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Old March 21, 2006, 04:45 AM   #126
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no giant ape can withstand the power of the evil 12ga rifle from hell!
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Old March 23, 2006, 09:57 PM   #127
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Never saw movie, in fact didn't know there was a new
one. I just like building blasters out of bmg cases and
simple conversions of existing guns and actions.That
Savage 12GA FH outdoes the 700NE, Nyati, 600NE, Trex,
and all that is a great source of accomplishment. Ed
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Old March 25, 2006, 09:05 PM   #128
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Checked a couple NEF Ultra Slug guns, 10 and 12ga.Real heavy
barrels, but not alloy barrels. Could cut off barrel ahead of
pivot, and machine and internal thread it, for a monoblock
to put a heavy long alloy barrel into. Treat the monoblock
to higher strength. Put on a weighted thumbhole buttstock
that in combo with heavy barrel, would be 16-20 lbs and you
be set for our case.Ed.
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Old March 25, 2006, 10:32 PM   #129
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a very interesting project. congratulations on your success
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Old March 27, 2006, 01:25 PM   #130
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Robert-Thankyou--Rob, John ,and I worked on this for
over two years and it is great to see it get a
little notoriety. I've posted info on couple dozen forums
and got hundreds of responses and over 45,000 views,Ed.
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Old March 29, 2006, 08:21 PM   #131
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A few are interested in setting up guns for our
caliber..I have a few extra cases yet and I can get
anyone needing cases to where they can get them
with rims on ready to fireform.Reamers are expensive and
I can chamber barrels for others with tooling I have,
for fraction of reamers cost, to help. I just can't work on recievers.Ed.
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Old March 31, 2006, 03:59 AM   #132
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Tested a 870gr hardened cast bullet that Greg Sappington
makes.Got it to 2300 fps at moderate pressures,and
lightened it with hollowpoint to get it to 2500 showing
no signs of leading the barrel. Greg will like that.
No regular 12ga has been able to test them that fast.
Here is pic of 3 870 gr slugs with one in a case.Ed

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Old April 3, 2006, 01:05 AM   #133
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Had a question about costs per shot--
For me 5 buck per lb surplus powder, hard slug 70 cents,
primer 24 cents, adds up to $1.15 per shot.20 buck, canister
powder makes it $1.75. Not bad considering the
power we are getting.Ed
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Old April 5, 2006, 03:05 AM   #134
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Tested a 500 gr solid at 2800 fps. I used 750 gr hollowbase
banded solid, shortened a little and hollowpointed.Tried it out to see how fast it could go in Savage at lower
pressures I use.Ed.
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Old April 9, 2006, 05:02 AM   #135
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Anyone wants any cartridges with slugs for their collections
I have some extras. Let me know.Ed
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Old April 9, 2006, 04:30 PM   #136
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Quote:
Had a question about costs per shot--
For me 5 buck per lb surplus powder, hard slug 70 cents,
primer 24 cents, adds up to $1.15 per shot.20 buck, canister
powder makes it $1.75. Not bad considering the
power we are getting.Ed
It's nearly the same price I pay every .454 factory round.

BTW, have you ever seen this?

http://www.biellaclub.it/_prs/marcorigido/Cucciolo.htm
It's a revolver made by an Italian gunsmith, it shoots 12 gauge rounds similar to yours (but the brass isn't from the .50 BMG).
If you're interested I can translate the webpage.
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Old April 9, 2006, 04:55 PM   #137
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I've seen that. He uses regular length brass 12ga
cases, like Magtech and others make. Ed.
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Old April 9, 2006, 05:42 PM   #138
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Ed, I'm a machinist in Tallahassee, FL. I'd love to get one of those cases if you did not mind.
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Old April 9, 2006, 08:43 PM   #139
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Buzztail- Yes I can get you one, got to ship to 2 others
this week also. Also anyone else.
Email me- gunowner@journey.com --Ed.
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Old April 9, 2006, 09:10 PM   #140
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Mr. Hubel,

Email sent.

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Old April 10, 2006, 01:39 AM   #141
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Ed, One more interested..............E-mail on the way.
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Old April 10, 2006, 08:12 PM   #142
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LOL, Hubel. You're everywhere. I even saw your thread over at Practical Machinist.

You seem to have missed Home Machinist, though.
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Old April 10, 2006, 08:18 PM   #143
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I've seen that. He uses regular length brass 12ga
cases, like Magtech and others make. Ed.
Yes, but he probably loads them to higher pressure since he doesn't work on existing actions.
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Old April 11, 2006, 02:20 AM   #144
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I dont recall it being requested, but can we get a video of this beast being fired? Please.
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Old April 11, 2006, 11:35 PM   #145
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We hope to video it this summer. If Johnny gets up
this way, I'll get him to put it on his show.Ed.
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Old April 16, 2006, 02:44 AM   #146
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Here is picture of original Savage and the heavy barrel
that I put on it. Quite a bit more weight and length.
The action is shown in the heavy maple stock I used, and
the original was light plastic stock.Ed


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Old April 16, 2006, 04:37 AM   #147
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Holy u know, I think we're all looking forward to some ballistics charts and coefficients... I think I still might be interested in a short barrel for home regardless, how 'bout a double barrell 2 trigger cowboy style... "wrong house, sir"
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Old April 17, 2006, 10:09 PM   #148
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Medic--Good home defense load with buckshot.Not full
tilt loads/As far as doubles we are checking on some
to see if they will work.Ed.
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Old April 20, 2006, 08:01 PM   #149
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Here is pictur of a neat slug a guy is building.
It is .629 and he is trying to find/make a sabot
to get it to .729 for 12ga. When he does we will test it.
Its design also make it stable in smooth bore.Ed


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Old April 21, 2006, 01:56 AM   #150
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Mr. Hubel,

I recieved my cartridge yesterday. Thank you very much for the quick shipping, and thorough packaging.

I'm looking forward to working up a smoothbore piece in this chambering.

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