry a little CZ compact 9mm that way. I tuck it just behind my left hip, cross draw.

twoblink · December 18, 2004, 08:06 PM

Mann.. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but a pistol should ALWAYS live in a holster if on your persons, and a rifle on a sling.

Mex Carry will make you lose body parts.. First thing I tell newbies, don't do what you see on TV...

Waitone · December 18, 2004, 09:06 PM

I got a Taurus 85 CH snub with Barami Hip Grip on it. Great for walking the dog and not having to putz around with a holster. Mounted at 4 o'clock. 95% of the time it is in a holster. Do I Mexican carry doing dog duty?

greg531mi · December 19, 2004, 02:07 AM

Did you know that in LA hospitals, they have a code for the gang members that shoot their family jewells?

Ouch, that would hurt!!!
Hey, at least they are not breeding.....

R.H. Lee · December 19, 2004, 02:16 AM

Quote:

Did you know that in LA hospitals, they have a code for the gang members that shoot their family jewells?

"Dr. Darwin, please report to the ER"

Texian Pistolero · December 19, 2004, 02:37 AM

One rule that has served me well is that a loaded handgun is ALWAYS in a holster. This provides a simple line of demarcation, I don't have to stop and try to remember.
(Didn't Copper's school do the same?)

This is not to say that I don't treat EVERY unholstered gun as loaded without confirmation, It is just that I am avoiding the situation where an unholstered gun is sometimes loaded, sometimes not, and I MIGHT make some stupid mistake due to an error in short term memory.

Also, carrying Mex presupposes that one will never be running, hitting the ground for cover, and/or any other sudden activity that may jar the gun loose.

Bad presupposition.

Also, carrying Mex also puts piece next to my sweaty skin, which will ultimately produce a rust problem.

ny32182 · December 19, 2004, 02:39 AM

My current situation in life dictates that many times, I go places where I must leave my pistol in the car all day long. So, I "mexican carry" my pistol to and from the car only... but ONLY use my Taurus PT92 or 99 for this purpose, decocked and manual safety engaged. I would never do this with a pistol with no manual safety... even the decocked P226/.40 I carry when I am able to carry properly with a holster. A Glock? Forget it. I value my balls more than that.

Phil Ca · December 19, 2004, 03:28 AM

I used the Mexican carry a few times when stationed in the PI, as a holster would have given me away.

A way to do that carry and be a tad more secure is to use a shoestring carry. You tie the ends together and make a loop and put the string over your belt just so and it secures the pistol. I don't have a way to post it in a photo or i would show you.

Ryder · December 19, 2004, 04:12 AM

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and a rifle on a sling

Why would you think that?

bogie · December 19, 2004, 05:21 AM

This reminds me...

Back in the old days of WWIV and Fidonet, and the beginnings of our humble intenet, there was one cat on the gun board who maintained that the best round to carry was the lead roundnose.

Why?

He'd managed to shoot himself TWICE in the ass while playing fastdraw, and he figured LRN slugs caused less tissue damage.

twoblink · December 19, 2004, 06:34 AM

I'll go ahead and make the statement:

"Glock + Mexican Carrying = Stupidity"

I can't imagine what type of stituation it would have to be for me to front mexican carry a glock... simply wrong..

ScottsGT · December 19, 2004, 01:12 PM

Co-Worker took his CWP class avout 5 years back when they first started in SC. His instructor had them do the Mexican carry if they did not have a holster!

Now that's safety teaching at it's best!

Brasso · December 19, 2004, 01:16 PM

Althogh not recommended, if you have to mexican carry at least do it with an empty chamber.

Which reminds me of Magnum PI for some reason. He always carried in his back and always racked the chamber when he pulled it out. Probably more for dramatic effect, but still the smart way to carry in that mode.

Rimmer · December 19, 2004, 06:41 PM

Quote:

twoblink
Mann.. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but a pistol should ALWAYS live in a holster if on your persons, and a rifle on a sling.

Mex Carry will make you lose body parts.. First thing I tell newbies, don't do what you see on TV...

I was disappointed back when I took my first pistol safety course many years ago and long before I became a certified instructor myself, indeed not one instructor showed us how to Mex carry. Go figure

deputy tom · December 19, 2004, 06:50 PM

Just to clarify the situation,"Mexican carry" is erronious as Mexicans usually wear (and fabricate)holsters of high quality,secondly the afformentioned mexican carry is at 4 o'clock IWB with no holster, if you're right handed,8 o'clock if lefty(same way)."Felony carry" is in the front which is what you want to avoid if planning children,especially if it's a g-lock.tom.

Clean97GTI · December 19, 2004, 08:34 PM

anygun + "mexican carry" = bad idea

The gun should be in a holster. The ONLY exception I might allow is a Kel-Tec pocket clip. Even then, I'd be MIGHTY weary of an uncovered trigger.

Oh, a manual safety is NO replacement for true safety...which starts between your ears. Don't depend on the mechanical safety to keep you safe. I'm sure 1911's have gone off when the owner thought it was locked. Just use a holster...even if you attach it to the front of you pants.

oldfella · December 19, 2004, 08:48 PM

If you decide to "Mexican Carry", against your better judgment, at least use a De Santis Nemesis holster - it has a sticky substance which keeps the holster from moving.

