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Old November 23, 2014, 10:01 PM   #1
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Shotgun or AR15 for all-purpose

Has anyone here ever chose a shotgun over a AR-15 type rifle ? I've been deer hunting a lot lately and I was doing a lot of thinking. I got a Bushmaster AR-15 10 years ago and have only shot it once. It is fun and I like it but it has sit in my safe for a long time. I have gotten so much more use and fun out of my Mossberg 500 pump shotgun 12 gauge 20 inch barrel 7-shot capacity. I shoot deer with it , plink with it , use it as home defense and on and on .
I am conidering selling the AR15 and maybe buying something else that I could get more use from .
Has any of you guys/gals ever did this or wondered about this ?
I just thought it would be interesting hearing other people's opinions.
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Old November 23, 2014, 10:17 PM   #2
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I did the opposite: sold the pump guns and kept the AR(s). I enjoy plinking and other non-hunting recreational shooting with an AR more than a shotgun. BUT, I live in state that allows deer hunting with .223, I rarely hunt anyway, and I don't hunt birds. So, an AR is better for my purposes, but a 12 GA or 20 GA pump or semi with screw in choke tubes would be far more versatile as an all purpose gun.

If you're not using your AR and need to sell it to get something else, then sell it and get something you like better and you'll use more often. We don't all have to like the same things.
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Old November 23, 2014, 10:22 PM   #3
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Old November 23, 2014, 10:28 PM   #4
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Old November 23, 2014, 10:33 PM   #5
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SHOTGUN. While an AR is awesome, the sg is more versitile. Can you shoot something out of the air (partidge, pheasant, dove, duck) with an AR?
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Old November 23, 2014, 10:33 PM   #6
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Not a hunter by any means here, so the rifle gets my vote..

If I did hunt, it would be something other than fowl, so I'd go for a different rifle, likely a lever action in a suitable caliber for the chosen game..
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Old November 23, 2014, 10:35 PM   #7
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I have both types and many examples. All have their uses, but the shotguns get more actual use because of shooting games, as well as shooting game! The shotgun is great for a house gun, for longer self protection the rifle has its place as well. Why limit yourself to either?
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Old November 23, 2014, 11:04 PM   #8
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Good to have both for emergency's and hunting.
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Old November 23, 2014, 11:06 PM   #9
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If I could only have one long gun, it would be my mossberg 535. Home defense, short range big game, upland birds, turkeys, waterfowl, small game, and clays. Heck, people are even starting to use them for coyotes. I can't imagine it being a very fun "plinking" gun, except for clay pigeons.

Yes, I like my AR, but all I ever do with it is take it to the range for plinking, practice, and casual competitive matches. It's legal for deer and antelope here, but not legal or ethical for elk or bear. It's not legal for turkeys, upland game, or waterfowl. I've never gotten in to varmint hunting.

To be honest, the main reason I bought the AR is out of respect for my second amendment rights and responsibilities. It's fun to shoot and would probably be a better gun for "just in case," but I honestly believe your mossy pump is the all around more practical choice.

Who am I kidding...? I think you should keep em both! Who cares if you haven't shot the ar in 10 years. There are plenty of people who've had their rights infringed and can no longer own an AR. Maybe it's time you took it out for a little practice. Shoot a couple 30-round mags in honor of those who wish they could. I'm being kind of tongue-in-cheek, but kind of serious as well.

If you want some other gun to fill a niche, save up and buy it later.
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Old November 23, 2014, 11:29 PM   #10
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Shotguns are certainly more versatile. They won't let you hunt ducks with an AR for example. I wonder why?

That said the AR is taking over the traditional role of HD that the shotgun has held onto for a very long time. The frontier was tamed with a shotgun for the most part. You can do so many things with it. It was like a flintlock with a bigger hole in it. You could load it down for squirrels and rabbits or load it heavy for bear (loaded for bear?). But not with frangible bullets the AR is safer inside a house.

Still I wouldn't give up my shotguns for any reason. I also have a battle carbine but for a wide variety of jobs (including bears) I still use my shotgun. No I haven't actually had to shoot a bear "yet" but I've been threatened by several of them and I keep one handy any time I go outside at night at the home place and especially if I'm cooking on the grill right at about sundown. Bears smell that mean and they want it and dusk is their time. So I keep a shotgun with slugs rated for dangerous game within easy reach while I'm turning my steaks. I could use a .44 magnum but shotgun slugs don't travel nearly as far and buckshot doesn't travel far at all.

Almost everything that can be done with a rifle can be done with a shotgun. Only long range shooting is really left out. And there's plenty you can do with a shotgun that you can't do with a rifle.
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Old November 23, 2014, 11:38 PM   #11
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Its rare that I prefer a shotgun over an AR15, but I dont hunt. Even though I have little use for the shotgun, I still have it and train with it. Although, I will say it doesnt see near as much rangetime as my ARs...

If the AR isnt doing anything for ya, no harm in selling. Just don't let it grow on you, because not only will you keep it, you will want more. I have four in different calibers, and want to build a .300BLK now...
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Old November 24, 2014, 12:10 AM   #12
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I shoot my AR much more than any of my shotguns. My HD gun is a SIG P229 with a laser/light module on it so really don't have much need for a HD shotgun; plus I haven't been hunting in quite a few years.
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Old November 24, 2014, 12:33 AM   #13
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Mossberg kits....

Id suggest the Mossberg 12ga kit if possible. You can get different barrels(18", rifled slug, trap). Then you can change the stocks too. Pistol grip & regular.
The Mossberg prices vary depending on the gun shop, vendor or what the kit includes.
One great 500 12ga system was the Mariner type(a protective nickel-grey color). It was about $500.00 but that was a decent price for the extra surface protection.
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Old November 24, 2014, 12:41 AM   #14
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It matters not, so much as which you use and are most familiar with.

