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Old September 30, 2008, 05:09 PM   #1
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Why Marlin discontinue the 9mm and .45ACP camp carbine ?

Why Marlin stop making this nifty little carbine ? . It is such great concept that one can arms with M1911A1 pistol and have long gun that use the same magazine for longer range. I have read that Marlin had problem with maintaining political correctness image of this camp carbine and avoid associated it with assault weapon etc. Is this one the reason that shooting public kind of boycott the camp carbine ? I want to get .45 ACP version but could not find one with reasonable price anymore.
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Old September 30, 2008, 05:11 PM   #2
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I thought it looked interesting too, but think they should have built it to take at least 12 round magazines.

They probably discontinued it due to sales.
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Old September 30, 2008, 06:00 PM   #3
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problem with maintaining political correctness.........avoid associated it with assault weapon etc........Is this one the reason that shooting public kind of boycott the camp carbine
they discontinued it due to poor sales, but not for above reasons. if the shooting public cared at all about "scary assault type weapons", the AR 15 wouldn't be so popular.

I agree with you though, it is a great little carbine
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Old September 30, 2008, 07:57 PM   #4
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Yup, the prices on the used ones do get pricey. If Springfield came out with a XD carbine that took their same hicap pistol mags id buy 2 tomorrow !
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Old September 30, 2008, 08:00 PM   #5
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"Could not find one with reasonable price".

I just looked on Guns America for the 9mm version, someone has a new one and wants $800!! Give me a break, that gun's value does not equal $800 to me.

Does anyone know the years of production on them? Says it has a 13 round mag which would be illegal in my state (10 round limit) if it's too new.
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Old September 30, 2008, 10:33 PM   #6
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See this thread.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthrea...=394395&page=2
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Old September 30, 2008, 11:10 PM   #7
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I bought two in 9mm a while back. Since they take S&W magazines you can get up to 20 round mags.

Good fun and politically correct in Calif. with the right mag.

Since I bought a couple of Beretta Storms I have one Marlin on consignment for $450 with no takers. Scope mounts included. So it looks as though you are not looking closely enough or there is a big difference between 9mm and 45 prices.
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Old September 30, 2008, 11:21 PM   #8
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How about an Olympic carbine? They don't have the Glock mag .45 out yet but I'm sure they're working on it. You can however get them in .40 and 9mm that take Glock mags.
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Old September 30, 2008, 11:34 PM   #9
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i too would like to have a springfield carbine that uses the xd mags... that might just be the last gun i would ever buy if they made it... but prolly not.. i think i got that illness...
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Old October 1, 2008, 11:53 AM   #10
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I'm sure Marlin discontinued them for the same reason Ruger stopped making their pistol caliber carbine - poor sales.
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Old October 1, 2008, 01:22 PM   #11
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Thumbs up I Got Mine!

Yeah, it's all a matter of economics.

If Marlin had made big money on it, they'd have made more - and would have fixed the problems like the buffer that didn't last 500 rounds for me
and a few other annoying things.

I'd never carry either my 9mm or 45 carbine into combat... but they're fun enough.

Why would a guy in ********** want one, though? You're not supposed to enjoy your constitutional rights there, are you?
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Old October 1, 2008, 03:23 PM   #12
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Neither gun was reliable , or durable, enough for anything beyond plinking, and maybe a little hunting. They weren't cheap in the value of the time, and hadn't the cachet of other, more war-like weapons.

They don't quite fit into a niche. LEO goes to .223 rifles, and home defense tends towards .223, 12 ga., or dedicated pistols. Taking advantage of the longer barrel also required loads that wouldn't be efficient in 4-5" barrels, either.

If you want to plink, the .22 lr is the best value.
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Old October 1, 2008, 03:27 PM   #13
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WHY? I've owned a couple I'll tell you why

because they weren't very good guns.

the plastic parts were of dubious quality

neither the 45 or 9mm had enough bolt mass to keep from breaking the stock as the bolt would slam against the reciever,and the bolt could slam the receiver because the tiny substandard buffer would disintegrate in a couple hundred rounds. All in all a throw together design with very little R&D or serious engineering put into it's development. Even a beat up hi-point carbine is on a whole nother level of reliability and durability from the most mint marlin camp carbine
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Old October 1, 2008, 03:55 PM   #14
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Thank you Krochus! You probably saved me a bunch of $ and anger. You just convinced me NOT to buy one, that I did not need anyway. I'll just put those $ toward another Sig. They are addictive!
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Old October 1, 2008, 04:33 PM   #15
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They sure look cool with a full suppressor though.



