Quantcast
12GA Rifle From HELL-- - Page 21 - THR
THR  

Go Back   THR > Tools and Technologies > Shotguns

Welcome to THR
You are currently viewing our site as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will have, access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!


If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please visit the help section.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old April 22, 2008, 02:01 AM   #501
hubel458
Member
 
 
Join Date: March 1, 2003
Location: Brinton,Mich.
Posts: 571
My boxs of truth is 6 ft thick bundles
of hardwood. The drywall is
just in front of it.Lead slugs go 3/4 of
the way through. 750 gr solids
went all the way through. With
12GA FH long brss case.

Pressures-12gaFH brass case is
between 20k and 35k psi.Bolt gun.
10 & 12ga plastic up to 16k psi,
in NEFs, break actions.

8 ga plastic 25k psi in bolt gun.
Don't know what 8ga will do in
a break action until we a modern
one rigged up.

Lining up cars might do but due to high price
of junk there are none left here.Ed
__________________
Ed Hubel.
hubel458 is offline  
Old April 22, 2008, 02:12 AM   #502
jackdanson
Member
 
 
Join Date: February 14, 2008
Posts: 859
Maybe we should put this in the shotgun forum so the feds don't come get you? j/k, kind of.....
jackdanson is offline  
Old April 22, 2008, 04:31 AM   #503
dennisH87
Member
 
 
Join Date: January 16, 2006
Location: indiana, US
Posts: 152
That is one BEAST of a gun.
dennisH87 is offline  
Old April 22, 2008, 11:30 PM   #504
hubel458
Member
 
 
Join Date: March 1, 2003
Location: Brinton,Mich.
Posts: 571
Earlier this winter I tried that.
I asked the folks here to put it in
shotgun forum as so much of the
work is, and is going to be shotgun
related. I just want the post count and view count kept with the thread
also. The view count is the highest
of any forum, that we have this
info on, and talked about. Ed
__________________
Ed Hubel.
hubel458 is offline  
Old April 24, 2008, 12:56 AM   #505
neapoi
Member
 
 
Join Date: April 6, 2008
Location: Walla Walla Washington, USA
Posts: 28
Love what you've done here! Thank you SO MUCH for your contribution to this community, and the firearms community at large!
neapoi is offline  
Old April 25, 2008, 12:31 PM   #506
hubel458
Member
 
 
Join Date: March 1, 2003
Location: Brinton,Mich.
Posts: 571
I also have two other cartridges with my name
on them that I am promoting. They are my 700HE
and my 585BHE. They both belted straight cases.
Montana Rifle company is coming out with their
big PH action and some guys will be doing my
cases in them.

Info on the 585BHE. It will work in
any gun that handles 505 Gibbs like Enfield, CZ,
Ruger,etc.Mine is in Enfield.Here is picture of
of one next to Trex. And mine holds 15gr more
powder than that Trex case. 585BHE will do 750
grain from 1800 to 2800 fps in my Enfield.

Anyone interested setting up a gun, contact me
I will furnish reamer and 15 free cases. Cases are
headstamped. When done return reamer to me, for
the next guy. I will keep them sharpened. After a
few guys have guns we all will get together with
others wanting some and get a run of brass made.
These cases are all drawn high pressure brass.
I'd like guys to ask for reamer when gun is going
to be ready to chamber, that way reamers get the
most guns done in shortest time.Ed


__________________
Ed Hubel.
hubel458 is offline  
Old May 1, 2008, 01:34 AM   #507
hubel458
Member
 
 
Join Date: March 1, 2003
Location: Brinton,Mich.
Posts: 571
On Fri May 2 8pm on the Science Channel ,they will have
an article about the heavy barrel cannons that shoot
the brass cases for bomb disposal.They are the same as
our 12GA FH case,when resized in my dies and are shown
in this thread a couple months back in picture.
It will show them using them for bomb disposal. Ed
__________________
Ed Hubel.
hubel458 is offline  
Old May 6, 2008, 10:54 PM   #508
hubel458
Member
 
