12GA Rifle From HELL-- - Page 6

Spiggy · March 21, 2006, 03:45 AM

no giant ape can withstand the power of the evil 12ga rifle from hell!

hubel458 · March 23, 2006, 08:57 PM

Never saw movie, in fact didn't know there was a new
one. I just like building blasters out of bmg cases and
simple conversions of existing guns and actions.That
Savage 12GA FH outdoes the 700NE, Nyati, 600NE, Trex,
and all that is a great source of accomplishment. Ed

hubel458 · March 25, 2006, 08:05 PM

Checked a couple NEF Ultra Slug guns, 10 and 12ga.Real heavy
barrels, but not alloy barrels. Could cut off barrel ahead of
pivot, and machine and internal thread it, for a monoblock
to put a heavy long alloy barrel into. Treat the monoblock
to higher strength. Put on a weighted thumbhole buttstock
that in combo with heavy barrel, would be 16-20 lbs and you
be set for our case.Ed.

13.45 · March 25, 2006, 09:32 PM

a very interesting project. congratulations on your success

hubel458 · March 27, 2006, 12:25 PM

Robert-Thankyou--Rob, John ,and I worked on this for
over two years and it is great to see it get a
little notoriety. I've posted info on couple dozen forums
and got hundreds of responses and over 45,000 views,Ed.

hubel458 · March 29, 2006, 07:21 PM

A few are interested in setting up guns for our
caliber..I have a few extra cases yet and I can get
anyone needing cases to where they can get them
with rims on ready to fireform.Reamers are expensive and
I can chamber barrels for others with tooling I have,
for fraction of reamers cost, to help. I just can't work on recievers.Ed.

hubel458 · March 31, 2006, 02:59 AM

Tested a 870gr hardened cast bullet that Greg Sappington
makes.Got it to 2300 fps at moderate pressures,and
lightened it with hollowpoint to get it to 2500 showing
no signs of leading the barrel. Greg will like that.
No regular 12ga has been able to test them that fast.
Here is pic of 3 870 gr slugs with one in a case.Ed

hubel458 · April 3, 2006, 12:05 AM

Had a question about costs per shot--
For me 5 buck per lb surplus powder, hard slug 70 cents,
primer 24 cents, adds up to $1.15 per shot.20 buck, canister
powder makes it $1.75. Not bad considering the
power we are getting.Ed

hubel458 · April 5, 2006, 02:05 AM

Tested a 500 gr solid at 2800 fps. I used 750 gr hollowbase
banded solid, shortened a little and hollowpointed.Tried it out to see how fast it could go in Savage at lower
pressures I use.Ed.

hubel458 · April 9, 2006, 04:02 AM

Anyone wants any cartridges with slugs for their collections
I have some extras. Let me know.Ed

Giolli Joker · April 9, 2006, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Had a question about costs per shot--
For me 5 buck per lb surplus powder, hard slug 70 cents,
primer 24 cents, adds up to $1.15 per shot.20 buck, canister
powder makes it $1.75. Not bad considering the
power we are getting.Ed

It's nearly the same price I pay every .454 factory round.

BTW, have you ever seen this?

http://www.biellaclub.it/_prs/marcorigido/Cucciolo.htm
It's a revolver made by an Italian gunsmith, it shoots 12 gauge rounds similar to yours (but the brass isn't from the .50 BMG).
If you're interested I can translate the webpage.

hubel458 · April 9, 2006, 03:55 PM

I've seen that. He uses regular length brass 12ga
cases, like Magtech and others make. Ed.

Buzztail · April 9, 2006, 04:42 PM

Ed, I'm a machinist in Tallahassee, FL. I'd love to get one of those cases if you did not mind.

hubel458 · April 9, 2006, 07:43 PM

Buzztail- Yes I can get you one, got to ship to 2 others
this week also. Also anyone else.
Email me- gunowner@journey.com --Ed.

Hellion Productions · April 9, 2006, 08:10 PM

Mr. Hubel,

Email sent.

Best,
John Bear Ross

Ol` Joe · April 10, 2006, 12:39 AM

Ed, One more interested..............E-mail on the way.

CypherNinja · April 10, 2006, 07:12 PM

LOL, Hubel. You're everywhere. I even saw your thread over at Practical Machinist.

You seem to have missed Home Machinist, though.

Giolli Joker · April 10, 2006, 07:18 PM

Quote:

I've seen that. He uses regular length brass 12ga
cases, like Magtech and others make. Ed.

Yes, but he probably loads them to higher pressure since he doesn't work on existing actions.

SB88LX · April 11, 2006, 01:20 AM

I dont recall it being requested, but can we get a video of this beast being fired?

Please.

hubel458 · April 11, 2006, 10:35 PM

We hope to video it this summer. If Johnny gets up
this way, I'll get him to put it on his show.Ed.

hubel458 · April 16, 2006, 01:44 AM

Here is picture of original Savage and the heavy barrel
that I put on it. Quite a bit more weight and length.
The action is shown in the heavy maple stock I used, and
the original was light plastic stock.Ed

medic0437 · April 16, 2006, 03:37 AM

Holy u know, I think we're all looking forward to some ballistics charts and coefficients... I think I still might be interested in a short barrel for home regardless, how 'bout a double barrell 2 trigger cowboy style... "wrong house, sir"

hubel458 · April 17, 2006, 09:09 PM

Medic--Good home defense load with buckshot.Not full
tilt loads/As far as doubles we are checking on some
to see if they will work.Ed.

hubel458 · April 20, 2006, 07:01 PM

Here is pictur of a neat slug a guy is building.
It is .629 and he is trying to find/make a sabot
to get it to .729 for 12ga. When he does we will test it.
Its design also make it stable in smooth bore.Ed

Hellion Productions · April 21, 2006, 12:56 AM

Mr. Hubel,

I recieved my cartridge yesterday. Thank you very much for the quick shipping, and thorough packaging.

I'm looking forward to working up a smoothbore piece in this chambering.

Best,
John Bear Ross

March 21, 2006, 03:45 AM	#126
Spiggy Member Join Date: October 10, 2005 Location: The Sunny PR of Kalifornistanichevolakia, Right behind the Orange Curtain Posts: 651	no giant ape can withstand the power of the evil 12ga rifle from hell! __________________ 442nd RCT/100th Battalion Reenacted One Puka-Puka!

March 23, 2006, 08:57 PM	#127
hubel458 Member Join Date: March 1, 2003 Location: Brinton,Mich. Posts: 525	Never saw movie, in fact didn't know there was a new one. I just like building blasters out of bmg cases and simple conversions of existing guns and actions.That Savage 12GA FH outdoes the 700NE, Nyati, 600NE, Trex, and all that is a great source of accomplishment. Ed __________________ Ed Hubel.

March 25, 2006, 08:05 PM	#128
hubel458 Member Join Date: March 1, 2003 Location: Brinton,Mich. Posts: 525	Checked a couple NEF Ultra Slug guns, 10 and 12ga.Real heavy barrels, but not alloy barrels. Could cut off barrel ahead of pivot, and machine and internal thread it, for a monoblock to put a heavy long alloy barrel into. Treat the monoblock to higher strength. Put on a weighted thumbhole buttstock that in combo with heavy barrel, would be 16-20 lbs and you be set for our case.Ed. __________________ Ed Hubel.

March 25, 2006, 09:32 PM	#129
13.45 Member Join Date: November 14, 2003 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico Posts: 154	a very interesting project. congratulations on your success __________________ thanks very much, robert (13.45) NRA Benefactor Life Member

March 27, 2006, 12:25 PM	#130
hubel458 Member Join Date: March 1, 2003 Location: Brinton,Mich. Posts: 525	Robert-Thankyou--Rob, John ,and I worked on this for over two years and it is great to see it get a little notoriety. I've posted info on couple dozen forums and got hundreds of responses and over 45,000 views,Ed. __________________ Ed Hubel.

March 29, 2006, 07:21 PM	#131
hubel458 Member Join Date: March 1, 2003 Location: Brinton,Mich. Posts: 525	A few are interested in setting up guns for our caliber..I have a few extra cases yet and I can get anyone needing cases to where they can get them with rims on ready to fireform.Reamers are expensive and I can chamber barrels for others with tooling I have, for fraction of reamers cost, to help. I just can't work on recievers.Ed. __________________ Ed Hubel.

March 31, 2006, 02:59 AM	#132
hubel458 Member Join Date: March 1, 2003 Location: Brinton,Mich. Posts: 525	Tested a 870gr hardened cast bullet that Greg Sappington makes.Got it to 2300 fps at moderate pressures,and lightened it with hollowpoint to get it to 2500 showing no signs of leading the barrel. Greg will like that. No regular 12ga has been able to test them that fast. Here is pic of 3 870 gr slugs with one in a case.Ed __________________ Ed Hubel.

April 3, 2006, 12:05 AM	#133
hubel458 Member Join Date: March 1, 2003 Location: Brinton,Mich. Posts: 525	Had a question about costs per shot-- For me 5 buck per lb surplus powder, hard slug 70 cents, primer 24 cents, adds up to $1.15 per shot.20 buck, canister powder makes it $1.75. Not bad considering the power we are getting.Ed __________________ Ed Hubel.

