New information on confiscation in New Orleans

[Correia]

I can't say who I got this from, but this needs to be known.

The reason that they are confiscating guns, as briefed to the National Guard down there, is that the officials want the city cleared. Some people just won't leave. So they are being disarmed in the hopes that this will force them to leave, because now they will be scared of the criminals and looters.

Let me repeat that. As I was informed by somebody in position to be briefed on the tactics in use, the people that are not evacuating are doing so at this point because they were prepared and armed. Once disarmed they will not be able to defend themselves from the bad guys and will have no choice but to leave.

If your state has National Guard in New Orleans, contact your Governor's office and ask them if they know what THEIR troops are being ordered to do.

[Henry Bowman]

This is sad. I have not felt so betrayed and heartbroken since Congress passed the AWB in 1994.

[beerslurpy]

And the democrats wonder why they lose ground in the south.

[cracked butt]

Seems like a pretty smart plan. The lawful people aren't likely to shoot first like the criminals would.


Pretty much supports my theory that you cannot actually own property in the US, you can only purchase the right to occupy it and pay tribute to the government for the priviledge until the government decides they don't want you there anymore.

[Jim Diver]

Poor excuse. These people are prepared to stay. They have arms, food, water, generators, power in some areas, and a dry home.

Evacuating the flooded areas is one thing... Pulling this sort of sh$t in dry areas is BS..

I suspect you were just told the party propoganda and not the real reason they are disarming people.

[Henry Bowman]

I suspect you were just told the party propoganda and not the real reason they are disarming people.

How could the "real reason" be any worse?!

[alpineman]

I'm at a loss for words. I'm always hard on our Government - at all levels - but I never really felt distrustful.... until now. Perhaps I'm more ashamed. Either way, it's hard to believe.

[Derek Zeanah]

And the democrats wonder why they lose ground in the south.

Yeah, but we've got a Republican in the President's chair, and the Republicans hold both houses of congress, and are in the process of finding 2 new supreme court judges.

FEMA and that National Guard are involved here. If the Republicans at the federal level had an issue with this, it would stop.

Don't look for either party to save you. They're driving down the same road.

[geekWithA.45]

Having an Explanation Doesn't Make It Right

If they're going to violate people to force them to move, then they might as well just toss them into trucks bound and gagged.

There's no such thing as "being raped a little bit", and this figurative rapes of rights is just that.


Furthermore, this "plan" is no deep secret or surprise.

They've been keeping food and water out as well, in an effort to force people out.

At this point, their motives are irrelevant.

They have used force to abrogate civil and constitutional rights in an explicit bid to deprive people of their means of living.


They've crossed the line.

[PvtPyle]

I suspect you were just told the party propoganda and not the real reason they are disarming people.

Yes, I too wonder what reason could be worse. They could not possibly let a law abiding citizen show that they can be armed and deter crime in a lawless situation, could they? Would they?

[alpineman]

Derek, please forgive me for using this from your signature line:

If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -- James Madison

... or under the guise of fighting a natural disaster?...

[rick_reno]

Don't look for either party to save you. They're driving down the same road.

This is absolutely correct. The ONLY difference is the speed at which they're driving.

[beerslurpy]

One, I dont expect anyone to save me. I realize that I am on my own even now in Florida, on dry land and in time of peace. I dont rely on the charity of others. Bad times have come because men like us are rare in this country. Things will not get better until the American people (as a group) change. Political parties dont drive things, they only pander to the fashions of the time.

If I were a Republican political strategist and a completely coldhearted bastard, I would let the powers that be in LA make things as bad as possible in NO. When it is all said and done, they will take all the blame and it would become a huge black stain on the national Democratic party for years. Not mention this disater will decimate the Democratic consituency of LA for decades.

[PvtPyle]

Andrew Napalitono just commented on this on Fox. He said it was illegal even under these circumstances, but they were getting away with it.

Shep said "Well, we will see how that goes." I wonder what he meant by that...

The govenrment is destroying all of our rights and the laws that hold this country together. And we are happily letting them do it.

I have never been so ashamed to be an American.

[Correia]

I never said it was right. I think it is down right evil.

Like I said, contact your governor's office if there are troops from your state their and ask them if they know what THEIR troops are doing.

Or you can bitch about it on the internet.

[fix]

Just got off the phone with the Governor's office here in Georgia. It is the position of Governor Sonny Perdue's administration that if the Georgia National Guard Troops are ordered to confiscate firearms from law abiding citizens, in direct violation of the 2nd Amendment, that's just hunky dory with him. I quote the interesting portion of the conversation here:

Sir, if that is what they are charged with, then that is what they will do.

Me: You are aware of the issue of those rights being protected by the US Constitution?

Sir, the situation warrants extreme measures.

Me: This is the position of the Governor?

Yes sir.

[RealGun]

Andrew Napalitono just commented on this on Fox. He said it was illegal even under these circumstances, but they were getting away with it.

I am reading his book about how government breaks the law to enforce the law (Constitutional Chaos). Bought it from the GOA website.

[nomadboi]

Yeah... Beerslurpy, I really don't see what Democrats had to do with this.

The usual namecalling isn't going to do us much good here, folks.

[Gordon Fink]

The National Guard is a federal creature. Don’t waste your time pestering your governors. Waste your time pestering the Guard’s commander-in-chief, George W. Bush.

~G. Fink

[RealGun]

Waste your time pestering the Guard’s commander-in-chief, George W. Bush.

While the NG is reportedly providing armed support and logistics, it's the NOPD that is confiscating guns. I could only speculate why or how "federal marshals" would be involved. We sure don't know the whole story yet.

Actually, George Bush is not in charge. Last I heard, the NO Mayor is in charge. I also read that the LA Governor refused federalizing the emergency. FEMA is not in charge. They are assisting, I guess.

[GlenJ]

I wish the police and NG had these big ba11s at the Superdome and Convention Center when kids were being raped and killed. If we had a Democrat in the White House Linbaugh, Hannity and the NRA would be all over this.

[Waitone]

The screaming cynic in me is jumping up and down waving a hand.

I suspect you were given an excuse. I furthermore suspect the reason is far different. What that reason is I haven't a clue.

I watch those poor people file into the sugar dome and had a cold chill run down my back. I have the same feeling about the confiscation. No legal authority in sight yet they go right ahead.

With illegal immigration I feared the implications of not enforcing existing law. How long before those same officials begin enforcing laws that don't exist? As it turns out, not all that long.

[Correia]

My hell, isn't disarming innocent people to leave them defenseless at the hands of murdering gangs, to force them to leave their homes and become defenseless refugees evil enough? What the hell do some of you want?

This is disgusting. The whole thing is shamefull.

[beerslurpy]

Yeah Correia, as much as I want to find an evil ulterior motive, I dont think it really matters when the means they are using to acheive it are so despicable.

The upside of this is that the NRA and GOA are going to have greatly renewed political clout as word about this whole debacle begins to make the water cooler rounds.

[JohnBT]

This should get the attention of all the hunters and target shooters who aren't members.

www.nra.org