 
Join Date: March 1, 2003
Location: Brinton,Mich.
Posts: 571
Testing 8GA FH in Enfield, 1050 gr slug in wad cup, 120 gr
of 4759, over 2000 fps. Cases extract easy. Hardly any
base cup expansion...Ed
__________________
Ed Hubel.
hubel458 is offline  
Old May 9, 2008, 07:49 PM   #509
willie t
Member
 
 
Join Date: April 8, 2008
Location: georgia
Posts: 11
hello all,i seem to find these threads late but it takes some time to search this forum,this thread brought back memories of something i found a few years back,did not build it and have never fired it,i do know it was built to fire 12ga brass cartidges ,barrel is rifled looks like one twist full length of barrel,don't remember how many groves,it was built by a barrel maker in rome,georgia.don't know when,he stamped his name and location on the barrel,best i can make it out is B.C. ADS CKS,maybe some of the old pros out there will know more,i used a small coca cola bottle for a little scale
willie t is offline  
Old May 9, 2008, 09:14 PM   #510
Der Verge
Member
 
 
Join Date: May 1, 2008
Location: Sportsman's paradise
Posts: 233
Ed, Tailgunner and I are just waiting for you to finish up. I cannot wait to knock my first white tail in to the next county with one of those. Any accuracy tests yet? Or are you still just pushing the envelope?
Der Verge is offline  
Old May 10, 2008, 01:28 AM   #511
hubel458
Member
 
 
Join Date: March 1, 2003
Location: Brinton,Mich.
Posts: 571
I don't know if I am ever finished,
So many wild ideas. With peep sights
on Savage got 3" at 50 yds.Bad eyes and all. Some fellows used our
plastic 12ga case loads for critters.
I also am concentrating on my two
wildcats getting them out to big bore
nuts, and built on as many guns
as possible. Ed
__________________
Ed Hubel.
hubel458 is offline  
Old May 12, 2008, 12:50 AM   #512
hubel458
Member
 
 
Join Date: March 1, 2003
Location: Brinton,Mich.
Posts: 571
Here is picture of a sectioned 8ga plastic case
showing how heavy and strong it is built. The
plastic is one piece compressioned formed and
the sides of the cases are twice as thick as
12ga cases.You can see the double thickness
of the base cup. Ed

__________________
Ed Hubel.
hubel458 is offline  
Old May 21, 2008, 08:23 PM   #513
hubel458
Member
 
 
Join Date: March 1, 2003
Location: Brinton,Mich.
Posts: 571
Here is picture of the bolt setup for the 8ga
Enfield we did.Also comparison to a Mauser
12ga shotgun bolt conversion, from which
I got the concept. Ed

__________________
Ed Hubel.
hubel458 is offline  
Old May 31, 2008, 12:13 AM   #514
hubel458
Member
 
 
Join Date: March 1, 2003
Location: Brinton,Mich.
Posts: 571
I was asked how I got 8ga heavy barrel so quick.
First it is smoothbore, second a 110 bucks total shipping and all.
First I bought a 1.5 inch dia 4130 alloy, heat treated, shaft,
32" long. Then I had a deep hole drilling company drill
a .832" hole in it. Came out centered on both ends.
Then after it got here I used cylinder hone to polish
the inside of the bore. Threaded it, chambered it, and put
in the Enfield bolt action. The heat treating it had was just like
the barrel stock that barrel guys get. Ed.
__________________
Ed Hubel.
hubel458 is offline  
Old May 31, 2008, 01:12 AM   #515
Jst1mr
Member
 
 
Join Date: April 22, 2008
Posts: 277
Can you make a shot load out of the big brass (Like .22 rimfire shotshells)? Would be great for those pesky anacondas...maybe even a passable turkey load (the country, not the bird!)
Jst1mr is offline  
Old May 31, 2008, 01:59 AM   #516
jrpbullrider
Member
 
 
Join Date: April 18, 2008
Location: Lampasas, TX
Posts: 54
I just found this Post and I love what you have done. I would like to get one of them one day but it would be great to see a video, are you able to put a video up yet?
Keep up the great work.
John
jrpbullrider is offline  
Old June 1, 2008, 11:53 AM   #517
hubel458
Member
 
 
Join Date: March 1, 2003
Location: Brinton,Mich.
Posts: 571
We hope to get video stuff later on.
And maybe our isp post it.
We have a slow barb wire fence
phone line so I couldn't post a video
on site until that is fixed.

