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Old August 31, 2007, 05:17 PM   #926
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PB'Dude, I gotta agree with AB and Z: too much scope on a 336 just don't seem right.

Of course, there are those who say that ANY scope on a lever just don't seem right.
But of course, they're the ones with better eyes.

I'm pretty sure that I won't put a large, traditional scope on my 336. I am going to try (once my finances improve) one of the scout scopes that AB referred to: a Leupold 2.5X. Like he says, it mounts forward of the receiver (mostly), and doesn't work like a traditional scope so much as a set of ghost rings. It's really fast ... or so they say, I haven't tried one yet ... and adequate to the task at the ranges that most .30-30's are used. (Verdict still out about longer shots with the Hornady LE stuff.)

My concern about a scout scope is that they are theoretically supposed to be used with both eyes open,
a bit of a problem for me since I'm cross-eye dominant (right handed, left eyed). I'll just have to see.

If you do a search on this thread (see your tool bar, above and slightly to the right) for "scope",
you'll find some good information that will be useful to you in making a decision.

There are also more than a few threads in Rifle Country about scout scopes.

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Old August 31, 2007, 07:51 PM   #927
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Talking Finally posting pics

Hey ya'll,
This is me with the good ol' 336 and my oldest being raised right. And yes she has shot the levergun!
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Old August 31, 2007, 08:16 PM   #928
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Exclamation Responding to post #651 FINALLY!!!

Hey Five and Nem. ,
I finally got pics of the Skinner sights. Sorry it took a month and a half to get them.
These are the front sights.
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Old August 31, 2007, 08:19 PM   #929
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Here are the rear sights with the peep attachment installed and removed.
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Old August 31, 2007, 08:21 PM   #930
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Finally here is the side view of the rear sight.
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Old August 31, 2007, 08:54 PM   #931
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...my oldest being raised right.
Another A. Oakley in development.

E'trode, thanks for images.

One question: can you still effectively use the scope with the Skinners in place? No major vision blockage?

Skinner looks real nice.
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Old August 31, 2007, 09:25 PM   #932
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My concern about a scout scope is that they are theoretically supposed to be used with both eyes open,
a bit of a problem for me since I'm cross-eye dominant (right handed, left eyed). I'll just have to see.
Not a problem. The magnification changes the picture through the scope, and there's no crosshair in your left eye.

A shotgun can be an issue, since your dominant eye can "take over" at the wrong times, but with the scope, there's no way for that to happen. Even if your left eye dominates your mind's perception of the "big picture", the crosshair will be in the other eye and it will be clear where to aim.

Trust me, you gotta try it. And for big game, 2.5X is puh-lenty. The fine crosshair doesn't obscure the target like an iron sight, and the scope solves any low-light issues with irons. I can hit a pie plate with my 39 stock sights at sundown at 100+ yards offhand, and I have astigmatism. No reason I can't see a deer at 300 with a 2.5X scope, though I probably wouldn't take the shot without something to stabilize the rifle. Bottom line? The 2.5X IER scope is good for anything a .30-30 is good for, even the newfangled stuff.

A larger or higher-magnification scope, and standard short eye relief, are all hindrances more than helps. I'm sure electrode will concur. That looks like a Leupie gold stripe on that scout scope.
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Old August 31, 2007, 09:40 PM   #933
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blockage

Hey Nem,
No problem with blockage at all. The Skinners actually sit lower than the pics show them in relation to the scope.
It was tricky holding the rifle with one hand and the camera with the other hand to get clearer pics.
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Old August 31, 2007, 09:55 PM   #934
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i was thinking about what ur saying

and ur right i was thinking i want alot of zoom but i really dont need it just because the longest shot i am gonna take will be about 100-150 yards(no areas i hunt are bigger than that)


i was thinking now on a 1.5-4 and i was wondering if i would run into a problem putting a black powder scope on a centerfire?

do i have to find a center fire scope ? i cant find one that is a variable zoom and at such a low power for under 200 except a blackpowder or shotgun


edit:

cancel that i found one i like but i dont know about it

any one have experience with this

http://www.opticsplanet.net/bsa-opti...1545x32dt.html
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Old August 31, 2007, 09:57 PM   #935
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E'trode and AB, that sounds good. I'm encouraged.

