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Old November 21, 2007, 11:24 PM   #1176
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Dick's Sporting Goods just posted their Black Friday ads, 299.98 for a 336A w/scope, good Friday and Saturday (if you don't want to deal with the insanity endemic to those after thanksgiving sales). Experience has proven they will give rain checks for guns in case they're sold out.

Edit: And a box of Winchester or Remington Core-Lokt .30-30 is $4.98, limit 2.
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Old November 22, 2007, 05:24 AM   #1177
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299.98 for a 336A w/scope
Scope or not, don't walk: run.

(You can always sell the scope on ebay.)
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Old November 23, 2007, 11:42 PM   #1178
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Somewhere on the edge of too much gun for a deer

Is a 155 mm howitzer, er ... I mean, a .300 Win mag too much gun for whitetail deer?

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Old November 24, 2007, 12:07 AM   #1179
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I'm new to the 336 club, but here she is.
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Old November 24, 2007, 12:16 AM   #1180
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And fine she is.

Welcome, Mauser.
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Old November 24, 2007, 02:02 PM   #1181
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Dick's Sporting Goods just posted their Black Friday ads, 299.98 for a 336A w/scope, good Friday and Saturday (if you don't want to deal with the insanity endemic to those after thanksgiving sales). Experience has proven they will give rain checks for guns in case they're sold out.

Edit: And a box of Winchester or Remington Core-Lokt .30-30 is $4.98, limit 2.
The Dick's near me (Michigan) didn't have sales for the 336 or the 30-30 ammo. I went in planning to buy both...

They usually have the same prices nationwide. Did you see this in a newspaper flyer or anything? None of the flyers for my store had info for 30-30 stuff.
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Old November 24, 2007, 04:19 PM   #1182
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Shootin' buckshot in the 336

I've been loading up a bunch of 30-30 ammo for experimentation and load development in my Marlin 336's. One of the loads uses a 0 buckshot (.314", 46-49gr) pressed into a chamfered case with thumb pressure over 3 grains of Bullseye.

This configuration cycles through the magazine and shoots quite accurately out to 25 yards. The picture below is a five shot group, three of em in the same hole. They penetrate ~1" into wood, have zero recoil and are about as loud as a 22lr in a short barreled rifle.

The load could be useful for teaching new shooters, inexpensively and with no recoil penalty and I'm sure it would work well on garden pests.
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Old November 24, 2007, 04:28 PM   #1183
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Mo- What is the OAL of the cartridge? Have you done any velocity testing to see if they are shooting consistent speeds?

Sounds interesting.
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Old November 24, 2007, 04:33 PM   #1184
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2.210-2.225" ish. I just seat them until they look like they are half way in.

If I get the chance I'll run a few over the chronograph tomorrow.

UPDATE: Over the chronograph the 0 buckshot/bullseye load averaged 1010 fps. Hi 1048 fps, low 973. Accuracy is 1" at 25 yards. POI is <1" lower than where full power Jacketed bullets print at the same distance.

Another shooter even asked me what kind of 22 I was shooting...

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Old November 24, 2007, 05:20 PM   #1185
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Ok, so I don't really have the hours to wade through 47 or so pages (ever think about splitting this into multiple threads, linked to from one master thread?) so forgive me if this one's been answered before.

I'm looking at a Marlin/Glenfield Model 30A, .30-30 Winchester which the seller claims is the same as a 336. It's pre-cross tang safety, with a factory scope mounted. Sounds a bit used but supposedly in good shape. Guy wants $200.

So here are my questions. Is this indeed the same as a 336? Is that a good price? Would I be able to safely use modern loadings, and/or have it rebored to .30-30 AI when I get set up to hand load for it? What should I do to inspect it? I know the basics (check the bore, insure function etc) but I'm new to the lever game and figured ya'll would be able to shed some light on things to look for.

Thanks for the help guys.
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Old November 24, 2007, 05:30 PM   #1186
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Marlin/Glenfield 30A

Both the model 30A and the model 3000 are part of the Marlin 336 family.

Yes, it's pre-crossbolt safety.

If it's in good condition, $200 is a fair price -- better than fair if you hate crossbolt safeties.

The other questions in your post I can't really address.

I'll wait for one of the more knowledgeable guys.

Also try asking that re-bore question in Gunsmithing.

