homemade weapons!

[sakimoto]

Hello everyone!
Does anyone know of a website with information on making your own weapons? I remember seeing one many years ago and it showed how to make spears with kitchen knives and hose clamps. I also showed how to make a club similar to a World War 1 german trench club. It was made out of a bicycle sproket. I just cannot remember the website. As for me,I have a short spear make by cold steel, two homemade swords that I made from high carbon leaf springs, an assortment of baseball bats, a home made sheild made with 1/2 inch plywood and rawhide, football shoulder pads that make great protection, several helmets. If I was in a hurry I can grab my spear,bat,sword and shield in matter of seconds. If I had time to put on my armor I would so that I could stand a better chance in case I receive a blow. Of course anyone with a fire arm would defeat me, but in the dark with an unfamiliar location at room distance. An intruder would have a disadvantage. I would not hesitate to defend my family. If you have any information I would deeply appreciate it.
Thank you!
Saki

[gripper]

Sakimoto.......YOU'RE ALL RIGHT!!!! You sound as though you'd do well no matter what;all that I can think ofis just a few improvised munitions manuals&Palladin press stuff...MOst of that dealt with firearms,explosives&incendiaries as well as the ways to set them off.But close quarters melee weapons???Ther's got to be some sites or books out there the goobermint has'nt freaked on.
I was known to keep a numjber of stabing/slashing /bludgeoning implements seeded throughout the residences I had in the past,but I never even thought to "armor up"in a DIY fashion. I like it!!

[crt360]

Welcome.

You get my award for most innovative new member. I think just the sight of someone with a homemade sword, trench club, plywood and rawhide shield, wearing shoulder pads and a helmet would scare off most intruders; especially if the shoulder pads are spiked/studded and the helmet has horns on it. A picture or two would be worth a million words.

Are you by any chance a Raider fan or one of the guys in the "What's in your wallet?" TV ad?

It sounds like you're ready to do your own homemade weapons how-to site.

[Horsesense]

"Of course anyone with a fire arm would defeat me"

Wrong answer!

All a gun can do is inject a small bit of led into your body. Unless that led opens up a major artery or disrupts your central nervous system etc. you are still very much in the fight.

[scott.cr]

Google info on home-brew knife making. From what I know, a lot of the knife DIYs make good blades with nothing but worn-out files and a bench grinding wheel.

There is a lot of info online about hardening and tempering steel too. So if you burn the temper off of your file steel you can re-harden and re-temper it.

I have done hardening and tempering of steel in the kitchen oven. Use a gas torch to harden, and kitchen oven to temper. Some steels will temper at 500 degrees F and under, which is within the realm of the household.

EDIT: Oddly enough, I am making my own extendable baton from 6061-T6 tube. I have a lathe and mill in my hobby shop, and the baton extends easily and locks firmly. Way better than a $65 ASP.

[pauli]

homemade weapons!

everybody needs a good shiv once in their life...

[abaddon]

Cut out a length of gardening hose - it would really sting as is or you could rig it as a sap by putting some a weight in the end (roll of quarters?) and sealing it up somehow.

Re: clubs - splitting maul handles seem about the right balance and strength to me. If you make the part you attach the maul to into the handle it'll hit pretty hard but move a lot quicker than a baseball bat. Wrap it with paracord for a grip.

Homemade pepper spray/mace - I've seen recipes on the internet. Sorry, but I don't have a link. The cool thing about this is that you can experiment with different methods of delivery. One could potentially change an everyday object like a water bottle into a less-lethal weapon (just don't drink from it).

[Krenn]

What's the legality of making a homemade claymore mine?

shouldn't be too hard... the hard part would be shaping the paraboid heavy metal backing. then it's just gunpowder and buckshot with a paper mouth covering and an igniter.

or you could take a blacksmithing course and buy a home smithy.

[eab]

I am pretty sure a homemade claymore would fall under the defination of homemade bomb. Pretty sure that its not a good idea. Also claymores use C4, but you problay knew that.

[Oldnamvet]

Claymores are also not good to anyone close behind it when it goes off.

[1911JMB]

While many people believe this idea is out of line, I've said it before and I'll say it again, fill a pop bottle with gas and have a lighter handy.

[gunfan]

You can buy Blackjacks from police supply stores. (I know, I own 3. Two are 8 oz. of lead on the end of spring wrapped in leather, the other is 14 oz.) I also own 2 "Flat Saps" (one manufactured by S&W, and the other is cheap Taiwanese junk.)

I also collect automatic knives!

Scott

[Rupestris]

I had read somewhere on a website where someone had made a small hunting knife out of an old circular saw blade.
I was out in the garage and found an old dull circular saw blade and got to thinking... Why not a Kerambit?
I have the bench grinder, bench sander, disk sander, cutting tools. Its a fine cut so if I shape it correctly, it'll already have the serated/sawtooth back edge onthe blade

[Moonclip]

One of my favorite homemade weapons is a sock with sand or better yet, a big ball bearing in it. Highly illegal though in my area.

Anyone ever see Bad Boys with Sean Penn when he beats upthose two guys in juvey with a pillowcase with soda cans in it?