As for shot loads, I've tested buckshot in my long 12ga brass case.
used 12 #0 at 2000 fps, shot went
through 1/8" steel. Put a card over
the shot, glued it in. Ed
__________________
Ed Hubel.
hubel458 is offline  
Old June 1, 2008, 02:21 PM   #518
Der Verge
Member
 
 
Join Date: May 1, 2008
Location: Sportsman's paradise
Posts: 233
That is one hell of a door breaching charge!
Der Verge is offline  
Old June 12, 2008, 12:20 AM   #519
hubel458
Member
 
 
Join Date: March 1, 2003
Location: Brinton,Mich.
Posts: 571
For those wanting to see video of the 12GA FH in
the Savage busting big pail of water, one of the
kids posted it on Youtube- Titled "Grampa's Cannon".
I just found out that it is on there.
This was the video that the still pictures posted
before, was takem from. They have the sound
muted so as not to hurt camera sound system. Ed
__________________
Ed Hubel.
hubel458 is offline  
Old June 17, 2008, 02:57 AM   #520
hubel458
Member
 
 
Join Date: March 1, 2003
Location: Brinton,Mich.
Posts: 571
Load of 12 triple ought buckshot in 8ga. They are
70gr each, total 840 gr, and over 2000 fps with
125 gr of 4759. Ed
Here is URL for the waterpail busting video above--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUNHszY4ACM
__________________
Ed Hubel.
hubel458 is offline  
Old June 21, 2008, 12:10 AM   #521
hubel458
Member
 
 
Join Date: March 1, 2003
Location: Brinton,Mich.
Posts: 571
The 3 ought buckshot over 2000 fps
in 8 ga goes through 2" hardwood
planks real nice. Also that load as
well as the 770gr slug load hardly
kicks due to gun setup, with weight
and thumbhole stock. Later I will test
a 800 gr 8ga hollowpoint at good speed
on a 6 gallon water pail.Ed
__________________
Ed Hubel.
hubel458 is offline  
Old June 21, 2008, 03:21 AM   #522
stealth
Member
 
 
Join Date: January 10, 2008
Posts: 128
Man oh man this is one of my favorite threads, What makes it great is the updates Ed gives us on the firearms+ammunition.

Keep it up Ed.
stealth is offline  
Old June 21, 2008, 06:57 AM   #523
wristtwister
Member
 
 
Join Date: March 28, 2008
Posts: 419
Permanently mounted on the front of a vehicle, that would make a nice small artillery piece...

WT
__________________
"What man is a man that does not make the world a better place?"... from "Kingdom of Heaven"

The only time America is safe is when congress and the Senate are out of session.

Why carry "high capacity" pistols (or more than one gun)? The answer was found in the movie "Unforgiven"... where the one armed sheriff's deputy had only one arm and three guns... his reply..."I don't want to get killed for a lack of shootin' back"...

I usta kudn't spel engineer, an' now I ar wun...
wristtwister is offline  
Old June 22, 2008, 10:26 AM   #524
hubel458
Member
 
 
Join Date: March 1, 2003
Location: Brinton,Mich.
Posts: 571
Tailgunner suggested mounting one
on rollover bar on pickup, like military
MG mount.Shooter standing in box
have good vision. But alas MI doesn't
allow shooting game from vehicle.Ed
__________________
Ed Hubel.
hubel458 is offline  
Old June 22, 2008, 09:34 PM   #525
Der Verge
Member
 
 
Join Date: May 1, 2008
Location: Sportsman's paradise
Posts: 233
Ed, if you remove the engine, it is perfectly legal to shoot from a vehicle in MI. Just call that old Jeep your new blind!
__________________
Screw China, Walmart, Sam's, and ALL the products made/sold there. Wake up people, the world runs on money. If you keep sending it all to China, how will you finance the defence of the 2nd ammendment?
Der Verge is offline  
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:10 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBulletin Optimisation by vB Optimise.
This site, its contents, Shooting Reviews, and its contents are Copyright (c) 2010-2013 Firearms Forum, Inc.
IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER
Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages.