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Old January 4, 2003, 05:26 AM   #1
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Nail Gun License?

I was watching "This Old House" just now. A fellow was using a nail gun and mentioned that "you have to be licensed to use this."

WTH???

Is that the law in whatever state that show is taped?

When I was in high school I worked for my dad, in construction, during the summers. I used nail guns frequently. Never had a license, though.
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Old January 4, 2003, 05:39 AM   #2
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I have one.

There are some "nail" (more correctly called fasteners) guns that use a small .22 (or similar) blank to shoot the fastener into the desired surface. They're made for wood, various metal surfaces and concrete. The blanks come with different power levels and you have to choose the correct shot for the type of fastener and the type of surface you are shooting into.

I have the certification card for all models of Hilti power actuated fasteners. They make a semi-auto model that uses blanks attached to a stripper clip that are pretty neat. They also have sound suppressors on them.

I believe the requirement to be certified comes from OSHA and not ATF or any other firearm related organization. ATF does not even classify them as firearms.
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Old January 4, 2003, 07:19 AM   #3
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A few more incidents like this and the sheep WILL start bleating for licensing/registration of nail guns.

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/news/90602_sn_nail.html


Man doesn't realize he shot nail into his brain

By The Associated Press
(9/6/02 - Santa Clarita, California) — A nail in the brain has got to hurt. Right?

Not to Southern California construction worker Jorge Hernandez. He accidentally shot himself in the head with a nail gun and didn't realize it. Hernandez says he didn't know he had a nail in his head until he saw it in the mirror of his car.

The nail apparently ricocheted off a piece of metal, went through his eye socket and lodged in his brain. He says his face felt hot but he didn't even have a headache. It took doctors three hours to remove the more than-three-inch long spike.

Somehow, the nail managed to miss his eye and not cause any brain damage. Hernandez's brain surgeon feels that kind of luck is better than winning the lottery.


Geez. Found another:

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/livin...nds010802.html
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Old January 4, 2003, 09:52 AM   #4
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If it's from OSHA it would be nationwide, would it not? I have enver encountered it and I've helped a friend build mini-malls all over three states off and on for years. Even had the OSHA geek show up a time or two and he never uttered a word about the .22's, the air or airless guns(too busy whining about scaffolding, possibly).
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Old January 4, 2003, 10:20 AM   #5
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Don't know who requires it then. I even have a "Forklift Drivers License". Don't know who came up with that one either, but we have to have one before they turn us loose with one.
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Old January 4, 2003, 10:59 AM   #6
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Some piece of scum tried to kidnap a sixteen year old girl with a nail gun here on New Years Day.

http://www.wwltv.com/local/WWL0103Ke....53908574.html


Hkmp5sd wrote:

"Don't know who requires it then. I even have a "Forklift Drivers License". Don't know who came up with that one either, but we have to have one before they turn us loose with one."

I've got one of those forklift licences from my job. My supervisor asked me "can you drive that thing?". I said "Yep". He handed me the license

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Old January 4, 2003, 12:07 PM   #7
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I also had to be certified to use our Hilti Power Acctuated nailer.
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Old January 4, 2003, 02:58 PM   #8
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Nailguns are dangerous. Don't watch this if you're in the middle of drinking something at your keyboard. May be too big for 56K'ers:

http://www.freespeed.de/html/player/...lion07_br.html
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Old January 4, 2003, 03:02 PM   #9
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That was classic!

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Old January 4, 2003, 03:06 PM   #10
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"you have to be licensed to use this."
A little humor in the program, perhaps?
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Old January 4, 2003, 08:47 PM   #11
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I think I saw the same episode, they were in England, if I remember right.
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Old January 4, 2003, 11:02 PM   #12
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Yeah, OSHA does require a license to shoot Hilti nail guns,I've had mine since "93",and I've seen guys at construction sites approached by OSHA inspectors with ID's ask for their license's,and if they could not show them,their company was fined anywhere from $25.00 on up depending on the size of the project,how many guys shooting without a license,etc. Your also gig'ed even if your shooting with a license,but don't have protective construction helmet,eye protection also,true some inspectors will nitpic,but the bottom line with OSHA is safety.
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Old January 5, 2003, 03:57 PM   #13
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OK, stupid question: What's a Hilti? I've used Bostitch, Bosch, Senco, Remington and maybe a half dozen others but never heard of Hilti? Is the license specific to these, or supposedly generic for all nail guns? If the latter then someone is feeding somebody a line somewhere.
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Old January 5, 2003, 04:17 PM   #14
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Hilti is

Hilti is a company that manufactures tools for the construction trade. Concrete core rigs, grinders, hammer drills and many other things. http://www.us.hilti.com/
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Old January 5, 2003, 04:31 PM   #15
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Hmmm, I don't see a thing in the cursory look I took at their page that appears any different from Bostitch or Senco stuff. I know there's no licenses required for those, either airless, air or caps because sometime in the last three years, somewhere in Illinois or elsewhere one of those OSHA guys would have nailed one of us if so...

Can ya tell I'm curious at this point? Thx for the link.
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Old January 5, 2003, 04:36 PM   #16
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NP 2nd Amendment

I was trained by a factory rep from Hilti and I am not sure about OSHA rules. Were I work we are not subject to OSHA. I work for the State of NY. We are coverd by PESH (Public Employee's Saftey and Health) basicly a state run version of OSHA.

Did some looking and found this on OSHA's website
"(e) Powder-actuated tools.

(e)(1) Only employees who have been trained in the operation of the particular tool in use shall be allowed to operate a powder-actuated tool. "

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Old July 28, 2014, 01:31 PM   #17
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There are some "nail" (more correctly called fasteners) guns that use a small .22 (or similar) blank to shoot the fastener into the desired surface. They're made for wood, various metal surfaces and concrete. The blanks come with different power levels and you have to choose the correct shot for the type of fastener and the type of surface you are shooting into.

I have the certification card for all models of Hilti power actuated fasteners. They make a semi-auto model that uses blanks attached to a stripper clip that are pretty neat. They also have sound suppressors on them.

I believe the requirement to be certified comes from OSHA and not ATF or any other firearm related organization. ATF does not even classify them as firearms.
I see in early January you stated that you had a HILTI certification license card and I was wondering if you knew what steps I needed to take to get a replacement card?
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Old July 28, 2014, 01:38 PM   #18
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Early January 2003.
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Old July 28, 2014, 02:13 PM   #19
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Early January 2003.

Wow


...Is HILTI still in business?

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Old July 28, 2014, 02:59 PM   #20
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Wow, I've seen threads Zombified but this takes the cake.
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Old July 28, 2014, 03:04 PM   #21
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That show originates from Boston MA so in theory... everything is illegal without a license.
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Old July 28, 2014, 03:06 PM   #22
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If you are using Hilti products you could probably talk to the sales person you are dealing with (contact hilti) & they will set a class up for you. At least that is the way I have always seen it done when we do it. I don't know about ramset or any of the other brands. Bunch of hassle for insurance companies.
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Old July 28, 2014, 03:12 PM   #23
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Let's let this one die a(nother) natural death.

Way off topic anyway.
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