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Old Yesterday, 11:35 AM   #1
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Dr. John Lott's latest article, "Guns and the New York Times"


Just found this article on the Fox News Website. If it has been previously posted, I apologize.

The gist of the article is that concealed carry folks are even more law abiding than the police...an interesting observation!
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Old Yesterday, 03:57 PM   #2
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Mind giving us a summary?
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Old Yesterday, 04:07 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by Elkins45 View Post
Mind giving us a summary?
As requested, the closing paragraphs of the article:

" Between October 1, 1987 and January 31, 2015, Florida revoked 9,366 concealed handgun permits for misdemeanors or felonies. This is an annual rate of 12.5 per 100,000 permit holders -- a mere tenth of the rate at which officers commit misdemeanors and felonies. In Texas in 2012, the last year the data is available, 120 permit holders were convicted of misdemeanors or felonies – a rate of 20.5 per 100,000, still just a sixth of the rate for police.

Firearms violations among police occur at a rate of 6.9 per 100,000 officers. For permit holders in Florida, it is only 0.31 per 100,000. Most of these violations were for trivial offenses, such as forgetting to carry one’s permit. The data are similar in other states.

Clearly, people who are going to commit crimes don’t bother going through the process of getting a concealed handgun permit.

At some point, maybe the New York Times and other gun control advocates will realize that making false claims about permit holders actually endangers public safety."
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Old Today, 01:55 AM   #4
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So according to the facts, PTC holders are more law abiding than the police sworn to uphold the law? Maybe because PTC holders are put under a microscope to exercise their rights.
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Old Today, 02:05 AM   #5
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In all fairness, it's also true that police officers, due to the nature of their jobs, are more often in a position to be prosecuted (or at least investigated) for their actions. When I go to work tomorrow, the odds are just about nil that I will end up having to physically restrain an individual in the course of my workday. Not so much for a cop. There's virtually no chance that my duties at work in the coming year will put me in a situation where someone will accuse me of violating their rights or of assaulting them. Again, not so much for a typical LEO.

However, that said, it is certainly true that permit holders tend to be a very law-abiding bunch--especially in states like FL and TX where they have to pass a background check to get their permit.
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Old Today, 04:06 AM   #6
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Plus, in some states, police are always looking for a way to revoke gun licenses or carry permits. Failure to keep your lawn cut or a loud muffler on your car can result in CCW cancellation or confiscation of your guns for misdemeanors.

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