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Old November 24, 2007, 06:01 PM   #1187
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If it's in good condition, $200 is a fair price -- better than fair if you hate crossbolt safeties.
I despise em on lever guns, hence my interest in this. Does anyone know if any of the stainless models were pre-safety? I'm in WA state so I imagine hunting will involve lots of moisture getting on my poor rifle.
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Old November 24, 2007, 11:27 PM   #1188
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End result $225.00 for a 336a with OK-ish BSA "Huntsman" 3-9x50 scope on Weaver "see through" rings. The scope's nice, certainly better than what comes with the 336a package deal, but it's no Nikon. It does have target turrets which is a nice bonus. It does have the crossbolt safety. The rifle itself looks like it's had maybe fifty rounds through it tops and never cleaned. It's in usual used-gun condition, the stock's got some dings and scratches (just makes it good for refinishing fodder) and a few small spots of surface rust that some 0000 steel wool took right out. The only thing I don't like about the stock is the fact that it's checkered, it's going to make stripping and refinishing it an absolute pain. Bore is bright and shiny after cleaning, I haven't done a field or detail strip yet but I don't think it's going to be necessary at this stage.

It looks like there are dummy screws in the side of the receiver for a peep sight, does anyone have any idea what sort of sight will fit it? I figure since it's got the see through rings I might put a peep sight on as well.

Ended up picking up a about 80 rounds of 170 grain 30-30, 40 each of Winchester SuperX and Power-Lock, at about 8 dollars a box after rebate.

If anyone cares Marlins in .35 Rem. seem to be commanding a premium for some reason, I turned a few down since I can't get ammo at Wal-Mart. It's silly but it speaks volumes about the general availability of the round. I'll work up to one some day once I'm a bit more confident at my ability to reload anything other than pistol cartridges.
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Old November 25, 2007, 01:35 AM   #1189
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Balog, I'm not sure if these come in stainless but they do solve the cross bolt safety issue. I have a friend with the same bias and he'll buy new Marlins now because of the CBS replacement.

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/ta...olt_safety.htm

Also, I'm a wetsider too. I have both stainless and blued Marlins. The blued holds up very well to our weather. No moss growing on my rifle yet I think sweat is harder on rifles than rain.
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Old November 25, 2007, 02:43 AM   #1190
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Ain't that the truth. During boot we spent hours cleaning our 16's, and had guys periodically wipe em down with a clp rag during the night. Damn things still rusted like it was cool. Of course the salty air probably didn't help.

So what're some good refinishes for the blued versions? I'm not looking for pretty, just tough. Would just whacking it with a can of Krylon work?
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Old November 25, 2007, 04:58 AM   #1191
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HooooEEEEEEE! Just finished all 48 pages of this thread!

I have a 336C .35 Rem made in 2004. It's a beautiful gun. I have had 2 30-30's in the past but traded them for other various firearms. I have a severe hankering for another one. I'll probably get one come Christmas time, and I'll probably get a C. I will keep this one!

The scout scope concept is fascinating. I'll have to chek into that further.
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Old November 25, 2007, 10:49 AM   #1192
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336th post

I just had to make my 336th THR post in the 336 Club.

I'm taking one of my 336's to the range today to celebrate!
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Old November 25, 2007, 11:13 PM   #1193
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Old November 26, 2007, 05:34 PM   #1194
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336rc

(Also posted on Marlin Owner's Forum)

I found a 336RC 30/30 with a serial number starting with AA (1965 right?) in absolutely great condition at a pawn shop for $275.00. The only problem I saw was that it was missing the Marlin bullseye. Can you order a new bullseye? I didnt notice swivel studs on the stock either. Did they put swivel studs on 336RCs in '65?

Any pertinent info y'all could point me to in regards to the RC would be appreciated.

I'm excited about this gun! My beautiful wife told me to get it when the holiday money comes in this weekend! I hope it's still there when Friday rolls around!
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Old November 26, 2007, 06:18 PM   #1195
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I'm still holding out for an old 336 ADL with the 24" barrel in 30-30 and one in .35. No joy so far but I have seen some on the auction sites; I just prefer face to face so I can see what I am buying.
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Old November 26, 2007, 11:23 PM   #1196
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Here's a couple pictures of my .35 Rem 336C made in 2004. (I hope this works!)



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Old November 27, 2007, 12:37 AM   #1197
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I'm still holding out for an old 336 ADL with the 24" barrel in 30-30 and one in .35. No joy so far but I have seen some on the auction sites; I just prefer face to face so I can see what I am buying.
If you don't mind having to pay for shipping the item back if you're not satisfied any vendor who's worth dealing with should give you an inspection period.
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Old November 27, 2007, 06:32 PM   #1198
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Yep, I know but to me part of the fun is the hunt for the rifle. I kind of like the going around looking; almost as much as the shootin' after the buyin'
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Old November 27, 2007, 07:42 PM   #1199
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I have a 336C in .35 Rem on the way from Buds. It will probably not arrive before the end of deer season here, since I didn't get on the stick fast enough and the Thanksgiving holiday intervened, but what can a fella do. However, I keenly await its arrival.
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Old November 29, 2007, 03:48 PM   #1200
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I would like to remove and lighten the finger lever plunger on my 336, and tried last night to push the retaining pin out with a small hammer and thin nail: no luck. flattened the nail nose. do I just need better tools and more force, or is there a trick to it?
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