April 5, 2006, 02:05 AM	#134
hubel458 Member Join Date: March 1, 2003 Location: Brinton,Mich. Posts: 525	Tested a 500 gr solid at 2800 fps. I used 750 gr hollowbase banded solid, shortened a little and hollowpointed.Tried it out to see how fast it could go in Savage at lower pressures I use.Ed. __________________ Ed Hubel.

April 9, 2006, 04:02 AM	#135
hubel458 Member Join Date: March 1, 2003 Location: Brinton,Mich. Posts: 525	Anyone wants any cartridges with slugs for their collections I have some extras. Let me know.Ed __________________ Ed Hubel.

April 9, 2006, 03:55 PM	#137
hubel458 Member Join Date: March 1, 2003 Location: Brinton,Mich. Posts: 525	I've seen that. He uses regular length brass 12ga cases, like Magtech and others make. Ed. __________________ Ed Hubel.

April 9, 2006, 04:42 PM	#138
Buzztail Member Join Date: April 6, 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 296	Ed, I'm a machinist in Tallahassee, FL. I'd love to get one of those cases if you did not mind.

April 9, 2006, 07:43 PM	#139
hubel458 Member Join Date: March 1, 2003 Location: Brinton,Mich. Posts: 525	Buzztail- Yes I can get you one, got to ship to 2 others this week also. Also anyone else. Email me- gunowner@journey.com --Ed. __________________ Ed Hubel.

April 9, 2006, 08:10 PM	#140
Hellion Productions Member Join Date: April 23, 2004 Location: Pahrump, NV Posts: 66	Mr. Hubel, Email sent. Best, John Bear Ross __________________ http://www.johnbearross.com "DAN FONG LIVES!" I'm not THAT John Ross...I'm THIS John Ross...

April 10, 2006, 12:39 AM	#141
Ol` Joe Member Join Date: February 25, 2004 Location: michigan Posts: 2,087	Ed, One more interested..............E-mail on the way. __________________ "Saepe errans, numquam dubitans --Frequently in error, never in doubt". http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2941/284die.jpg Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when they deserve it. --Mark Twain

April 10, 2006, 07:12 PM	#142
CypherNinja Member Join Date: November 18, 2005 Location: Willoughby, Ohio Posts: 811	LOL, Hubel. You're everywhere. I even saw your thread over at Practical Machinist. You seem to have missed Home Machinist, though. __________________ "The chief foundations of all states, new as well as old or composite, are good laws and good arms; and as there cannot be good laws where the state is not well armed, it follows that where they are well armed they have good laws." -Machiavelli "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -James Madison "If government is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question." -*Standing Wolf*

April 11, 2006, 01:20 AM	#144
SB88LX Member Join Date: June 23, 2004 Location: Under tyranny in MD Posts: 256	I dont recall it being requested, but can we get a video of this beast being fired? Please.

April 11, 2006, 10:35 PM	#145
hubel458 Member Join Date: March 1, 2003 Location: Brinton,Mich. Posts: 525	We hope to video it this summer. If Johnny gets up this way, I'll get him to put it on his show.Ed. __________________ Ed Hubel.

April 16, 2006, 01:44 AM	#146
hubel458 Member Join Date: March 1, 2003 Location: Brinton,Mich. Posts: 525	Here is picture of original Savage and the heavy barrel that I put on it. Quite a bit more weight and length. The action is shown in the heavy maple stock I used, and the original was light plastic stock.Ed __________________ Ed Hubel.

April 16, 2006, 03:37 AM	#147
medic0437 Member Join Date: April 6, 2006 Location: denver, colorado Posts: 13	Holy u know, I think we're all looking forward to some ballistics charts and coefficients... I think I still might be interested in a short barrel for home regardless, how 'bout a double barrell 2 trigger cowboy style... "wrong house, sir"

April 17, 2006, 09:09 PM	#148
hubel458 Member Join Date: March 1, 2003 Location: Brinton,Mich. Posts: 525	Medic--Good home defense load with buckshot.Not full tilt loads/As far as doubles we are checking on some to see if they will work.Ed. __________________ Ed Hubel.

April 20, 2006, 07:01 PM	#149
hubel458 Member Join Date: March 1, 2003 Location: Brinton,Mich. Posts: 525	Here is pictur of a neat slug a guy is building. It is .629 and he is trying to find/make a sabot to get it to .729 for 12ga. When he does we will test it. Its design also make it stable in smooth bore.Ed __________________ Ed Hubel.

April 21, 2006, 12:56 AM	#150
Hellion Productions Member Join Date: April 23, 2004 Location: Pahrump, NV Posts: 66	Mr. Hubel, I recieved my cartridge yesterday. Thank you very much for the quick shipping, and thorough packaging. I'm looking forward to working up a smoothbore piece in this chambering. Best, John Bear Ross __________________ http://www.johnbearross.com "DAN FONG LIVES!" I'm not THAT John Ross...I'm THIS John Ross...