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Old April 12, 2014, 01:01 PM   #1
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Metering 4064 is driving me nutz any hints.

Loading up a boat load of .223 with imr 4064 using an rcbs powder drop. I'm loading a large batch and I really like to use a .45 cal bullet tray from a box of loaded ammo charge 50 cases then look with a flashlight at each case but tryin to cut the powder things can get a lil messy.
and one at a time doesn't really do it for me. If you have any secrets to make things smoother now is the time share.
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Old April 12, 2014, 01:10 PM   #2
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Here is a simple answer though you will not like it> Hodgden Benchmark or IMR 8208.

They meter like a dream. I started reloading with IMR 4064 and thought it sucked, I am so glad over time I have found other powders. I think RL 10 and RL 15 meter pretty good, too. All my new stuff meters good,
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Old April 12, 2014, 02:04 PM   #3
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Another simple answer a better meter Lyman 55.
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Old April 12, 2014, 02:23 PM   #4
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Yeah I know 4064 is not my best choice but works very well in .223 my go to powder is bl-c-2 or tac but I'm lucky to have a few lb of 4064. And a better powder dropper is an option but I am very happy wu th the rcbs except the few times I use extruded powder always me first choice is ball powder.
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Old April 12, 2014, 04:13 PM   #5
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I continue to use the lee PPM, and it runs 4064 fairly well. Is the rcbs baffled?
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Old April 12, 2014, 05:25 PM   #6
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I added a baffle made from a prescription-bottle lid for my Lee PPM and it now meters 4064 very well. If you can find some Varget, it's in the same burn-speed range but tends to meter a little better.

If you don't have a baffle in it, try to add one and see what it does.

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Old April 12, 2014, 05:31 PM   #7
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Post #5 is the winner! Lee PPM dispenses 4064 within two tenths of a grain consistently. Most often dead on. I just got done loading 300 rounds of .308 and 200 rounds of 30.06. Does it better than my Lyman 55 or RCBS Uniflow both of which do have baffles and still aren't as consistent as the Lee PPM.
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Old April 12, 2014, 05:40 PM   #8
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Morcey 2,

Can you post a pic of the baffle you made from the prescription bottle lid?

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Old April 12, 2014, 06:02 PM   #9
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Morcey 2,

Can you post a pic of the baffle you made from the prescription bottle lid?

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yep. As soon as my camera gets back. It's in the van and should be back in an hour or so.
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Old April 12, 2014, 06:30 PM   #10
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I'm a Varget kind of guy; it meters pretty well. As has been mentioned, Benchmark is also good. If I have to fool around with stick powders that don't play nice, I just use my RCBS electronic scale / dispenser combo, but with one twist. If you wait for the dispenser to measure out the full charge, you'll be all day. So I also get out the Uniflow, and throw charges of 4064 or whatever about a half grain low, throw that in the pan and hit the button on the dispenser. It brings it up to weight in a few seconds. Surprising how many cases can be charged in an hour this way.
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Old April 12, 2014, 06:35 PM   #11
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Not the greatest piece of engineering in history, but it works. Unlike the fancy metal ones, this one just sits right at the bottom of the hopper.

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Old April 12, 2014, 07:17 PM   #12
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morcey2,

I get the idea. Thank you very much.
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Old April 13, 2014, 10:34 AM   #13
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morcey2 - any particular reason the holes aren't round?

Seems like that would have been easier to do, and would function the same.
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Old April 13, 2014, 11:06 AM   #14
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looks like he used a handy blade to quickly perforate the baffle, instead of rummaging around for his drill and appropriate size bit.
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Old April 13, 2014, 12:10 PM   #15
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I have double aluminum baffles in my PPM but the only thing that helps my 4064 drops is to figure out how many taps I need to give the handle in order to get maximum fill capacity of the rotor. Usually it takes three sharp taps. Them I adjust the rotor volume. I can get consistent +/- 0.1gr drops doing it this way. But I'm only using 4064 for .308 and only load 40-50 rounds at a time

For .223 loads my powders are Alliant 1200-R and WC844 (mil surplus H335). Those are ball powders that meter like water out of my PPM.
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Old April 13, 2014, 12:14 PM   #16
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Or get a product like the RCBS Chargemaster 1500 which will handle any powder :-)
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Old April 13, 2014, 12:24 PM   #17
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morcey2 - any particular reason the holes aren't round?

Seems like that would have been easier to do, and would function the same.
The only reason is that the square-ish cuts were easier with my pocket knife which was somewhat dull at the time.
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Old April 14, 2014, 09:14 AM   #18
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I have double aluminum baffles in my PPM but the only thing that helps my 4064 drops is to figure out how many taps I need to give the handle in order to get maximum fill capacity of the rotor. Usually it takes three sharp taps. Them I adjust the rotor volume. I can get consistent +/- 0.1gr drops doing it this way. But I'm only using 4064 for .308 and only load 40-50 rounds at a time

For .223 loads my powders are Alliant 1200-R and WC844 (mil surplus H335). Those are ball powders that meter like water out of my PPM.
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I used This attached file! The soda can works great and it is easily cut with almost any of your wifes shears in her sewing kit. Just don't tell her!
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Old April 14, 2014, 09:32 AM   #19
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I forgot to mention that although my PPM has no baffle I give it a sharp thump with my finger before dispensing. I also keep it filled to roughly the same level. I don't know what affect this has on the accuracy but it is how I have always done it and I am pleased with the results. I am going to make a baffle like the one "morcey2" shared. Thanks for the info. Always looking for ways to improve or simplify my process.
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