Men will always find away to be armed. I've known of people to make a shank in prison by melting sandwich bag plastic, get enough of it, melt it, and form it in to a stabbing weapon.

[CT Yankee]

I found an odd site with some useful ideas. I don't know if it's anything you want, but here it is anyway: http://www.totse.com/en/bad_ideas/gu...ons/index.html

[abaddon]

A brief look at the sight showed me that the writer thought he knew more about guns than he really did know. I would expect that tendency to show up in his non-gun information as well.

[thebigc]

yeah i wouldent listen to most things from the totse archives they used to have a good pyrotecnics fourum. a cool little thing i made once was i had some flexible plastic tubeing from home depot i took that crimped the end on about a 2 foot peice then filled it with like 4 ounces of shot and taped it over again i could put some pretty mean dents in a peice of wood with that thing.

[ecos]

in my early teen years i bought a large nut (about 1" across and pretty heavy) and just tied a 4-6 foot length of thin rope to it. at full length with a good swing it would do some serious damage. you could hold higher on the rope for more control or just use the rope itself to trap limbs.
not an ideal weapon but it was fun to tinker with and cost like 50cents. never had to use it in self defense but i beat the heck out of innocent trees with it.

[middy]

A favorite homemade weapon from my childhood was a spear I made. I knocked the scales off of an Old Hickory butcher knife. I sawed the stick off of an old broom, then sawed a notch in the end lengthwise, long enough for the tang of the knife. Stuck the tang in the slot, then screwed a couple of wood screws through the stick and through the holes in the tang.

Using a dagger blade and a shorter hardwood dowel, one could make a quality Masai-type spear with this method...

[mole]

There was a guy who liked to mess with me in high school. One day I took a roll of quarters and hit him. He never messed with me again. You could always claim you were on your way to the arcade....

My younger brother carries a large bolt he found somewhere. It's about 18-20 inches long, the shaft's about 3/4 - 1inch in diameter, and topped off with a large square head. The threads give a fairly good grip. I used to have a boss that took a 1 1/2 inch diameter oak dowel about 16 inches long and wrapped with what looked like 3/16 sheet metal around the last four inches. He put a few screws through it to make sure the metal couldn't slide off. Either one would do some damage.

[middy]

mole, that reminds me, some more of my favorite childhood weapons (no we never hurt anyone with them): an 18" length of rebar with a handle made with hockey tape, a 24" piece of hockey stick with a 1/2" x 2" hole drilled in the end and filled with molten lead (wicked one that )

[Camp David]

The best homemade weapon we made as kids on the farm was called a Tennis Ball Cannon! It is made by cutting off and out the tops and bottoms of beer cans, then taping them together to make a tube. The last can at the bottom was left sealed. Then a tennis ball was pushed down the tube all the way to the bottom. Once the tennis ball was seated, a small hole is poked in bottom and lighter fuel is forced in to fill area at bottom, behind tennis ball! Then "cannon" is then shoulder mounted! All that is needed is a lighter to ignite fluid to launch -- rapidly -- the tennis ball down tube and into whatever is aimed at!!!

The first time we tried this medieval cannon, a friend and I picked the first target we found: a rooster quietly walking a short distance away! Apparently we put way too much lighter fuel into it because as soon as we lit the fuel the tube detonated and rooster instantly turned into a ball of feathers as we scored a direct hit! Neither tennis ball or rooster were ever found!

[Moonclip]

I forgot about the coin roll trick until mentioned. It can also be taped so it doesn't fall apart after a few punches.

[mole]

We used to make our own nightsticks, but they tended to break at the joint after some use. I have killed many a rat with a hockey stick.

My roll of quarters was covered with wide clear tape. Another trick I saw was to take a stack of large washers, tie them together into a stack with some wire (three or four loops evenly spaced) so they don't fall over or come apart easily, fill the center with lead. You can then wrap with electical tape or such for added strength. The lead filled washers are heavier and will be more effective I assume, but does not look innocent like the quarters.

The best bet would probably be to buy an asp baton. Mine is 26 inches long and slides down to about 9 inches to fit into it's belt pouch. I bought it at a military surplus store for about $20-25 dollars a few years ago. You have to be careful since you will be getting into concealed carry territory if you try to hide it under your shirt or such....at least in Georgia anyway.

With the way things (laws, lawsuits, etc...) are going in this world now you might be stuck with just a stick. A good sized hardwood dowel rod could easily be explained as a replacement for a rod in the closet or needed for a child's school project.

Now I have to urge to go make something.... I think I'll follows sakimoto's lead. I'm seeing a plexiglass shield and a short spear. My brother's old vest (he used to be a beat cop) and a helmet of some sort. Yeah, it might look a little silly, but it beats nothing when the buckshot runs out after the poopie has contacted the blower.

[1911JMB]

Camp David

The tennis ball cannon you described is as far as I know currently classified as a destructive device. If I'm right, that means if the cops wanted to give you a hard time, making one of those would be about as good of an idea as having an unregistered a machine gun. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong about this.