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Old August 9, 2007, 04:17 PM   #851
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Like I wasn't trying to drive the topic of marlin 336s off course.
Thanks, Deer Hunter. I was just funnin' with you. We cover so many topics in here that in some ways, it's hard to be off topic. But I know what you mean.

Arf, good points about availability of 1894C. I spent the better part of two weeks recently tracing one down. None of my local stores could get one, including Walmart, who had none in their main warehouses in New Orleans (of all places).

Marlin claims that they will restart 1894C production in August. We'll see.

I finally found one at Sportsman's Warehouse, but it had to be shipped in from back east. I'm going to pick it up within a couple of days.
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Starting in a few hours, I'll be off line for a through Monday taking care of a huge project. You folks have fun.

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Old August 10, 2007, 06:35 PM   #852
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scope

Hey Yong.,
I have a couple of pics on the thread on posts #428,429,430 if you want to see what the 2.5 power leupold scope looks like on the 336. I love this configuration and hope it works in the woods this year.
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YEA!!!!!
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Old August 11, 2007, 12:40 AM   #853
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I finally gave in and got myself a 1976 336 in 30-30 today.

WOW!

What a fun gun to shoot. I've been concentrating on revolver shooting for the last year so I need practice, but I it shot better than I thought it would at 25 yards. Still need work at 100 yards, but that is to be expected. My best 5-shot group at 25 yards measured 1-inch by 0.5 inch with 3 of the five shots touching. Not bad for the 36th through 40th rounds I ever put though the gun.

Paid $225 plus another $105 for Bushnell Banner 1-4x scope with Weaver base and rings. I'm pretty sure it is the RC model (walnut stocks, no checkering, full length tube, barrel band) but it just says 336 on the barrel. It has a few beauty marks including a scratch on the left side, but it's pretty nice for a 32 year old rifle. Barrel is clean and it cycles flawlessly. I like the look of my 1894C with Skinner sights, but my eyes see and shoot better with the scope. I like the little flip-up scope covers. I assume the scope was used, but it looks brand new and seems to work well.

I still lust after a stainless XLR but they are at least 3x the price. This one had been at my local gun shop for a while and I just couldn't ignore its whispers any longer... Definitely a keeper!
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Old August 11, 2007, 01:14 AM   #854
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hey electrode, i love the scope. is there anyway I can mount the scope closer towards the end of the buttstock or is the scope meant to be mounted forward?

I think I see the same sope on ebay, http://cgi.ebay.com/Leupold-Gold-Rin...QQcmdZViewItem

is it the same one? would this be ok to mount closer to the buttstock?
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Old August 11, 2007, 01:33 AM   #855
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Old August 11, 2007, 09:07 AM   #856
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Yong -
The one on Ebay is the model I made reference to earlier. It is made to be mounted in the normal position on the rifle. The one in Electrodes post is the "scout scope" version which is designed for forward mounting. The scopes are similiar in size but the eye relief is totally different.
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Old August 11, 2007, 10:07 AM   #857
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thanks flc, i think ill try to win it. hope no one on here bids on the scope.
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Old August 11, 2007, 10:33 AM   #858
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Hey Yong,
The scope I have has a 9 1/2" eye relief so it is ment to be mounted that far forward. This avoids any black eyes from the scope and allows for very quick target aquisistion. I am still practicing with it but the goal with a scout scope is to shoot with both eyes open looking thru the scope. This takes some practice since I have always shot with one eye closed.
The scope works either way-1 or 2 eye open. I do have the scope mounted forward but it can be moved back a bit for individual adjustments in eyesight.
Hope you enjoy the scope you pick out for your rifle.
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Old August 11, 2007, 10:34 AM   #859
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Hey Pine,
NICE looking guns.
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Old August 11, 2007, 03:25 PM   #860
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http://leupold.com/hunting-and-shoot...ms/std-mounts/

can anyone tell me if this will work with off the shelf scope rings? are the STD 1 piece mounts better? any advantages?
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Old August 12, 2007, 06:15 AM   #861
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336 Drop-in stocks