In your case your Shotgun is head over heels the gun to go for in an emergency.

Your muscle memory is already trained from hunting with it.

You got no time to learn the manual of arms for an AR-15 you haven't used in 10 years during a home invasion!

(You can't call a time-out to read the owners manual in the middle of the night!)

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Old November 24, 2014, 12:56 AM   #15
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Given the OPs situation, I'd sell the AR to fund another shotgun.

Personally, I like both, and use both. But if I were allowed only one, i'd probably keep my Remington 48, modified with 7+1 mag tube, and poly choke barrel. It's just more versatile for a number of situations over the AR.

Still, I've got my AR as my HD gun.
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Old November 24, 2014, 01:32 AM   #16
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I love hunting. Deer and black bear get hunted hard every year, turkey, coyotes, and hogs get hunted when I have time.

I like carbines, a 7.62x39 AK could do all I need. And it has... So could a .300 Blackout AR, and hopefully this time next year, I'll get some tree time with one. And while I do prefer a 5.56 AR for HD though, much more than 12 gauge, I wouldn't want it to be my go-to all-purpose rifle. For that, give me just about anything BUT a 5.56 AR. So if it's between that or a 12 gauge, I'll take the 12 gauge every time, without thought. An 870 was the first gun I bought with my own money, and it's entirely possible that it would be the last one to leave my possession. Since, thankfully, I'm not stuck to one gun to do it all, I have a Savage 111 .30-06 that is my go-to hunting rifle, unless I just happen to want to take something else for fun.
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Old November 24, 2014, 02:15 AM   #17
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If you like the shotgun, fine... keep on using it.

But I've regretted selling a few guns. Not all that I've sold, but a few. Anymore, my standard rule is to only buy guns that I think I will definitely want to hang on to. If the urge to sell strikes me, I clean the gun up and put it away for a few months, then I revisit it.

The only thing worse than an impulse buy is an impulse sale. You can undo an impulse buy, but not a sale.
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Old November 24, 2014, 02:20 AM   #18
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I just can't stop building AR's. I'm on my 3rd one this year alone.
Every time I go to the range there is at least one AR that comes along.
I'm not a hunter so the only shotgun in my collection is my late fathers break action single shot.
I keep meaning to buy one so I can participate in 3gun but other things always seem to come up.
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Old November 24, 2014, 03:42 AM   #19
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I don't think I'd sell the AR even if you aren't currently using it. If that would change for some reason you won't have to start from scratch. If you have one shotgun I don't see selling another gun to buy another shotgun. If anything I'd just save and get the other shotgun if you really want one. That's pretty much how I do things. I hate to sell guns especially if I am selling the last example I have of a type (like a battle carbine).
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Old November 24, 2014, 05:00 AM   #20
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I'm the other way around. Twice I had no guns and had to start a collection. Both times my first purchase was a pump shotgun. But I just don't shoot them anymore and have not for several years. The AR has taken its place. Not selling the shotgun though. You sort of have to have one.
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Old November 24, 2014, 05:28 AM   #21
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I'm not a hunter (except for two legged - and I'm long out of that work) and I'm no range guy so for me it's all about where I live.. My first choice would always be the shotgun for pistol distances. If I lived out in the country the AR would get the nod.
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Old November 24, 2014, 05:48 AM   #22
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I agree with Tony k. It's time to take that AR out and show it some love.
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Old November 24, 2014, 04:13 PM   #23
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I have both and like both. Pressed to choose, I'd take the Mossberg 500 over my AR15 simply due to flexibility and constant availability of ammo. My AR is mostly for fun, and if I ever decide to take up hunting coyote some day. If I ever do decide to hunt deer, Illinois is shotgun only so that's another point for the shotgun. One plus for the AR for me is that it is easier than a shotgun for my wife to handle in an HD situation, so there is that. I prefer my 9mm for HD, but my shotgun would be #2 and AR #3.

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Old November 24, 2014, 04:33 PM   #24
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They are two completely different animals. AR-15's are fun, but necessary? I'm not sure, there are a lot of other options out there when you need a rifle. I have had various rifles in various actions and in various calibers. I have no real applicable use for the .223 caliber. I do have AR-15's though, but they are 6.8spc, a much more useful caliber. I don't know how invested you are in your AR15, how many mags, ammo, scopes, accessories, but you could convert to an alternative caliber like 6.8spc and have both a defensive and a viable deer hunting rifle. It isn't too complicated to do either and you wouldn't have to buy a brand new rifle.

Shotguns have their place though and fill a niche that no other long-gun can fill. They say the West was won by the Colt Peacemaker, but it was truly probably won with the shotgun. As a game getter, there's probably not a better option other than a .22lr rifle. A daily concern is putting food on the table, not fighting off bad guys. A shotgun would be much more useful in that role than an AR15.

I'd say keep the AR15 for plinking and fighting and find out what else you want, what do you want to do with the new rifle? Hunting? What kind of hunting? Coyotes, deer, bear, elk, prairie dogs? Any Long range or precision shooting? Once you figure that out, then you can look at what kind of action would be preferable, then you can look at the calibers. But I'd hang onto the AR15, there might be a day when you can't get them anymore and you'll be glad you have one already.

I have shotguns and AR's don't want to get rid of either, depending on what I want to do will determine which one I'll grab.
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Old November 24, 2014, 05:15 PM   #25
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Shotgun, more practical for my day to day needs as I don't believe in Zombie Apocalypse.
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