Particularly glad to read AB's analysis of the scout scope, esp. for X-eye dom.

Sounds even more the direction I want to go.
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Old September 1, 2007, 02:03 AM   #936
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PB Dude, I still have a Leupold VXII 1-4X20 for sale. Send me a PM or email if you are interested.
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Old September 1, 2007, 02:41 AM   #937
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e'trode: The sights look great! That's exactly the kind of pictures I wanted to see. Thanks, dude!
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Old September 1, 2007, 04:01 PM   #938
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Five,
No problem dude.
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Old September 2, 2007, 04:31 PM   #939
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HAPPY BIRFDAY TO ME!!!!!


my dad got me a scope for my marlin and my hunting/fishing liscense

the scope i got is a bsa catseye 1.5-4.5x32

its a pretty nice scope for the price so far it was $89.99








edit and yes i know the stocks dont match i got a walnut one to replace teh old one and i havent gotten the walnut handgaurd yet
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Old September 2, 2007, 04:45 PM   #940
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Busted for feet showing in gun pic.
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Old September 2, 2007, 05:30 PM   #941
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Hey Paint.,
Where did the pistol grip on the levergun come from and that must be on hell of a kick with the pistol grip?
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Old September 2, 2007, 05:40 PM   #942
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First, Happy B'day, PB'Dude.

Great looking rifle. Nice job on repairing the stock. The deer aren't going to notice the difference in stock and fore end.

And BSA scopes get good words from folks I know who use them. Hope that one works well for you.

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Ah, those art critics. Never satisfied.
That's why photo editors were invented.
A little Photoshop goes a long way.

Just for fun & to silence the critics (hope you don't mind),
I cropped your best image to remove feet,
straightened it up a bit, and sharpened the outline.
(Just messing around before coffee ...)

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Old September 2, 2007, 06:34 PM   #943
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electrode

i purchased a walnut stock and had the old beach one that i tried to refinish and it didnt hold stain so i sawed it off for a photo-op
i never fired it and i really have no desire to lol

yeah u may c some little pink dots on the oak floors too .....i spilled a can of paint in the garage and the dog walked in it then ran inot the house lol


lol nem thanks
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Old September 6, 2007, 05:16 PM   #944
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336XLR stocks on a 336A??

I just bought a 336A and was wondering if anyone knows if the laminated 336XLR stocks can fit on it? Ive been searching for reasonably inexpensive stocks and I am coming up with nothing. I just dont care much for the "orange" looking birch stocks that are currently on it.

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Old September 6, 2007, 05:34 PM   #945
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Old September 6, 2007, 09:38 PM   #946
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sniper i live in nc i am a tarheal i think its some sort of a sin to have shoes (other than hunting boots) on here
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Old September 7, 2007, 02:06 AM   #947
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Electrode,

I am a new rifle owner and novice, so please forgive the question, but how hard are the skinner front and rear peep sites to install? cost? Where can you get them?

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Old September 7, 2007, 09:04 AM   #948
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Wisc, welcome.

Installation?

Ain't no thing.

A few simple tools.

Hang out.

We'll tell you how ...
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Old September 7, 2007, 09:27 PM   #949
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Hey Wisc.
Welcome, The Skinner sights are VERY EASY to install. The rear sight just screws into the existing taps at the rear of the rifle. The front sight is a little tricky in that it dovetails into the existing front sight mount. You can use you origional front sight if you want to. The front skinner sight is just slightly taller and I like it.

I removed the origional front base and CAREFULLY placed it in my bench vice since I only have two hands. Then I gently taped the origional front post out of the base with a tack hammer and a plastic punch I had. You could also use a wood dowel.
After you change the front sight you rescrew the base the the barrel. Keep the rear screw in the base when you tap the front sight in place. This makes reinstalation easier.

PM me if you have any other questions.

They are bought at skinnersights.com and a complete set costs around $50. Also Dr. Skinner will answer any email you send him.

Hope this helps.
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Old September 7, 2007, 10:54 PM   #950
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Now I like the look of those Skinner sights. Think I may buy some for my 336. Gotten close with the factory irons for a couple years now, and while they are servicable, I'm still not a big fan.
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