Wonder if I could get a can put on my Hi-Point .40 carbine?



It's ugly, but shoots great!

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Old October 1, 2008, 06:27 PM   #16
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9 & 45 camp carbines

I believe that Krochus is on the money. Back when thay first came out a number of PD's even looked at them, but felt there were issues of durability and reliability. The buffer was biggest culprit. There is a more durable one on the market that will even fit the .22wmr 922. That is a different cat but can also be pricey. Mine was very reliable and accurate.
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Old October 1, 2008, 07:55 PM   #17
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"You just convinced me NOT to buy one..."

+1, thanks for the heads up.

I've looked at a Hi-Point; I know it's a great gun, gets great reviews, and the owners love 'em, but there is just something about it that turns me off.

The search continues....

There's a smallbore 25 yard outdoor range 15 minutes from my house that lets LEOs shoot for free.

The range is limited to .22s, pistols, and rifles that use pistol cartridges, to include M-1 Carbine. I'd like to find an interesting, but reasonably priced, 9mm carbine that wouldn't choke on a diet of Wolf.
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Old October 1, 2008, 08:45 PM   #18
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The range is limited to .22s, pistols, and rifles that use pistol cartridges, to include M-1 Carbine. I'd like to find an interesting, but reasonably priced, 9mm carbine that wouldn't choke on a diet of Wolf.
Not trying to hijack the Marlin thread but...

My Sub-2000 shoots Wolf just fine, that and WWB which are my primary plinking rounds. Don't forget you can get them to take Glock 9mm mags which are very available and very reliable. For ~$300 they are well worth the cash IMO.
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Old October 2, 2008, 01:23 AM   #19
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Well, I guess I shouldn't miss it all that much then. I almost get one while stationed in Germany but I had other rifle on layaway and they won't let me cancel the layaway after the paper work . I thought I could get one when I rotated back to stateside but never got around to it .
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Old October 2, 2008, 02:02 AM   #20
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damn right on the high point carbines! when the .45 comes out i am the first one on the list!

the rugers were just too expensive. they didnt sell for that reason.
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Old October 2, 2008, 10:51 AM   #21
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[QUOTE]The range is limited to .22s, pistols, and rifles that use pistol cartridges, to include M-1 Carbine. I'd like to find an interesting, but reasonably priced, 9mm carbine that wouldn't choke on a diet of Wolf./QUOTE]

If you can find one of the Ruger carbines, they are built like a tank, and take just about anything you feed them in my experience.
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Old October 2, 2008, 12:49 PM   #22
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The PC-9 and PC-40 were built to handle regular shooting/qualifying, and patrol car stowage. They are heck for strong. So are the magazines.

I still own a Marlin Camp 9, and it is pretty accurate with ammo that it likes, but isn't nearly as durable as the PC series carbines.

The .30 M1 carbine was purpose built to operate a 110 grain bullet at 1950 fps. This is more powerful than a .357 magnum, has a 15 round capacity, and is also tough, accurate, and durable. After all, it's been in use for upwards of 60 years. Recent ammunition developments, such as those of Cor-Bon, have made the .little carbine ever more useful.
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Old October 2, 2008, 01:32 PM   #23
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I've looked at a Hi-Point; I know it's a great gun, gets great reviews, and the owners love 'em, but there is just something about it that turns me off.
I understand, they sho' be ugly, no doubt. But for a list price of $179.99 and a lifetime warranty, a HP carbine is a lotta fun to shoot! I'm going to buy a 995 9mm for my 11y.o. grandson, so he'll leave my .40 carbine alone. They're lots of fun, like riding a Moped....just don't let your friends see you with one.
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Old October 2, 2008, 03:18 PM   #24
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The problem with .30 carbine ammo is the price. The cheap carbine ammo is generally about 50% more than cheap 9mm. Also, I'm not sure I want to pump Wolf, etc. down a nice M-1 carbine.

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Old October 2, 2008, 03:29 PM   #25
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Storm

Baretta Storme in 9, 40 and 45acp uses pistol mags decent gun.
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