December 18, 2004, 12:02 AM	#1
twoblink Member Join Date: December 23, 2002 Location: Jung He City, Taiwan Posts: 3,618	Dangers of "Mexican Carry". Was watching "The New Police Story" (Jackie Chan movie).. There was one part, a guy is mexican carrying a glock in the front, and Jackie reaches in and pulls the trigger and shoots the guy in the leg... Just a friendly reminder that a few inches to the right, and he'd be childless... So the lesson for today boyz and girlz, don't mexican carry... __________________ "Do we fight for our beliefs and perhaps not live long enough to have kids; or do we stand idly by and do nothing, and perhaps let the world become a place we wouldn't want our posterity to grow up in?"

December 18, 2004, 12:18 AM	#2
R.H. Lee Member Join Date: January 26, 2004 Location: CA Posts: 7,387	I sometimes Mexican carry a 1911 in the back, but it's cocked and locked, so all's well............ __________________ ''What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?'' -Thomas Jefferson ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΈ!

December 18, 2004, 12:29 AM	#3
sm Member Join Date: December 23, 2002 Posts: 26,516	Reading thread while carrying w/o a holster... I lost the holster, kept the gun ...okay I lost 3 holsters and kept the 3 guns...don't ask - requires talent. Never said I was smart now did I ? __________________ Use Enough Gun TFL illuminaughty

December 18, 2004, 12:48 AM	#5
Standing Wolf Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 23,224	If I'd tried the Mexican carry years ago, the gun would have fallen down my trousers. If I were to try it now, I'd have to buy new trousers to accommodate the gun. __________________ No tyrant should ever be allowed to die a natural death.

December 18, 2004, 01:52 AM	#6
twoblink Member Join Date: December 23, 2002 Location: Jung He City, Taiwan Posts: 3,618	The only gun I'd even remotely consider mexican carrying is a P7, and even then... __________________ "Do we fight for our beliefs and perhaps not live long enough to have kids; or do we stand idly by and do nothing, and perhaps let the world become a place we wouldn't want our posterity to grow up in?"

December 18, 2004, 12:31 AM	#4
JPM70535 Member Join Date: December 26, 2002 Location: Sunny Florids Posts: 669	First mistake, if you Mexican carry, DO NOT CHOOSE A GLOCK! It has no active safety so the only thing between you and future progeny is that little appendage on the trigger ( either 3 or 5 pounds) and that is not safe enough for me. When I Mexican carry, it is with a pistol with a manual safety or a revolver with a factory trigger pull, much safer IMO.

December 18, 2004, 02:15 AM	#7
mnrivrat Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Location: MN Posts: 2,934	I got donelap desease - can't Mexican carry without loosing sight of the gun. __________________ Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson

December 18, 2004, 02:26 AM	#8
Travis McGee Member Join Date: January 13, 2003 Location: NE Florida Posts: 1,638	Oh, I gotta see it just for this scene alone! __________________ www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com

December 18, 2004, 08:04 PM	#9
Mannlicher Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Location: North Central Florida Posts: 3,428	Mex carry is fine, no matter the pistol. None of them go off if you keep your finger off the trigger. Remember, its not the gun's fault if some jackass gets careless and pulls the trigger at a bad time. I often carry a little CZ compact 9mm that way. I tuck it just behind my left hip, cross draw. __________________ no Signature line

December 18, 2004, 08:06 PM	#10
twoblink Member Join Date: December 23, 2002 Location: Jung He City, Taiwan Posts: 3,618	Mann.. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but a pistol should ALWAYS live in a holster if on your persons, and a rifle on a sling. Mex Carry will make you lose body parts.. First thing I tell newbies, don't do what you see on TV... __________________ "Do we fight for our beliefs and perhaps not live long enough to have kids; or do we stand idly by and do nothing, and perhaps let the world become a place we wouldn't want our posterity to grow up in?"

December 18, 2004, 09:06 PM	#11
Waitone Member Join Date: December 25, 2002 Location: The Land of Broccoli and Fingernails Posts: 5,411	I got a Taurus 85 CH snub with Barami Hip Grip on it. Great for walking the dog and not having to putz around with a holster. Mounted at 4 o'clock. 95% of the time it is in a holster. Do I Mexican carry doing dog duty? __________________ "As riches increase and accumulate in few hands, as luxury prevails in society, virtue will be in a greater degree considered as only a graceful appendage of wealth, and the tendency of things will be to depart from the republican standard. This is the real disposition of human nature; it is what neither the honorable member nor myself can correct. It is a common misfortunate that awaits our State constitution, as well as all others." Alexander Hamilton (speech to the New York Ratifying Convention, June 1788)

December 19, 2004, 02:07 AM	#12
greg531mi Member Join Date: December 31, 2002 Location: MI Posts: 592	Did you know that in LA hospitals, they have a code for the gang members that shoot their family jewells? Ouch, that would hurt!!! Hey, at least they are not breeding.....