Hello,
Glad I found this thread. Please allow me to join the club. I was thinking about rehabilitating my early 80's 336 when I return on R&R this fall. The furniture is beat up (and was not particularly pretty to begin with) and I don't want to mess with trying to repair/refinish it. It's so ugly it has been relegated to the back of the gunsafe. It deserves better. Any ideas on where I can find drop-in (or very, very close to drop-in) stocks? I've been to sites such as Bob's and Boyd's (found via google) and they certainly have some options.
I'd rather not have to deal with a smith. However, my woodworking/fitting ability is dreadful, so drop-in is really the route to take. I prefer woods or laminates. Any leads beyond what I've found so far?
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Old August 13, 2007, 01:18 PM   #862
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Bowwave,
Boyd's gun stocks, http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/Browse...iecemarlin.asp
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Ramline, http://www.ram-line.com/rifle.aspx

Should be able to help.
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Old August 15, 2007, 12:49 AM   #863
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Just checking in after a few days away.

Glad to see that you guys didn't burn down the club house while I was gone.

Got my taller front sight from XS today for the GR.
They even included a postage paid envelope for sending back the original (that resulted in high groups).
That's what I call quality service.

Installed, but have not shot it yet. First impressions: I like it.
Not obnoxiously high, but I can see the difference.
I think it'll do the job. Testable hypothesis.

Also, I got my 1894C during my time off line.

First impressions: WOW.
336A now has a little brother.
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Old August 15, 2007, 09:18 AM   #864
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Careful Nem, shooting the 1894C can be quite addicting...

Any thoughts on sights for it yet? I had the XS sights on mine and they seemed perfectly suited for it.
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Old August 15, 2007, 09:32 AM   #865
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Where do I sign up for the 1894 club?

Had the 336 CB out yesterday testing some 150 gr bullets under a healthy dose of IMR 3031. Averaged 2529 fps (gitty-up!) but wasn't accurate in my rifle. It did better in a pard's 30-30.

I'm hoping to find a 150 gr load that shoots well. The bulk Remington bullets are the most inexpensive good bullet I'm aware of and I can load them for <$0.30 each paying retail prices. This 336 seems to like the 170's better though.

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Old August 15, 2007, 11:17 AM   #866
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Buying a Used 336 for Dummies. That would be the title of a post that would be very useful here I think. I know I'd like to hear 336 experts give a few pointers on what to be looking for in a used one - how to evaluate condition. In today's market, what can one expect to get for $250? for $200? for under $200?
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Old August 15, 2007, 08:22 PM   #867
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Woof, welcome. (At least I think you're new to the club; haven't updated the roster in a while ...).

That's an excellent idea about "used 336 for 'dummies' ". I'm not capable of it myself, but I'm betting others are, and hopefully they'll teach us all a few things.

Z_, I'm thinking ghost rings for the '894C. I may even see if the ones I have for the 336 will fit (I think someone said they will) since I'm not sure if I'm fully happy with them on the 336. (They're going to be backups anyway since I plan to scope it when I get the money. {New tires for the truck must come first ...})

But, I'm also tempted to try out a set of skinners on the 1894C. I really like the way they look, and with that screw out aperture, could be used for a variety of situations. I definitely positively will not scope it.

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This 336 seems to like the 170's better though.
You know, Mo, I think I've read (either in this or some other THR thread) that most 336's seem to like the 170's best. As soon as I get sighting set up better, I'm going to collect some better data about mine, too.

I think it'd also be fun to sponsor a "336 club" poll in rifle country to see what rnds by various manufacturers are favored in 336's. We did that over in the 642 club about rnds for J-frame snubbies, and gathered some interesting data.

