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Old March 26, 2015, 12:55 AM   #1
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Whatever happened to Bill Cassidy's antique bill?

He introduced a bill in early 2014 to update the antique cutoff from 1899 to 1914. Does anyone know what happened to the bill and if it was reintroduced in 2015? As I recall it was not getting a lot of bad press and did not seem controversial.

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Old March 26, 2015, 11:15 AM   #2
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Let's be progressive and move the cutoff to 1999 -- those guns are so last century
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Old March 26, 2015, 01:22 PM   #3
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Not much:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-...ll/173/actions
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Old March 26, 2015, 01:28 PM   #4
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Why was it moved to the Finance committee? Is that a way to just kill it?
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Old March 26, 2015, 02:06 PM   #5
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Why was it moved to the Finance committee? Is that a way to just kill it?
It looks like he reintroduced his 2014 bill this year so I have hopes it is not dead.

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Old March 26, 2015, 03:19 PM   #6
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If they're going to do it I'd prefer they implement a moving date rather than fixed.

IE, anything manufactured more than 100 years from the current year. C&R licenses already use a sliding year of 50 years old - 100 for antiques shouldn't be that different.
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Old March 26, 2015, 03:55 PM   #7
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If they're going to do it I'd prefer they implement a moving date rather than fixed.

IE, anything manufactured more than 100 years from the current year. C&R licenses already use a sliding year of 50 years old - 100 for antiques shouldn't be that different.
Now you're talking!

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Old March 26, 2015, 04:21 PM   #8
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Why was it moved to the Finance committee? Is that a way to just kill it?
The official US Government position for the last 81 years has been that the National Firearms Act of 1934 is a TAX bill, not a gun-control bill. So changes to the bill go to the Finance Committee.
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Old March 26, 2015, 06:44 PM   #9
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The senate bill has no co-sponsors. According to govtrack the bill has zero chance of being enacted.

There is a companion bill in the US House: HR 1114. It too has zero chance of being enacted.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/s173
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Old March 26, 2015, 07:49 PM   #10
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The current version of Sen. Cassidy's bill defines an "antique firearm" as 100 or more years old. An earlier version of his bill specified 1913.
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Old March 26, 2015, 08:21 PM   #11
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They are too busy working on bills that have absolutely no chance of passing or passing week extension of bills so that they get to fight the same battle over and over.
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Old March 26, 2015, 08:30 PM   #12
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Except the antique definition is in the GCA ' 68 which is part of criminal law not tax law.

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The definition of antique firearm appears in both the GCA and NFA. Cassidy's bill amends it in both places. NFA is part of the Internal Revenue code. If the bill ever moved through the Finance Committee I'm sure it would also be referred to the Judiciary Committee.
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The definition of antique firearm appears in both the GCA and NFA. Cassidy's bill amends it in both places. NFA is part of the Internal Revenue code. If the bill ever moved through the Finance Committee I'm sure it would also be referred to the Judiciary Committee.
The antique definition does indeed appear in 26 USC 35 but it's only function appears to be a certain exception to the modern "Firearm" catchall category (and specifically mentioned as not an exception to the Machine Gun and DD categories).

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