December 19, 2004, 02:37 AM	#14
Texian Pistolero member Join Date: July 7, 2004 Location: Dalla-Foat Worth Posts: 466	One rule that has served me well is that a loaded handgun is ALWAYS in a holster. This provides a simple line of demarcation, I don't have to stop and try to remember. (Didn't Copper's school do the same?) This is not to say that I don't treat EVERY unholstered gun as loaded without confirmation, It is just that I am avoiding the situation where an unholstered gun is sometimes loaded, sometimes not, and I MIGHT make some stupid mistake due to an error in short term memory. Also, carrying Mex presupposes that one will never be running, hitting the ground for cover, and/or any other sudden activity that may jar the gun loose. Bad presupposition. Also, carrying Mex also puts piece next to my sweaty skin, which will ultimately produce a rust problem.

December 19, 2004, 02:39 AM	#15
ny32182 Member Join Date: October 17, 2003 Location: Clemson, SC Posts: 3,023	My current situation in life dictates that many times, I go places where I must leave my pistol in the car all day long. So, I "mexican carry" my pistol to and from the car only... but ONLY use my Taurus PT92 or 99 for this purpose, decocked and manual safety engaged. I would never do this with a pistol with no manual safety... even the decocked P226/.40 I carry when I am able to carry properly with a holster. A Glock? Forget it. I value my balls more than that.

December 19, 2004, 03:28 AM	#16
Phil Ca Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Location: Central Valley, PRK Posts: 255	I used the Mexican carry a few times when stationed in the PI, as a holster would have given me away. A way to do that carry and be a tad more secure is to use a shoestring carry. You tie the ends together and make a loop and put the string over your belt just so and it secures the pistol. I don't have a way to post it in a photo or i would show you.

December 19, 2004, 05:21 AM	#18
bogie Member Join Date: January 2, 2003 Location: St. Louis, in the Don't Show Me state Posts: 9,560	This reminds me... Back in the old days of WWIV and Fidonet, and the beginnings of our humble intenet, there was one cat on the gun board who maintained that the best round to carry was the lead roundnose. Why? He'd managed to shoot himself TWICE in the ass while playing fastdraw, and he figured LRN slugs caused less tissue damage. __________________ ============ Resume is available upon request

December 19, 2004, 06:34 AM	#19
twoblink Member Join Date: December 23, 2002 Location: Jung He City, Taiwan Posts: 3,618	I'll go ahead and make the statement: "Glock + Mexican Carrying = Stupidity" I can't imagine what type of stituation it would have to be for me to front mexican carry a glock... simply wrong.. __________________ "Do we fight for our beliefs and perhaps not live long enough to have kids; or do we stand idly by and do nothing, and perhaps let the world become a place we wouldn't want our posterity to grow up in?"

December 19, 2004, 01:12 PM	#20
ScottsGT Member Join Date: December 30, 2002 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 1,983	Co-Worker took his CWP class avout 5 years back when they first started in SC. His instructor had them do the Mexican carry if they did not have a holster! Now that's safety teaching at it's best!

December 19, 2004, 01:16 PM	#21
Brasso Member Join Date: September 27, 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 396	Althogh not recommended, if you have to mexican carry at least do it with an empty chamber. Which reminds me of Magnum PI for some reason. He always carried in his back and always racked the chamber when he pulled it out. Probably more for dramatic effect, but still the smart way to carry in that mode. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕʹ *Real guns are wheel guns*

December 19, 2004, 06:50 PM	#23
deputy tom Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Location: W/PA Posts: 754	Just to clarify the situation,"Mexican carry" is erronious as Mexicans usually wear (and fabricate)holsters of high quality,secondly the afformentioned mexican carry is at 4 o'clock IWB with no holster, if you're right handed,8 o'clock if lefty(same way)."Felony carry" is in the front which is what you want to avoid if planning children,especially if it's a g-lock.tom. __________________ N.R.A.LIFE MEMBER SPES MEA IN DEO EST An end will come on the world, but love and music will endure. Thig crioch air an t-saoghail, ach mairidh gaol 's ceol.

December 19, 2004, 08:34 PM	#24
Clean97GTI Member Join Date: February 29, 2004 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,189	anygun + "mexican carry" = bad idea The gun should be in a holster. The ONLY exception I might allow is a Kel-Tec pocket clip. Even then, I'd be MIGHTY weary of an uncovered trigger. Oh, a manual safety is NO replacement for true safety...which starts between your ears. Don't depend on the mechanical safety to keep you safe. I'm sure 1911's have gone off when the owner thought it was locked. Just use a holster...even if you attach it to the front of you pants. __________________ Americans sure do love their freedoms...too bad we have to go to other countries to experience them. Click here to see who's got your freedoms. goodbye Libertarian Party. I don't need you pushing a neo-con for president.

December 19, 2004, 08:48 PM	#25
oldfella Member Join Date: March 1, 2003 Location: Tennessee Posts: 291	If you decide to "Mexican Carry", against your better judgment, at least use a De Santis Nemesis holster - it has a sticky substance which keeps the holster from moving. __________________ NRA - Life Member GOA - Life Member http://proguns.proboards.com

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