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Old July 13, 2016, 10:10 AM   #1
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WADCUTTERS and the 45 COLT...?

Is Matts bullets the only place that sells 250gr full wadcutters for the 45 ?
Or am i not looking in the right place. Would like to try some in my single action.
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Old July 13, 2016, 10:45 AM   #2
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250 grain. Probably. Heres some lighter bullets. I use the 225's. More accurate than I am.

http://store.midatlanticbullets.com/...wadcutter.aspx

https://www.pennbullets.com/45/45225wcbb.html
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Old July 13, 2016, 10:51 AM   #3
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WHY?

A two sentence post, with very little information will get a wide variety of responses, or NO responses. A single action WHAT? Why the need for a full wadcutter? Very few full wadcutters are made in 45 caliber, there's just no need for them.

A SEMIwadcutter cuts clean holes in target paper and thousands of molds and ready cast bullets are made in .452-.454 diameters.
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Old July 13, 2016, 11:47 AM   #4
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He posted this on another forum and the intent is for a defensive round that won't over penetrate. The problem with that theory is that a 250 gr. bullet of any design, pushed at 800 to 1,000 fps is going to just keep pushing it's way on through. A perfect example was the original loading for the .45-70 at roughly 1,250 to 1,300 fps. It would go completely through a buffalo a lot of the time, and the principle is basically the same.

I think the firearm is a Blackhawk.

Hope this helps.

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Old July 13, 2016, 11:48 AM   #5
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Why not?

I've always wondered why 38 special wadcutters were fairly popular, but in other calibers they're all but none existent.

Using the logic that semiwadcutters are just as good, than why the popularity in 38 special?
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Old July 13, 2016, 12:05 PM   #6
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Correction:

It was this forum where he posted his reasoning:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=806791

The .38 Special's use of full wadcutter and Hollow Base Wadcutter designs is because for so many years it was the king of Bullseye and PPC shooting. As such, there was a lot of demand for bullets that were not only accurate out to 50 yards, but that could be scored easily. A flat faced bullet cuts a very clean hole in target stock or cardboard, so when there is a question about a shot touching the line of the next higher score ring, it's more easily answered via the clean cut hole. Many matches were one by one point...........

The longer bearing surface also lends itself well to accuracy. My old K-38 PPC gun happens to love them.

I don't think I've ever seen a .45 Colt revolver used in either Bullseye or PPC competition, but that doesn't mean it hasn't been done.

Hope this helps.

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Old July 13, 2016, 12:31 PM   #7
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1. The wadcutter seats much deeper in the voluminous 45 colt case and you get better burn out of light powder charges of dense powder. Keeps the SD to a minimum.

2. The heel base helps with guns such as the SAA where bore diameters can be all over the place cylinder to barrel .
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Old July 13, 2016, 12:49 PM   #8
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Sorry, single action revolver, fixed signts, 4.75" barrel
Lookin at roughly, about, close to, but may not be right at 700-750 fps. My revolver shoots to sights with slower heavier bullet.
Yes for defensive round. Figured wadcutter at 8-10 bhn wont get over penetration.
I have other bullet molds for casting practice pills.
Thought i would give WC's a try to see how they perform without dropping 85$ for a mold
Thanks for the replies.
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Old July 13, 2016, 04:12 PM   #9
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FWIW, I've got an NOE mold that casts 250gr .45 wadcutters. My current .45 Colt load is 4.5gr of Bullseye. Haven't chronographed it yet, but it's not a heavy load and shoots well.

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Old July 13, 2016, 04:36 PM   #10
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Old July 15, 2016, 01:32 AM   #11
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Depending on what you're defending yourself against, these may do the trick.

185gr SWCHP
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Old July 15, 2016, 07:52 AM   #12
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Sport45, thanks for the link. My fixed sighted revolver shoots light bullets way low. Dont want to file sights just yet.
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Old July 15, 2016, 04:25 PM   #13
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Your bullets are on the way.

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Old July 15, 2016, 05:26 PM   #14
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cool idea
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Old July 15, 2016, 10:46 PM   #15
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Your bullets are on the way.

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Thanks Don, much appreciated! And may the good deed be returned someday!
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Old July 24, 2016, 05:57 PM   #16
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At one time I worked up a "wadcutter" load in .44 Mag brass using backward SWCs. The thought to use at bowling pins matches.

In actual practice, I didn't find it any more effective than running normal front-facing SWCs, so I finished shooting up what I had and haven't loaded any more.

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Old July 25, 2016, 07:10 PM   #17
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I have carried a 45 colt Blackhawk with 255 gr lswc for roughly 30 years as a trail gun and for finishing hogs. In my experience, you have no chance of making these low penetration rounds and before you did so you would have incomplete burns and possibly squib rounds.

While a 6-8 bhn light hp may work, I have a twin that shoots .38 5 bhn 158 gr lswc-hp that is a perfect prescription.
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Old July 25, 2016, 10:27 PM   #18
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Lee made 45 Colt wadcutter moulds 454-235-WC at one time.Out of production now. I have a single cavity version and they are great bullets.
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Old July 26, 2016, 07:47 AM   #19
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Garretj, i had 44 special bulldog that i loaded some backwards 240 gr tunble lube bullets in. Accuracy was fair.
I am in the process of testing some 250 grainers from a NOE mold. These are around 8 bhn and so far look to be real good against two leg varmints.
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Old July 26, 2016, 09:18 PM   #20
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tBS,

Let's see some target pics.

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Old July 27, 2016, 07:43 AM   #21
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Let's see some target pics.

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Don, I can't post pics, but i will send one to your email.
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Old July 27, 2016, 06:08 PM   #22
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Here you go. 5 shots at 15 yards. Not too shabby.



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Old July 28, 2016, 09:36 PM   #23
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