We could make a list here in the club house of all the available rnds, then I can put them into a poll posted into rifle country. (I think the max number of items in a poll is 16.)

So, let's start listing .30-30 ammo. I suggest this format or something similar (for example): Federal PowerShok 150 gr soft point

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You know, I'm thinking it's about time we had one ...
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Old August 15, 2007, 09:10 PM   #868
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As for a 1894 club, kmrcstintn already started one here
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthrea...ighlight=1894c

which is alive and well. Not as many posts as the 642 or 336, but growing nicely!
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Old August 15, 2007, 09:24 PM   #869
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After what seemed like a very long wait, my Wild West Alaskan Guide showed up - I believe it's a Marlin 1895 receiver, wood and barrel - does that count?
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Old August 16, 2007, 08:59 AM   #870
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Current .30-30 Ammo choices:

Shortened 336C: Federal Powershock 170 gr soft point

336XLR: Hornady LeverEvolution 160 gr polymer tip

The reason the typical 336 likes 170 gr bullets might be because of the rifling. The 336 (other than the XLR) features micro-groove rifling with a 1 in 10 inch rate of twist, so it is able to stabilize the heavier bullet nicely.

The XLR features a slower 1 in 12 inch rate of twist and was designed to optimize performance with the 160 gr LE bullet. I wouldn't be surprised if 150 gr conventional bullets perform quite well when fired from the XLR.

At some point I would like to try the Federal 125 gr hollow point ammo in both my rifles to see which one shoots them best. I use 170 gr bullets in my shortened 336C since it's not going to break any velocity records anyway and it's sorta set up as an up-close hunting/protection against critters gun. Heavier bullets = better penetration. However, it would also make for a quite effective defensive arm with the 125 gr hollow points if it shoots them well. A shortened XLR might shoot them better with its slower rate of twist though.
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Old August 16, 2007, 01:54 PM   #871
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336SS Ltd before & after

Hello,

Earlier posts (#s 848,854,856) got me thinking. Now that I'm on part 2b and drawing my "old age pension", as my Mom used to call it, my eyes could stand a little assistance in the woods. I did a little change up by taking my XS sights off and putting on my favorite woods scope. It's mounted extra low on Burris rings and comes up on target like a dream. Great eye relief! While at it, I corrected the one thing I dislike about the 336 - the lever just hurts the back of my hand. I put on a DRC large loop lever and it feels perfect. It's not quite so "John Wayne" and I like the look better. Perfect drop-in although a little pricey.

I'm moving soon so it will probably be a few weeks before I can get to the range to sight it in, plus Dove season is coming up. When I get the chance I'll submit a range report.

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Old August 17, 2007, 05:29 AM   #872
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my favorite woods scope
flc, interesting scope.

i can't ID it.

which one?
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i'm listening to music right now that
epitomizes the feeling of a 336 w/ LE ammo.

Bang!

Turn it up...
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Old August 17, 2007, 08:20 AM   #873
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Nem -

It's an older Leupold M8 2.5x compact. The current model probably has better multicoating and is called the FXII 2.5x compact, I believe. It is a popular scope on dangerous game rifles. I think it's just about the right balance between power and compactness for a 18.5" lever rifle. Years ago I had one on a cut down .375 H&H which I used in black timber for elk with reduced power handloads. It comes up very quick.
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Old August 17, 2007, 08:29 AM   #874
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FLC,
That M8 looks great on there. I've got an older Burris 4X Compact on mine. The SS-LTD is such a sweet handling little gun.

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Old August 17, 2007, 11:26 AM   #875
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It's an older Leupold M8 2.5x compact.
Oh, very interesting.

But it's not a scout scope, right?

Hmmmmmm .... now that's an interesting option.

I want small, not something larger for this 336.
Larger centerfire scopse don't work on this for me.

But I'm not sure whether the scout scope is going to work for me.
I'm probably going to try one, but that could be an alternative ...

Hmmmm ...
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